If you have time and would like to, what are the main points they are saying. It had no english subs
ok i'm not spanish so i used a translator to help myself. some of what they said. it's pretty long so i'm putting the quotes below. i recommend you guys read it, it's very interesting and very very juicy!
Because Rossi, to me, wasn’t just an idol—he was my idol. And lately, he’s been disappointing me. I think now we’re seeing the real Rossi. I’m starting to think that all the stuff about “the old rooster,” or whatever, was just theater. The real Rossi is the one we’re seeing now. A rider who, almost 10 years later, still hasn’t gotten over the fact that he didn’t win another title. He just can’t let it go. It’s been 10 years—move on! And it seems like he’s bringing it up now to use it as a weapon, just as Márquez is tightening the screws on one of his protégés. To me, it seems completely out of place, and the timing… I don’t know if I should say it’s very poorly chosen or, on the contrary, it’s perfectly timed.
What we’re going to experience throughout all of 2025, which will be the 10th anniversary of the Sepang Clash, is going to be madness. Absolute madness, promoted by the system itself, by Dorna itself.
During the Rossi-Honda era and the first years with Yamaha, Michelin would make tires exclusively for him. He could even choose his teammates until Yamaha put its foot down and brought in Jorge Lorenzo. He’s said as much in this long podcast, and he's done others where he admits how far he went in his rivalry with Max Biaggi. And remember the psychological warfare he waged against Sete Gibernau? All of that, I already knew about Valentino's ruthless, cannibalistic side. But we didn’t want to believe it.
Well, he neither gets over it nor will he ever get over it. That’s clear—he’ll take it to his grave. Valentino will definitely take this with him.
Essentially, among the many things he’s said, Rossi called Marc Márquez the dirtiest rider ever in MotoGP. And it’s important to clarify here that sporco in Italian doesn’t just mean dirty—it means filthy, much worse.
I’ll talk about the opinion of someone who I think can’t be accused of being biased: a guy like Casey Stoner, a true genius, one of the most talented riders ever—this is indisputable. Regarding this topic, Stoner said that Rossi seems to forget that in 2008, he overtook him at Laguna Seca with an illegal move at the Corkscrew, going off track, and nothing happened. People forget that in 2011, Rossi knocked Stoner off the track. Rossi was able to recover, rejoin the race, and finish fifth, while Stoner stayed in the box. When Rossi went to see him, Stoner said one of the most legendary lines in MotoGP history, telling him: “Your ambition outweighed your talent.”
And that's the guy—without even mentioning what he did to Sete Gibernau at Jerez—that dares accuse Marc of being the dirtiest rider in the championship.
What people quickly forget, or don't realize, is that in that race—which we all journalists said was a psychological blow to Stoner because he inexplicably ran off the track and fell into the gravel towards the final stretch of Laguna Seca—there was a moment when Rossi braked before the braking zone, and Stoner, who was right next to him, almost crashed into him. That’s something that Stoner only commented on once and never brought up again. But that was the real dirty move in that 2008 Laguna Seca race. Stoner, thanks to his immense talent, managed to avoid Valentino but couldn’t avoid going off the track and crashing.
Casey also mentioned something important. Seduced by Rossi's magic on the bike, we may have missed or ignored a lot of things. What Stoner says is that Rossi had a blacklist of media outlets. If you didn’t align with him, you were blacklisted. And of course, getting a Rossi interview meant sales and publicity. So, you had to be on his good side. He was a true dictator both on and off the track.
Let me wrap this up because you’re giving a lot of facts, and that last one is very true. Valentino even managed to get journalists fired, including from Italian television, the broadcaster that had the MotoGP rights at the time, following his orders.
In those days, Alberto Puig tried to do the same during Dani Pedrosa's early years, targeting journalist Ernest Riveras. But here’s something important: although it’s true that Marc Márquez gives interviews mostly to friendly outlets, there’s one thing I know for sure—while Márquez is just as much of a “cannibal” as Valentino in many ways, to my knowledge, Marc has never asked for any journalist to be fired. He’s had disagreements with journalists or had issues raised with them by his team when there were complaints about an article. But as far as I know, none of those with permanent press passes who travel full-time—usually with contracts through Dorna or Repsol’s advertising—have been targeted in the way Valentino used to target media professionals.
It’s all there, with hundreds of thousands of views, and in those videos, we tell an uncomfortable truth: Marc made his mistakes, but above all, Valentino Rossi chose the worst way to lose that tenth title in 2015.
The worst way was precisely what he’s doing now—trying to play psychological games with a guy who was practically his son in the championship, someone he had anointed as such since 2008, ever since that famous photo by Jaime Olivaris. After that, Rossi signed a merchandising deal with him when he was still in Moto2. Then, when he slapped him—because that’s what it was—at Termas de Río Hondo, instead of talking to his “son” and working things out, he marked him as an enemy. Rossi marked him as a natural enemy and tried to destroy him. That kid fought back in the way he did throughout that year.
