film-student life

[braveten]

A List of Quotes About the Doctor and Rose

“From the moment they meet, the Doctor and Rose are soul mates. They understand and complement each other.” – Russell T Davies

“To all intents and purposes, it’s a love story, really, the Doctor and Rose. Rose is clearly in love with the Doctor. And as time goes on we realize that he’s rather fallen for her.” – David Tennant

“She’s the one woman, the one human, that can make him better – that can make him a bigger character, a better man.” – Julie Gardner

“It’s a love story. It’s like love at first sight, in a way.” – Christopher Eccleston

“What Rose brings to the Doctor’s life is completion. It’s completing a circle – he’s male, he’s alien, he’s a traveler. Between the two of them together they complement each other and discover each other. And are in love with each other – absolutely, unashamedly, unreservedly.” – Russell T Davies

“I think it’s like all these relationships, like Mulder and Scully and Moonlighting, you know.” – David Tennant

“Obviously and quite overtly, really, the subtext of this show is that the Doctor is hopelessly in love with Rose.” – Steven Moffat

“You want Rose and the Doctor to be having a good time, going for a nice candlelit meal and, you know, maybe even the snog that we all know they really want.” – Julie Gardner

“It was what Russell had schemed, really, and there was an idea that the Doctor would imprint on Rose, like a sort of newly hatched chick. He would adopt Rose’s way of speaking.” – David Tennant (on why his Doctor has an English accent)

“The Doctor and Rose love each other. I think it’s that simple.” – Euros Lyn

“The Doctor is literally thrown into this bizarre new circumstance before he’s properly gotten himself together after saying farewell to Rose, who was the love of his life.” – David Tennant

“He’s a very damaged and closed man. She brings that out of him. She brings him back to life. She widens his horizons.” – Russell T Davies

“Oh, it’s SO love. I don’t care what anyone says. The Doctor and Rose love each other. HOW could they not? You can’t have the best times in the world – in the universe, go on all those journeys, have that much fun, sacrifice yourself to save each other. They absolutely love each other.” – Julie Gardner

“He knows that Rose mustn’t come back and that it goes against all the laws of space and time, and yet the chance to get to see her again is clearly something that he’s very excited about and delighted by.” – David Tennant

“I don’t think they really ever question it, they just get on with it but there’s this kinda suggestion, you know, that there may be some romance. I think she’s quite in love with him.” – Billie Piper

“He loves this woman so much.” – Julie Gardner

“I think Rose was unique in the sense that she loved him and he loved her back. And it was more than just a hint. It was deeply emotional.“ – Freema Agyeman

“You want it to happen, but at the same time you don’t want it to happen. It’s one of those weird things. It’s like Ross and Rachel.” – Billie Piper

 “In the end I sort of though we created a companion who was so alive and dynamic and so wedded to the Doctor that you’d need a whole universe to contain her in. The only way to get rid of her is to send her into a parallel world from which she can never return; otherwise she would stay with the Doctor forever.” – Russell T  Davies

“The whole thing has been building up to them meeting each other. You couldn’t bring Rose back and deny her a meeting with the Doctor.” – David Tennant

“When the Doctor met Rose, that was a very different Doctor, that was a lonely, damaged man; his entire planet had been wiped out. Rose helped him move on from his terrible grief he’s been dealing with. She knocks off the Time Lord edges and humanizes him just as he Time Lords her. They were what the other was lacking, they are inseparable.” – Russell T Davies

“There’s a part of her that feels very comfortable and very attracted to this new Doctor because he is the same guy, but clearly he’s not and clearly she’s saying goodbye to this other man that she’s been in love with. For the Doctor himself there’s just another heartbreak and another tragedy and he’s back on Bad Wolf Bay where he last experienced this, he’s saying goodbye again and bidding farewell again and this time it’s closing forever and there’s no going back. And in gifting her this other Doctor he’s not really allowing himself to go back either.” – David Tennant

“You know the thing is, I’m always quite full on when I kiss him as Rose, because she has this, you know, desperate love for him.” – Billie Piper

