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At this point I'm genuinely willing to make a deal with satan. So, if you're out there, Scott Goldsmith...
v!Owen as the Vampires Armand on his apology tour… I’m so funny
au where Cleo's mother lives and either Cleo gets turned later in life (the likelier outcome) or we get pensioner Cleo (why do men only get to grow old, I demand variety) and either way, you get a stabler Cleo, but still one who has been surrounded by vampires their whole life and their social skills are slightly skewed
@jackdaw-sprite you see the vision :D Cleo's mother laughs herself hoarse in a rare loss of composure when she hears Morcant has inherited an 11yo
I feel like Cleo & Abolish's relationship could go one of two ways:
Awkward "our adopted parents are friends so we have to play nice" energy where they keep getting left in each other's presence because "well, they're both human, they'll find things in common" while the "grown-ups" talk
60/70 year old Cleo gets along far too well with this child, honorary big cousin energy, and now the two are a menace
But there are also bad dreams...
hey. anybody else think about the canonical kidnapping and torture ? i don’t think fwhip leaves her side for a week after that (+ gem design notes under the cut
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LOLL okay one more for you then. i think they are both so bipolar disorder and sometimes their episodes sync #twinthings
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Something that I'd forgotten and rediscovered on re-watching Owen's episode 1: he doesn't actually know how long he was buried. He finds out when Sausage says the last massacre was 200 years prior, and from that he assumes he's been stewing in that hole for 200 years.
But...you know how sometimes when you're struggling to sleep, you'll end up sleeping for a while and then wake up and the only reason you know time's passed is because it was 12:30 and now it's 1:30?
And you know how Oakhurst apparently has a lot of buried vampires that Cleo and Pearl work on recovering and/or staking, post-canon? Who are definitely not conscious, even if vampires can't sleep?
What I'm saying is: there's an outside chance Owen was buried for way longer than 200 years and was just properly unconscious through the re-building and destruction of Oakhurst, and doesn't know. He was responsible for the massacre 400 (or more deeply into crack territory, 800 or 1000) years ago.
Does this work with any of Louis' clothes still being intact? Not really. But honestly clothes being preserved for 200 years without regular care in a controlled environment is odd in the first place. We can handwave it as magic.
???whatever . go my weird dynamic thoughts
This post, bringing up how Doc acted like Owen did (rooftop perching, stewing over his monstrous nature) once Owen turned him, has once again brought me to the crack idea that Louis did that, too. Especially now that we know he was also trying to Atone.
Oakhurst, 203 years prior to canon:
Cobbler: My god! There's a man on that roof! Baker, not even glancing up: yeah the mayor likes that spot Cobbler: That's the mayor? Baker: Yep. Bit odd, that one. Good at resolving disputes though. Damn fair. You want two loaves?
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There's an exchange I've mentioned on here before from a bit after Shelby's turning. Pyro and Scott have left, and it's just them for a few final moments, and Shelby pauses and says this:
Shelby: I haven't forgiven you yet! Owen: I don't doubt you will. Shelby leaves. Owen: Eventually, they all do.
There's a lot I could go into here, and frankly I don't know that canon even bears Owen's view out. A lot of vampires end up wanting to stay vampires, but there's tension in a lot of the sire-fledgling relationships. But let's pretend Owen's right, and fledglings do eventually forgive their sires for turns, no matter how violent.
Because this is a really nice explanation for why Abolish doesn't want to get turned, and why he would (as stated by word of god) immediately prioritize killing any vampire who turned him against his will.
If he knows that vampirism will warp you like this, will shift your loyalties no matter how hard you try to keep that from happening?
Even if it's just (just!) forgiving the person who violently attacked you to the point of death, that's a division of loyalty that could get the people he works with killed: if he gets turned nonconsensually and doesn't kill them immediately, he'll decide the person who turned him is Literally Nice and let them go even though they have a proven record of eating people.
