N刺客玖INE

nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine 玖 nine jiǔ jiǔ nine jiǔ Jiǔ 小玖 nine killer nine jiǔ

[carnivore-cannible]

Get put into a box idiot.

[okieayla]

finding similarities between characters across media is super fun (if you couldnt tell by a few of my last posts) but this one takes the cake

Not just the colors but their circumstances too? (And im basing nezha and ao bing based off of the movie) nezha and ao bing meeting over saving a girl from a sea monster, mobai saving jasmine from a dragon, the list goes on. Their relationship looked down on because nezha is a cursed demon and ao bing is a DRAGON prince? Mo lang hated due to the blood demon and Bai qi becoming king? I would have assumed they were based off the former. The personalities match up really good as well LMAO

both duos are eventually forced to clash due to manipulation, (shen gongbao and aite probably) and coincidentally, both duos get accused of being "brothers" instead of having an (implied??) relationship. Ao bing is burdened with the dragon clan while Bai qi is burdened to Stan, while Nezha and ML are outlawed and feared due to their powers.

both present a super similar emotional core in having a soulmate (platonic or not) who only understands them. One of the points of Nezha is that destiny does not define who you are, and as bwtd continues to be written i feel itll follow the same path. The greatest struggles in both franchises come from expectations beyond the characters control, instead of a personal hatred between the two :,,)

just something fun i wanted to talk about, i havent seen this be brought up before but please correct me if im wrong

[ilovenines7]

i didn’t get this before but now i GET ITTTTT

[soujiroh-orz]

（この辺の関係性が）なんとかなれーっ！

[okieayla]

Unfortunately i've been seeing nines character get taken horribly out of context, same situation with killer sevens character all over again, where people saw he was quiet and keeps to himself and immediately assume hes the "bad boy with no good emotions" trope.

Nine is an incredibly skilled character despite being the youngest shadow killer, he has a fun personality and design but the only things I tend to see of him are in ooc ship dynamics ESPECIALLY with 13, and unwarranted hate.

Are we forgetting that he probably grew up isolated from the rest of the world in order to become an assassin? I dont really see anything we actually know about him ever get incorporated into his character. I understand he was only here for like one episode but that doesn't make it impossible to really understand who he is, you just gotta try harder.

And coming back to the dynamics, the things I see of him is disgusting, the assumptions made of him just because hes tan is extremely racist and not only that i have seen more pale art of nine then him in his actual skintone. "Let's make nine huge and domineering next to a tiny thirteen because of his appearance!" Maybe dont watch the show with your eyes glued shut next time

I also genuinely dislike when people strictly judge characters off of powerscaling. I recently had a little debate with somebody because I questioned them on why they hated nine and the only things they really told me were that it's because he "appeared out of nowhere," got his ass beat by a weakened seven, and hes annoying? Theres a LOT I could say about this.

Nine is young, this is his first mission against the previous strongest killer in the country. If you only judge nine on his feats, you are never going to actually understand his character. I also don't really think he had enough screentime for people to solidly hate his guts other than the fact he lost a fight, (which, he didnt. Hes still alive and seven is passed out.) I also don't find him annoying at all and sure you can dislike him for that but I beg of people to please look deeper into his character. God forbid a character be confident and funny. I have another post further back of my interpretation of his uniform being similar to sevens too, i hope it did justice to his past/character LOL

Its a shame we're given this interesting character who not only has an intriguing past, but can also wield the TDD because his powers apparently originate the same as sevens? We're given all this but people cannot look past the fact that he fits into their fetishy ship dynamics or the fact he lost a fight against the STRONGEST CHARACTER IN THE SHOW (So did everyone else??) And dont act like nine was losing horribly either, seven had to get extra creative with him

they better go into FULL DETAIL abt this next season

Obviously I'm not saying you can't dislike him, because it's possible! I just beg you have actual reasoning for it other than powerscaling ;). My whole argument here is that I wish people would evaluate nines character better. Hes one of my favorites and im excited to see whats in store for season 6!