“Obviously and quite overtly, really, the subtext of this show is that the Doctor is hopelessly in love with Rose and trying to impress her. And then a younger better looking guy with the better gun turns up and he’s so annoyed.” – Steven Moffat

“Just in the terms of acting a scene like that, if Rose is over there, and she’s all you want in the universe, and you’re desperate to get to her, you’d want to be able to run flat out, wouldn’t you?” – David Tennant

“From first holding the Doctor’s hand to a farewell on a beach, Rose is the Doctor’s reason to fight, to endure, to ensure there’s light in the darkness. Together they can achieve anything. As Episode 9 describes it, they are the stuff of legends.” – Julie Gardner

“Finally they get to this wrecked, deserted, night-time, battered, Dalek-invaded street – civilization gone. Across the greatest possible distance, there they are, her with a great big gun, him with the Tardis, and they run toward each other like the biggest romance you’ve ever seen in your life…And, as in all great love stories, he’s cut down by a Dalek. I think that’s what should happen in most films, really. Gone With The Wind, Four Weddings and a Funeral, Notting hill – they all should have had the hero cut down by a Dalek, and they would have been vastly improved.” – Russel T. Davies

[tentyler]

[skyler10fic]

This one hit me right in the feels

[tolkienmercury-deactivated20220]

Like this if you liked the finale.

Reblog if you hated the finale.

I'm trying to see something so pls interact.

[winterofthedarkestlight]

The Marvel Juggernaut: With Great Power Comes Zero Responsibility by Megan White

[ancylynmania]

Yeah, what I said from the beginning: they made Steve Rogers, who was created as the anti-fascist and fighter for the oppressed, and turned him into a suburban, patriachalic conservative. They made him the opposite of what he was and what he was created for. (I might even dare say this was happening during the height of Trumps and his values power)

And Chris Evans refuses to see that, who himself is an outspoken anti-fascist. Not that he could have changed the story or changed what Disney tells him to say in public. He hides behind Disney’s scripted words. 

[bleepbloopclub]

As much as this Supernatural and Destiel stuff is a completely valid reason to shit on the CW, it’s also drowning out the fact that they chose to cancel Black Lightning after 4 seasons and the actors had to learn the news from Twitter

[lifemodeldecoy]

Being absolute fucking shit and the CW, name a more iconic duo.

[waywardsunlight-deactivated2021]

Also, one of the female writers from Superman and Lois was fired after calling out racism and sexism in the scripts for the show. 

[elizabethrobertajones]

I am 1000% sure there’s something egregious involving the 1OO that I’ve forgotten as well.

[lets-steal-an-archive]

Y'all need a works cited section for your wank posts, so I started one:

Citation Dumps:

Academic work + journalism pieces on The CW that aren’t kissing their collective asses (mostly posted Jan 2020, updated Nov 2020) https://justanotheridijiton.dreamwidth.org/36025.html

SPN Acafandom Bibliography (last updated by me, May 2020) http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/Academic_Books_and_Articles

Black Lightning:

In an Instagram video posted Saturday, China Anne McClain (who plays Jennifer Pierce, aka Lightning), revealed that the show’s upcoming fourth season was going to be her last “regardless of if it went on or not.”

Though the actress said she didn’t find out about the series ending until the news broke Friday, she elaborated, “What I did know and have known along with the rest of the cast since before we even started shooting this season is that I am leaving the show. And was leaving the show. This was going to be my last season.”

Source: Caruso, Nick. 2020. Black Lightning Star: You’ll See Less of [Spoiler] in Final Season. TV Line, November 22. https://tvline.com/2020/11/22/black-lightning-season-4-spoiler-china-anne-mcclain-leaving-cw/

Lois and Superman:

Steiner, Chelsea. 2020. Superman & Lois Writer Nadria Tucker Calls Out Producers After Being Let Go. The Mary Sue, November 8. https://www.themarysue.com/superman-lois-writer-nadria-tucker-calls-out-producers-after-being-let-go/

Bui, Hoai-Tran. 2020. ‘Superman & Lois’ Writer Nadria Tucker Says She Was Fired After Raising Issues With CW Show’s Sexism and Racism. /Film, November 9. https://www.slashfilm.com/superman-lois-writer-cw-issues/