Yes, Rossi started it, but he didn’t realize one thing—Marc is cut from a different cloth. You can’t scare Marc Márquez. Of course, he woke up the beast.
In the same way, everyone in the paddock, 90% of them, including those emotionally aligned with Marc Márquez—like what Dennis Noyes calls the “emotionally supportive journalists” or, as I see it, Marc’s courtesan press, which does exist—know that Marc has admitted he made a mistake. Fonzy Nieto said it at the time, and I’m convinced Marc, at 31, would not repeat that mistake. He made a big error that cast a shadow over his sporting career, especially with the way he raced in Sepang before the infamous “non-kick.” But most importantly, this is recognized in his own documentary, “All In,” where Marc says, “I was going to go for it, overtake Jorge, and give the title to the guy who had caused me so much damage.”
Those are Marc’s words, and for many years, it was portrayed as if Marc had problems, while Jorge was doing everything right. The narrative was that Marc never had the chance to make a move, but that’s now been debunked by Marc himself. Marc has said, in his documentary, that he deliberately chose not to win that race because it would have given the title to the guy who had psychologically hurt him so badly. Those are Marc’s own words.
But, let’s be clear, Valentino has also given a lot of fuel and life to his supporters, and there are not just one or two of them, trust me. It’s like in politics—left versus right. That kind of confrontation also made its way into MotoGP back then, and it will continue even when Marc retires. It’s astonishing. It will continue when we reach the 25th anniversary of the Sepang Clash. Why? Because, since 2015, trenches were dug where each side’s supporters settled in, and almost 10 years later, they’ve fortified those trenches. Some people have even set up camp in them, and it’s nearly impossible to get them out.
But I’m talking about the people who have a “46” or a “93” in their social media usernames. These are the real fans, the big losers in this story, apart from the main characters who lost a relationship that could have been like father and son. It was always doomed, though. But I insist, I insist, Rossi hasn’t disappointed those who clearly believe in Valentino Rossi’s theories.
Rossi argues that the great riders, world champions, at some point, have had tough situations. He’s practically justifying that, to win a world championship, you have to be a bit underhanded—using a very Italian term—because it’s necessary. But the line he draws is that Marc hurt him not to win, but to harm Rossi himself. Now, I agree with that, but here’s a nuance: Marc was defending his own interests. Why? Because it wasn’t in Marc’s interest for Rossi to win that championship and go into the next season on a high. He was, in a way, protecting his future, not just that race.
Rossi tells this story himself—he says, “I started last in Valencia, and many riders moved aside to let me pass because I was fighting for the championship.” Sure, that’s true, but that’s also what he expected. Many did, but not everyone. At least one didn’t. Well, actually, two: Pedrosa and Marc Márquez weren’t going to step aside. Valentino never even reached them; he finished fourth, several seconds behind.
Jorge Lorenzo, who was another major victim of 2015, won the title with great determination that year, recovering from his earlier problems. It’s impressive how he performed in the second half of the season, but his title will always be marred by the perception that it was handed to him by Marc Márquez.
Then came Márquez's four consecutive titles and Pedrosa's retirement, as well as Valentino's prolonged career, which is part of his inability to move past the trauma of 2015. Valentino didn’t want the final image of his career to be 2015. What Valentino got wrong, and this is the problem with these personal discussions that feel like you're at home with friends but are recorded for eternity, is that with his latest video on Andrea Minò’s podcast, Valentino has essentially cemented 2015 as the final picture of his career.
Here’s a bit of juicy gossip that hasn't been talked about enough. Valentino had a romantic promise, apart from those t-shirts made in Valencia with his 46 logo and a plus 4 (+6=10), which never saw the light of day. He had promised his long-time girlfriend, Linda Morselli, that if he won the title, he would retire, switch to cars, get married, and start a family. When this happened, Valentino broke up with Linda Morselli because he refused to retire. He gave her a Mini as a parting gift, which wasn’t exactly impressive, but it was something. They hadn’t married yet, and all of this is documented. The topic is that after this, Valentino met his current partner Francesca, who is another beautiful person with whom he has really built a family and is happy. So, in reality, Valentino should thank Marc because, thanks to him, he found the love of his life. Here’s a question: would you trade your wife and daughters for the tenth title?
That situation—when I tell you that Valentino is no longer anyone, in many quotes—I mean that in earlier times, Valentino would have said Ducati, don't you dare sign Marc alongside my guy, and they wouldn’t have signed him. And now Ducati says, no, no, we want him. If Valentino doesn’t like it, well, that’s it.
One of the things—let's pull another curtain now, since you’ve talked about so much theater—is that power or those unwavering Italian allies Valentino has in Italy. It’s not just a few, it's many. But Italy is also very divided.