[ilovenines7]

Im back because I’m never going to truly be done with this topic.

Since we’re here talking, I have a specific hatred for people who say “oh blah blah prime Seven would have-“ because YOU ARE WRONG. First of all, what the hell do you mean by “prime Seven”? You mean Seven when he was a shadow killer? When he was a TEENAGER???? Are y’all even thinking straight?

In the first place, what list of feats does killer Seven even have?? He is the biggest rumor farmer in history as far as I’m concerned because all I can think of besides other people SAYING he did this or that is him doing pretty well against redtooth before LOSING because he didn’t have a magic sword and him fighting against a bunch of background characters for 15 minutes before he ate shit because of the girl in white. Yes he’s still implied to be really super duper strong and he almost definitely is, but there’s no reason to think he’s THAT much stronger than our current Seven by any means.

No, Seven isn’t “nerfed” by his scissors compared to the TDD. Did we not all see the part where he said “there’s more than one way to solve the puzzle” ? The weapon doesn’t make the fighter. The point is that Seven with his scissors can still be equally terrifying because of how he uses them! It’s such a simple plot that it makes ME feel insane seeing how many people just DID NOT GET IT?

Even if killer Seven was all that he’s cracked up to be, there’s no reason to think that it was Seven’s “prime”. Logically, he’s still growing as a fighter and person and his prime isn’t even here yet. By calling 15-19 years old his prime you’re basically saying he peaked in highschool. It’s NOT a good look.

Something about this show that I really respect is the fact that the fights between martial artists don’t feel like they’re trying to be a game of hard numbers. There’s no direct “power levels” to qi/internal force (for example Seven’s qi isn’t labeled some stupid shit like level 777 SSSR++). Since it’s not a harshly defined concept, it both feels more like magic and reads as more realistic to me at the same time because actual fights are so much more complex than “my aura is bigger so i win”. That’s why I sometimes really can’t stand powerscalers. You won’t even try to analyze the fight that you claim to care about so much? Come on man…

Back to the original point, what a lot of people can’t seem to understand is that Nine didn’t lose because he was weak or even weaker than Seven. In fights between people of comparable strengths, it isn’t only about your own fighting abilities or strength anymore. It’s also about strategy, predicting how your opponent will act so that you can plan accordingly. In other words, it requires an understanding of your opponent’s psychology and fighting style. Nine thought he understood Seven, but the Seven that existed in his mind was not real to begin with. He failed to predict what Seven would do, which caused him to lose composure.

Seven won that fight in my opinion. It exhausted him, but if Nine wasn’t suicidal enough to get back up while running on pure hatred and fumes then he would have been down for the count. But what everyone needs to understand is WHY he won. In the end, Seven came out on top because of his life experience and the fact that he became more accepting to other viewpoints (represented by how he incorporates the techniques of others into his style), which is something Nine could not have predicted. Nine’s flaw is that he thinks too linearly and is uncomfortable with change in his routines. Not only do I find all of that really interesting, I also think it’s really impressive that Seven managed to get that win. Which is why I’m so angry when his “fans” reduce the fight and its message down so much. You’re literally losing all of that parts that make it impressive writing wise!

[okieayla]

Unfortunately i've been seeing nines character get taken horribly out of context, same situation with killer sevens character all over again, where people saw he was quiet and keeps to himself and immediately assume hes the "bad boy with no good emotions" trope.

Nine is an incredibly skilled character despite being the youngest shadow killer, he has a fun personality and design but the only things I tend to see of him are in ooc ship dynamics ESPECIALLY with 13, and unwarranted hate.

Are we forgetting that he probably grew up isolated from the rest of the world in order to become an assassin? I dont really see anything we actually know about him ever get incorporated into his character. I understand he was only here for like one episode but that doesn't make it impossible to really understand who he is, you just gotta try harder.