StickyKeys. 2020. Former “Superman and Lois” Producer, Nadria Tucker Shares Her Story. The Geekiary, November 15. https://thegeekiary.com/former-superman-and-lois-producer-nadria-tucker-shares-her-story/88987

The 100:

their 2016 Lexa campaign is literally #1 to The Castiel Project’s #2

(source) (Leskru page)

Ryan, Maureen. 2016. “What TV Can Learn from The 100 Mess.” Variety, March 14. https://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/the-100-lexa-jason-rothenberg-1201729110/

The Vampire Diaries:

Plec, Julie and Ian Somerhalder. 2016. Vampire Diaries: Ian Somerhalder blogs ‘Days of Future Past.’ Plus, Julie Plec gives an exclusive statement on those major deaths. Entertainment Weekly, April 1. https://ew.com/article/2016/04/01/vampire-diaries-julie-plec-blog-ian-somerhalder-days-of-future-past/

LGBT Fans Deserve Better: The WB + The CW (only through 2016/17 season) https://lgbtfansdeservebetter.com/list/the-cw/

*Buffy moved to UPN for their last 2 seasons so that’s why Tara Maclay isn’t included in their database, and after she was buried, that fandom raised over 8k for The Trevor Project

Further Reading:

Agard, Chancellor. 2020. The Flash fires Hartley Sawyer after racist, misogynist tweets resurface. Entertainment Weekly, June 8. https://ew.com/tv/the-flash-hartley-sawyer-fired/

DasGupta, Sayantani. 2010. White Vamps, Black Witches: Race Politics and Vampire Pop Culture. Blog post, December 18. http://storiesaregoodmedicine.blogspot.com/2010/12/white-vamps-black-witches-race-politics.html Crossposted to Racialicious https://web.archive.org/web/20110224140659/http://www.racialicious.com/2011/02/21/white-vamps-black-witches-race-politics-and-vampire-pop-culture/

Goldberg, Lesley. 2017. ‘Supergirl,’ ‘The Flash’ Showrunner Fired Following Sexual Harassment Claims. The Hollywood Reporter, November 29. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/supergirl-flash-showrunner-andrew-kreisberg-fired-sexual-harassment-claims-1057390

Holloway, Daniel. 2017. ‘One Tree Hill’ Cast, Crew Detail Assault, Harassment Claims Against Mark Schwahn (EXCLUSIVE). Variety, November 17. https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/one-tree-hill-mark-schwahn-harassment-assault-1202617918/

Holloway, Daniel. 2017. ‘Flash,’ ‘Arrow’ EP Andrew Kreisberg Fired Amid Harassment Allegations. Variety, November 29. https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/flash-arrow-andrew-kreisberg-1202623603/

Mitovich, Matt Webb. 2020. Black Lightning: Original Cast Member Damon Gupton Out Ahead of Season 4. TV Line, January 19. https://tvline.com/2020/01/19/black-lightning-damon-gupton-leaving-season-4-chief-henderson/

Otterson, Joe. 2020. 'Black Lightning’ to End After Season 4 on CW. Variety, November 20 https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/black-lightning-final-season-4-cw-1234836722/

Petski, Denise. 2020. 'Black Lightning’ To End With Season 4 On the CW. Deadline, November 20. https://deadline.com/2020/11/black-lightning-end-fourth-season-on-the-cw-1234619591/

Porter, Rick & Lesley Goldberg. 2020. Hartley Sawyer Fired From 'The Flash’ After Racist, Misogynist Tweets Surface (Exclusive). The Hollywood Reporter, June 8. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/hartley-sawyer-fired-flash-misogynist-tweets-surface-1297483

Ramos, Dino-Ray. 2017. Sophia Bush, Hilarie Burton React To Firing Of Mark Schwahn: “Justice Is Served.” Deadline, December 24. https://deadline.com/2017/12/sophia-bush-hilarie-burton-mark-schwahn-fired-one-tree-hill-the-royals-1202232408/