And then they will go on eating people, after he said they were Literally Nice, and then his coworkers will be dead or turned because he got turned. Not a polite thing to let happen to your coworkers. I imagine it would make water cooler conversations difficult, if they were not also getting mind-warped into being fine with it.
And it's not like he can say that out loud! He can't go 'I'm not getting turned, that makes you critically emotionally compromised over the person who turned you and my Organization will lose people if that happens to me.' to a growing group of people who are all subject to that effect! They're not going to take that well! That's going to destabilize a situation that's already a house of cards!
(AND this is assuming he wouldn't simply be considered a liability to the Organization and taken care of)
This could also be why he's reasonably okay with the turn and cure plan. It's not about leaving Oakhurst human, not really. Human is a nice to have. It's about leaving Oakhurst without a living sire. And that's why he pushes Doc's execution along once Martyn and Ren are dead. Yeah, Doc turned him consensually, but it was with the condition of Doc's death, and Doc's death was an important condition. And the longer they all wait, the more the emotional tie, the forgiveness, has a chance to work its way into him and make him decide to keep Doc alive.
And Doc...is not exactly stable.
Abolish isn't (as much of) a risk to his coworkers if his sire is dead. His first loyalty is to the people he actually cares about, the members of his organization. Therefore, any vampire who attacked and turned him would've needed to die. And in the end, Doc needed to, too.
You know, if there were signs of this happening, I do wonder if Doc would have taken up Cleo's offer to be turned in episode 5. If she could warn him that not only is the coven eyeing him because he's working on a cure, but there's even more incentive to turn his loyalty towards theirs. Would he have looked at Cleo, someone who he sees as a reflection of himself, and someone he trusts, and taken that offer - even with the limited knowledge of the parameters of the cure they had at the time?
And would she have been able to turn him before Scott did?
Oh yes, Scott would absolutely be looking at the strategic next best person to turn in this case instead of continuing to go for plausible deniability.
Unless plausible deniability was important for the timeline of how long it would take for the emotional compromise to set in, and with the doctor so dedicated to nonviolence he couldn't find a reasonable opening for turning him in self-defense.
@jackdaw-sprite holy water thoughts? 👀
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The main thing is, I don't know that anyone on the human side even knows Pyro is playing it like an acid attack. In-universe it would be obvious, but the funny thing about minecraft roleplay operating off imperfect information about other characters is, sometimes, people just don't notice obvious stuff about another person's appearance.
So they don't know.
They don't see the acid burns on Pyro's face, because they haven't been mentioned. So as far as the humans seem aware, it's a way that causes some degree of pain, but more importantly keeps a vampire from going invisible or flying away.
The first use of it is against Pyro, who at that time is running around invisible and calling them all cattle. It is, in that context, a way to even the scales in a conflict with a terrifyingly more powerful enemy who is treating them like livestock.
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If you contrast this with the vampires, it's a thing that is so noxious to them that they can only handle it gingerly even when contained inside glass. They can pick it up but cannot throw it, implying that grasping it tightly enough to impart momentum in a direction is something they can't bring themselves to do.
Pyro is of course playing it like it left permanent scars on him that vampiric healing did not fix. Considering vampires are known for supernatural looks, this kind of points to holy water being both exceptionally rare and exceptionally horrible for them: otherwise, vampires would have many more scars on average.
This is the kind of shit that melts skin. It's awful, and it's not just the scarring: the sudden loss of every scrap of power you're getting used to probably feels claustrophobic, or agoraphobic, and almost the only times you're getting exposed to it is when the humans are about to try and kill you.
It's a rare resource. The humans are not going to use the Potion Of Remove Problem (vampire powers) and then proceed to skip on trying to make it permanent (by removing the vampire). They are being treated as livestock in a pen, so they are going to do their damndest to take you out while you are as helpless as they usually are.
So getting splashed with holy water does not just hurt, it's usually accompanied by intent to kill and a violent turn of the tables from hunter to hunted. Of course someone becoming used to having more physical power than those around them is going to have an especially visceral reaction to that.