And coming back to the dynamics, the things I see of him is disgusting, the assumptions made of him just because hes tan is extremely racist and not only that i have seen more pale art of nine then him in his actual skintone. "Let's make nine huge and domineering next to a tiny thirteen because of his appearance!" Maybe dont watch the show with your eyes glued shut next time

I also genuinely dislike when people strictly judge characters off of powerscaling. I recently had a little debate with somebody because I questioned them on why they hated nine and the only things they really told me were that it's because he "appeared out of nowhere," got his ass beat by a weakened seven, and hes annoying? Theres a LOT I could say about this.

Nine is young, this is his first mission against the previous strongest killer in the country. If you only judge nine on his feats, you are never going to actually understand his character. I also don't really think he had enough screentime for people to solidly hate his guts other than the fact he lost a fight, (which, he didnt. Hes still alive and seven is passed out.) I also don't find him annoying at all and sure you can dislike him for that but I beg of people to please look deeper into his character. God forbid a character be confident and funny. I have another post further back of my interpretation of his uniform being similar to sevens too, i hope it did justice to his past/character LOL

Its a shame we're given this interesting character who not only has an intriguing past, but can also wield the TDD because his powers apparently originate the same as sevens? We're given all this but people cannot look past the fact that he fits into their fetishy ship dynamics or the fact he lost a fight against the STRONGEST CHARACTER IN THE SHOW (So did everyone else??) And dont act like nine was losing horribly either, seven had to get extra creative with him

they better go into FULL DETAIL abt this next season

Obviously I'm not saying you can't dislike him, because it's possible! I just beg you have actual reasoning for it other than powerscaling ;). My whole argument here is that I wish people would evaluate nines character better. Hes one of my favorites and im excited to see whats in store for season 6!

[ilovenines7]

oh buddy dont get me STARTED

[bonnieisaway]

any theories/predictions for the upcoming movie? I've got no ideas, especially if this is what follows season 5

In the S7 discord like five years ago we got this message translating some stuff that the director had said in a livestream. This is the official discord (I literally joined it off the link at the end credits in the show) and most of it has been right so far so I've got no reason to doubt it. Since they said that the "movie and show don't overlap," my assumption is that it's gonna be about the past. Either about Seven's past, Nine's creation, more about Seven and the Girl in White, or Thirteen + Eleven's childhood, my assumption is generally it's gonna expand on SOMEONE's past

[ilovenines7]

dude i want this movie to be about girl in white so bad that i am willing to sacrifice any sort of nine appearance ok THIS HAS TO BE FOR HER… nine is still alive so he still has a chance for development in the show but if giw is dead then she really doesn’t have a better opportunity than this to get developed further

besides that we need seven backstory badly

[bonnieisaway]

its conflicting cause i think it's kind of the point that she's a nothing character at the moment but also i would love to know more about her. I think it's cool that she doesn't even have a name. The whole point was that she was just another pawn in the game, and her use was over with when Seven "died"

But I do really wanna know more about her. I have always, always theorized that giw is from the Heaven Lily sect similar to Huilian and I would LOVE to either get that confirmed or denied. Cause who else would be better to try and trick someone to falling in love with them than a heaven lily student? Im conflicted but hopeful

[okieayla]

Seven and Thirteen flaws

I RAMBLE A LOOOT AND REPEAT MYSELF but its super long so i dont wanna fix everything

I was talking to my friend about seven and thirteens relationship, and she was giving me the reasons she wasn't entirely fond with it

Seven sort of just kisses her in season 1

There isnt a duration of time where Seven can recognize how he feels towards her, he kind of just begins liking her because she's pretty

Seven is very forgiving and is never upset with her for how she treats him early on

It can still feel a bit one sided and rushed

I agree with a lot of these things, and my only excuse would be that because the first season was more comedic, thirteen was introduced to be a funny love interest and seven is lovestruck for giggles. This sort of stumped them from the start. Even when the tone shifts later, it feels rushed because there is no duration we get between them where they can grow to like each other. Later seasons kind of fix this because it becomes serious, but the problem is that their dynamic grows WHEN seven already likes her, and thirteen begins liking him. I'm glad the writing progresses later on for their relationship, but it's still rushed when seven already instantly liked her when he saw her.  The only development from here on out is the two getting to know each other even more after the fact. Theres a lot of weight behind their actions from this development, but I do agree it could be conveyed better. It's good that seven developed from liking her for being pretty to admiring her skills as an assassin, but it would have been better if he acknowledged these things before falling head over heels. 