Russell, Channelle. 2019. Necessary but Unknown: Black Women as Peripheral Objects in The Vampire Diaries. BLACKSTAR*, October 9. http://www.blackstarmag.com/commentary/2019/10/9/necessary-but-unknown-black-women-as-peripheral-objects-in-the-vampire-diaries

Subramanian, Janani. 2010. In the Shadow of a Metaphor: The Vampire Diaries and Southern History. Flow TV, July 16. https://www.flowjournal.org/2010/07/the-vampire-diaries-and-southern-history/

Winfrey Harris, Tami. 2011. You Choose — Triggering, Tokenism or Erasure. Blog post, March 11. https://web.archive.org/web/20110310155028/http://whattamisaid.blogspot.com/2011/03/you-choose-triggering-tokenism-or.html Crossposted to Racialicious https://web.archive.org/web/20110312162903/http://www.racialicious.com/2011/03/04/you-choose-triggering-tokenism-or-erasure/

[great-tweets]

Beware!

[rayvenreayes]

Avoid sci-hub too👀

[queeranarchism]

From Ask for PDFs from People with Institutional Access

[lettuce-seize-the-day]

i made a powerpoint of everything thats happened so far

thank u @sporkchildren for helping me format!!!!

[naruhearts]

I’m done keeping my composure.

Sorry, this will be a LOADED post! (And I’ll be repeating the points others have made)

for real, to everyone being nasty and telling heartbroken fans that “Dean was always supposed to die get a grip you’re just butthurt etcetera etcetera—” F you royally.

How dare you police the brutal feelings that’s been embroiling us since the Finale That Must Not Be Named aired. 

The show you think you all watched, the show you all believe was the same SPN from Season 1-4, changed at some point. Kripke wrote his original vision, put it to screen, saw it through in S5 as he intended, and closed the door on that era.

In 2008, Supernatural was adopted and inherited. As you know, there was a supreme paradigm shift post-Kripke era. The show FLOURISHED (we won’t talk about Gamble thanks). It evolved, transformed, grew beyond trauma-induced self-worthlessness and toxic masculinity and endless death and hegemonic social ideals and conservatism and repressive anti-revolutionary ideas. Castiel, the iconic favourite and beloved staple of the series portrayed by Misha Collins, was introduced in Season 4 as the core lead character, and he ushered in a brand new era of Christian mythos that SPN took advantage of. Longevity SKYROCKETED. Audiences were INTERESTED. SPN amassed an incredibly groundbreaking fanbase infused by non-nuclear principles. A massive subversive wave began, fighting the Status Quo of the times since 2008. It’s precisely why such an abysmal ending to a show of extensive Freud-Jungian metanarratively meta META complex stature and social POWER will render us totally and unbearably broken for years to come.

Point is, DEAN WINCHESTER NO LONGER WANTED TO DIE. HE WANTED TO LIVE. HE WANTED TO SIT ON THE BEACH, PLUNGE HIS TOES IN THE SAND, AND SIP UMBRELLA DRINKS WITH HIS BROTHER AND HIS BEST FRIEND. He said this in Season 13. And then, a season later, he told the ghost of his long-deceased father — the source of his deep-running trauma and the figure of self-reductive authoritarianism permeating his arc since Season 1 — after being questioned why he didn’t pursue the Nuclear Fam, that he already has his own: his brother Sam, his adopted child Jack, and Cas.

Dean’s best friend Cas. Oh god, Cas, who made his inevitably permanent mark on Dean’s soul beyond allyship. Castiel, renamed to Cas, God’s -iel removed by Dean. Dean, the human spark that lit the fire of pre-existing autonomy in the inherently rebellious angel who was, this entire time, the catalyst for free will in God The Writer’s puppet show. Their friendship set on goddamn fire. I can also write paragraph upon paragraph about my love for Cas while devastated tears stream down my face, but I digress—

Cas’ romantic love for Dean pushed our main Heart of SPN to love himself. Love is free will. Free will is also love. Of note, Cas’ love confession in 15x18 was supposed to offset something so vastly important and fundamental…to maybe (read: most likely) pull the trigger on SELF-TRUTHS in conjunction with free will. And The Great Anticipated Follow-Up to the episode penned by the passionate Berens should have included (read: seemed like it was going to be) Dean, closeted trauma survivor in love with his best friend, being given the opportunity to do it right: to SPEAK HIS TRUTH, and then that very singular opportunity was STOLEN so grossly. After poring over it for days, I refuse to believe we made their years-long story up out of thin air, spun it out of fantastical-delusional dream cotton candy, because we DIDN’T. IT WAS REAL.