I acknowledge that seven is extremely kind and overly forgiving, but I agree that it also would have been nice for him to have some sort of resolve with thirteen. Ive ranted earlier on why i believe seven was so chill when she stabbed him, and these evaluations I do are why I am able to enjoy the ship so much, because I enjoy finding reasoning behind this kind of stuff. Because the show doesn't exactly convey this stuff thoroughly, I understand why it could be easy to dislike them, and why their relationship could appear rushed. I think there could have been some instances where he was just a little upset and wary of thirteen. Im content with the steps taken to fix this, such as seven and thirteen protecting eachother, fighting together, and etc because it gives more reason on why they would like eachother, but I would also understand if this didn't sway people, because the most important part of a romance development is the duration taken to get to this stage. This development happens when seven already likes her, but it would be a lot better if he had this kind of development before liking her, because it could come across as seven only doing these things for her because he has a crush. This growth is good on thirteens part because these actions taken or what slowly caused her to like seven, but for seven he's been doing this from the start, seemingly for no reason. (I understand he protects her follows her etc for deeper reasoning, but it isnt exactly conveyed in the show unless you search deeper.)

One of the problems I had myself is that I thought they would fix the problem of seven immediately being lovestruck in season 4, Seven tells thirteen he is dangerous to be around, but he never acts upon these words. (Besides running away from the campfire for like 30 minutes.) He still follows her blindly and stays around her despite even becoming wanted in season 5. I could understand all this due to sevens personality and because he is known to be stubborn, but i still understand why people would find this dumb.

I think a way this could have been fixed is if seven acted on the knowledge he is being hunted. Thirteen would grow distant due to needing to save green phoenix and fulfilling his mission, and instead of seven following her in order to help her, he casts aside his feelings for a bit to protect her (because the whole country is after him now.) I think this would have paved a way earlier on if he did distance himself in seasons 4-5  after fighting blackbird for the two to get a proper duration of time to realize they kind of need each other. If this had happened, it'd give way in the newer seasons for them to eventually spark and new flame with sevens current character development instead, which i think would be super cool (this is very hard to explain but basically because sevens life is becoming more serious, hes sort of more cold and not as careless as he was in season 1. With this newer personality of his it'd make interactions with he and thirteen more meaningful than in season 1, and itd kind of be a fresh start for them i guess??) i do believe in seasons 6-7 they'll still develop in this way of better interactions because seven is a lot more mature now, just without a duration of seven temporarily losing feelings. (THIS IS JUST MY THEORY BTWWW just something i brought up to my friend on how they could figure out a way for it to be less rushed) The only reason i bring this up is because when i spoke about it with my friend, her biggest issue is not the current development they get, but how it isnt all that meaningful to her because seven had only begun liking her for being pretty.

I feel like a good example is when Seven tells thirteen in season 3, "Just go, you don't have to protect me, we barely know each other." This would have been really good if A: this conversation happened in season 1 before he liked her, or B: He acted upon these words in seasons 3-4 and distanced himself a bit?? If that makes sense. If they got a bit of distance on behalf of seven in season 5 the development in 6-7 could be sky rocketing but Im aware it'd also be a little dumb because its kind of like a refresh to their relationship in the middle of the series, but i also think itd be good development for it being "rushed"

A cool aspect of seven growing as a character would be for him to realize hes dangerous to be around and build some walls, instead of the cycle of them finding eachother in battle and protecting eachother, just to separate again afterwards, and then he and thirteen could slowly and properly make their way back towards eachother (this is what i wished had happened because theres no time for this anymore HAHA)

As the show gets more serious i hope they develop them more, but its kind of hard to not make it seemed rushed when they already like each other, i think they tried to fix it with 13 running away to save green phoenix, but even then it would have been a nice chance to have seven evaluate his feelings as his life becomes more hectic. The biggest issue I have is the constant cycle of meeting, protecting each other, then leaving.

i feel like seven x thirteen is a really big interpretation thing!! I personally dont think its very rushed because they had time to develop a lot in seasons 2-5.

[leksa19]

Like father, like son.

[ilovenines7]

Or as the theories say, like dubiously genetically connected donor, like offspring

[ooppo]

I must put them in a blender together and turn it on

[okieayla]

finding similarities between characters across media is super fun (if you couldnt tell by a few of my last posts) but this one takes the cake

Not just the colors but their circumstances too? (And im basing nezha and ao bing based off of the movie) nezha and ao bing meeting over saving a girl from a sea monster, mobai saving jasmine from a dragon, the list goes on. Their relationship looked down on because nezha is a cursed demon and ao bing is a DRAGON prince? Mo lang hated due to the blood demon and Bai qi becoming king? I would have assumed they were based off the former. The personalities match up really good as well LMAO

both duos are eventually forced to clash due to manipulation, (shen gongbao and aite probably) and coincidentally, both duos get accused of being "brothers" instead of having an (implied??) relationship. Ao bing is burdened with the dragon clan while Bai qi is burdened to Stan, while Nezha and ML are outlawed and feared due to their powers.

both present a super similar emotional core in having a soulmate (platonic or not) who only understands them. One of the points of Nezha is that destiny does not define who you are, and as bwtd continues to be written i feel itll follow the same path. The greatest struggles in both franchises come from expectations beyond the characters control, instead of a personal hatred between the two :,,)

just something fun i wanted to talk about, i havent seen this be brought up before but please correct me if im wrong

[ilovenines7]

this is actually really interesting and i wonder if its a result of common tropes in chinese media or childrens stories hmmmm

[orcol]

Don't y'all.. at least *kinda* see it..? 😭

[ilovenines7]

The worst part of this is that if you accuse one of copying im pretty sure s7 came AFTER

[okieayla]

guys thirteen isnt a tsundere she just has priorities okay😔😔

[ilovenines7]

first stage is denial

[dontfeedmeaftermidnight]

A happy Qing Wa!

Have a quick, happy Qing Wa and read Tides of Time on AO3!!

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

[bonnieisaway]

any theories/predictions for the upcoming movie? I've got no ideas, especially if this is what follows season 5

In the S7 discord like five years ago we got this message translating some stuff that the director had said in a livestream. This is the official discord (I literally joined it off the link at the end credits in the show) and most of it has been right so far so I've got no reason to doubt it. Since they said that the "movie and show don't overlap," my assumption is that it's gonna be about the past. Either about Seven's past, Nine's creation, more about Seven and the Girl in White, or Thirteen + Eleven's childhood, my assumption is generally it's gonna expand on SOMEONE's past

[ilovenines7]

dude i want this movie to be about girl in white so bad that i am willing to sacrifice any sort of nine appearance ok THIS HAS TO BE FOR HER… nine is still alive so he still has a chance for development in the show but if giw is dead then she really doesn’t have a better opportunity than this to get developed further

besides that we need seven backstory badly

[xmothbrothx]

been a while since I've drawn any humans

Also have some headcanons regarding Seven's Qi

[dontfeedmeaftermidnight]

Liu Xing!!

Hehehhe here's Qing Wa's boyfriend, Liu Xing! Isn't he cute?

Color guide!

[lathya]

I think Scissor Seven might be one of my favorite shows.

It's kind of simple and dorky, but it balances it's weirdness with interesting dramatic moments. The art style is fun and the characters are all very endearing in their own ways.