As I said in another post: “I’ve just been feeling physically ill for the past >40 something hours with the terrible knowledge that 19/20 undid years of vital progression towards healthy interdependence, autonomy, and a positive endgame, where Sam, Dean and Cas close the ring of found family in final empowering self-fulfillment…where Dean, no longer repressed and set free, is able to use his words and speak his truth as a queercoded trauma survivor, henceforth confirming and self-affirming his own bisexuality since S1 by reciprocating — by telling Cas that he always loved him, too, loved him endlessly, which would have altogether divested Supernatural of its cult status and catapulted it into global worldwide significance as the longest running sci-fi genre show in American broadcasting history that actually dared to defy and, by proxy, empower LGBTQ2IA+ everywhere who found profound personal meaning in Destiel through VALIDATION,” — found themselves mirrored in Dean and Cas’ respective character journeys individually and as each other’s queer love interests.

THIS IS WHY DEAN WASN’T MEANT TO DIE.

THEY WERE SO ESSENTIAL, NOT JUST TO THE OVERARCHING STORY AND HEALTHY INTERPERSONAL THEMATICS OF MODERN SPN, BUT ALSO TO THE SOULS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE WORLD WHO FOLLOWED THEIR JOURNEYS, HOPED FOR THEM, ASPIRED TO BE LIKE THEM, TREASURED THEM, WEEPED FOR THEM, AND FOUGHT FOR THEM, LIKE YOU AND ME.

Heck, how could anyone think Sam Winchester had a well-deserved characteristic ending? He didn’t. Dean’s brother was shafted so badly. He stopped hunting when seasons ago, he had canonically accepted that he no longer wanted an apple pie life. He simply…turned the lights off in a resoundingly empty bunker and left — abandoning his dead brother’s room — never to return (he did return later to get the Impala, family photos etc, I mean this symbolically)…as if — dare I say it — Supernatural itself eerily told us, in the negative-spaced pitch blackness, that the organic show and the wonderfully complex, matured characters we’ve grown to love weren’t going to survive or be revisited…that it was all going to perish, and that they no longer gave a single shit about their own show, which, to me, is the worst cardinal sin, because how dare they throw Team Free Will, an immovable and indomitable and passionate found family they built from the ground up, a found family CHOCK FULL TO THE BRIM OF LOVE AND LIFE RAGING AGAINST THE AUTHORITARIAN MACHINE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE FREE WILL, under the bus no matter who is to blame. Growth was stomped on.

Then Sam married a faceless wife who wasn’t his textually established (and deaf) love interest Eileen, named his son Dean Jr., and grew old miserably, still mourning the passing of his older brother, shaken and sombre. Back to square one. IT WAS ALL ANTITHETICAL, even OUTSIDE a shipping context, and I ripped my hair out at this point in sheer disbelief.

This 15x20 ending would have fit somewhere between S4-7. Now? IT DOESN’T FIT. IT’S A JAGGED PUZZLE PIECE THAT DOESN’T BELONG ANYWHERE. IT’S THE FOREBODING UNKNOWN STRANGER IN ITS OWN LAND, BOTH LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY. This kind of ending was basically an illogical, unsound cluster of metastasized cells that, to me, ruined the viability of previous seasons to sustain bold praise and respect and dignity and rewatches and classic nostalgia in such insidious ways.

Dean Humanity Winchester and Cas, after everything they’ve been through, were silenced and lost in death, ripped apart from each other, unable to love each other the way they deserved, because of disappointing, vile incompetency and homophobia. The greatest love story ever told, again obliterated in less than 60 hollow minutes.

You know what this tells your audience, CW SPN? Death without self-growth is the way to go, and no one is allowed to forge their own path to freedom.

HOW INSULTINGLY HARMFUL IS THAT?

I don’t think I’ll ever stop grieving.

We all deserve answers.

[winchestears]

(x)

[greywrenn]

Bringing this back in the wake of the silence from the cast after 15x20.

[sprotteslaettberg]

Remembering how this show has been burying its gays for years

[lets-steal-an-archive]

The Castiel Project for The Trevor Project

Dean Winchester is Love for the National Alliance on Mental Health

Sam Winchester Project for Together We Rise

[shows-up-naked-covered-in-bees]

4. Eileen Leahy for National Association for the Deaf.

[nicollekidman]

thinking about season 15 as a whole is making me laugh maniacally and contemplate running face first into a wall. even just season 15. where cas and dean’s final storylines were all about each other. where their relationship superceeded a fight with god. where there was a rupture that took up a third of a season, a reconciliation they could only create in a separate dimension only they ever went to, where cas’s happiness was entirely with dean and where dean’s self actualization required recognizing and putting down his anger (of course i forgive you), internalizing what cas said to him, and stepping away from a violent end (that’s not who i am). and then. cas disappeared never to be seen or truly discussed ever again. and dean seemingly forgot cas was his best friend and a person we’ve seen him unable to live without, and didn’t even. complete his side of the story or verbalize anything at all. and then he died. on a random case he pulled from john’s journal, daddy’s blunt instrument at the end of it all. like season 15 was GOOD and it was ABOUT dean and cas and the way they’d healed and changed each other. season 15 was good!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then they gathered up the pages of the story and lit them on fucking fire and danced gleefully around the ashes. just for fun i guess??? anyways what a bummer we never saw what happened after dean collapsed on the floor ❤️ guess we’ll just have to tell the story ourselves ❤️

[agusvedder]

Misha's panel,my dudes. Enjoy. Love ya.

[lazrusrising]

honestly i can’t believe they made a specific point of this being the only universe in which cas fell so deeply in love with dean that it changed fate and derailed god’s plan and then just never mentioned their relationship again

[angeltiddies]

dear god someone make a compilation fo them talking about the hand print there have been three times now and they all contradict to some degree INCLUDING the two time’s misha has discussed it. 

[clickbaitcas]

Oop

[clickbaitcas]

Hehe here you go @heller-jensen

[angeltiddies]

JUST WHYYYYYYYYYYY

[justjensenanddean]

wIwvanya - shittyalignment

[rozanovnas]

What the Fuck Happened to the SPN Finale?

Okay so here it is, my Charlie Kelly style manifesto.

Before I get into it, I recognize that I will look like this to many of you, and that’s okay, I understand:

Secondly, your personal Takes about the writers don’t interest me, I don’t need to hear them. This, as I’ll explain, is going to remain a writer positive blog, and that’s the end of it.

Third, and most importantly: some of what I’m going to talk about is fact, and some is highly educated speculation. I will notate what is speculation, just so there’s no confusion or hot takes in my inbox that I’m a conspiracy theorist or stirring shit up for no reason.

A list of what I’ll be discussing

The episode in regards to the rest of the season

The episode issues: length, editing

Scene placement and speculation of scenes cut

The scrubbing of Jack, Cas, Eileen

Network involvement and general timeline of when things were cut

Misha: theories on where he was, official company line, why we can’t expect to hear anything directly

The silence of the cast post episode (in Misha’s case, mid episode) and what this might mean

Jensen speaking with Kripke about the ending: why it doesn’t mean what you might think (also why kripke remained positive on the ending)

Walker, and why this episode had a major shift

Why the network would do this or get involved

Why the writers of the show simply aren’t the bad guys here, and what I “want” out of this post, since I know it’ll get asked

This is very long and under a cut, but I hope you’ll give it a read.

Keep reading

[strangehorse]

in case you were wondering, since the finale aired, there have been 480 new works tagged ‘fix-it’ in the supernatural tag on AO3. i’m not joking. there are a total of 3682 works tagged ‘fix-it’ in the SPN tag, which means 13% of that entire tag has been written in three days. god bless