Valentino, you have or don’t have a team. You come here dressed in Yamaha, you’re still coming dressed in Yamaha, and you have a team that has just renewed with Ducati. You made Pramac go to Yamaha. Valentino did that with his refusal to Yamaha because Valentino wanted revenge on Yamaha. He wanted revenge on Yamaha for how they handled Quartararo's signing, how they sent him to the then Petronas satellite to end his career there. And he found out, practically with accomplished facts, when it was already done, and he didn’t forgive Yamaha for that.
so yeah here's a lot of what was said in the podcast. very gossipy very juicy. bon appétit everyone!
DA80: "In that moment [of the race], I don't know why... When you're fighting for the win in the last lap..." [he's referring to himself, probably meaning that he got angry/mad in that part of the race in Silverstone, fighting for a win and then loosing it, but their conversation starts in medias res so just guessing]
MM93: "What do you think? That I don't get angry or what? It's obvious that you get angry, but it's normal. It's good to get angry."
DA80: "It's like if in that moment I didn't want to celebrate it." [the 2nd place, ig]
MM93: "It's normal. You feel it inside. It's good not to express it. And then, once at home, you overthink about it."
DA80 "Right, right. Or in the motorhome, wherever."
MM93: "In the weekend [in Silverstone], you were the fastest."
DA80: "Yeah. Not the best, but still, I was there."
MM93: "Yeah, but in the race, when you were in front, it was different."
DA80: "I like it here." [the Red Bull Ring track]
MM93: "You're a braker, like me."
DA80: "Yes!"
DA80: "The corners... For example, here: arriving at the first left ones..."
MM93: "Yes."
DA80: "...and at least with a Moto3 bike, you cannot brake hard. So here is like if I have to restrain myself in the braking."
MM93: "Right, because otherwise, you go too... It happens to you the same thing as me."
Jack Miller: "I saw your video!" [referring to David's]
DA80: "You saw the sliding?"
Miller: "No. The day of CFMoto [event]."
DA80: [explaining to Marc what had happened] "In front of 3.000 people."
MM93: "Oh yeah? You stood up [on the bike]? [David nods & laughs] To greet?"
DA80: "On top of the bike, with all the feet."
MM93: "And there was a fall? What are you talking about, man?!"
"But was the bike moving?"
DA80: "Yeah, yeah. Of course, it was a show, and I had to greet people, but I said: «I'm gonna do something nice...»"
my favourite fun fact about the horror honda years (2021+) must be though, that marc did not break his streak of achieving a minimum one sunday race podium per year since his debut in 2008. my second favourite fun fact about the horror honda years is that across those three years, marc never (not once) finished a race outside of the points. my third favourite fun fact about the horror honda years is that despite missing half the season in 2023, marc didn’t break his streak of finishing the year inside the top15… since his debut in 2008 (13th then, 14th in 2023)!
apple juice - birthday kisses, personalised friendship bracelets, ‘have you got games on your phone?’, lip gloss collections, colourful shoelaces, making sure everyone’s included, strawberries, terrified of rollercoasters but rides them to impress you [song: red flavor, red velvet]
black coffee - soft hair, train tickets, guarded smiles, empty streets, tired eyes, city lights at 3am, travel addict & a little bit lost inside, huge hoodies, petting every dog they see, will always be there for you but doesn’t let on when they’re lonely [song: i love you, charsi]
peach iced tea - cute nails, never replies, reptiles are friends, neat study notes, gold jewellery, lowkey intimidating but secretly cares a lot, loves the night, doesn’t trust easily, haircare routines, the ‘perfect’ friend, a little broken hearted & a head full of secrets [song: handmade heaven, marina]
chocolate milk - fluffy jackets, bitten nails, tiny hands, doc martens, soft but obsessed with horror movies & afraid of no man, loves thrillers, mismatched socks, no makeup, kind to everyone but likes to be alone, always asking for hairties [song: pdlif, bon iver]
coca cola - headphones in, intense eye contact, cynic, kicking pebbles along the road, eyeliner, sitting in the car alone to let the song finish, not interested in dating, all nighters, candy addict, the one everyone wants to be/date [song: i think you’re really cool, guardin]
no but why is davey seen as the anxious mom friend when he's literally. not
he's not anxious, he's cautious. he's not scared, he's hesitant. there's a difference.
he's cautious of the strike, because he doesn't want to get involved- at least not at first. after all, all he wanted to do was "feed [his] family."
he's hesitant to join, because he's unsure of the outcome. he's naturally a planner, and is outstandingly good with his thoughts, so not knowing how something is going to end up is obviously going to make him hesitate before saying yes.
but once he says yes?
once he says yes, once he says "you do, mr. president!", once he says "they can't just change the rules when they feel like it"?
davey is fierce.
davey is strong.
davey is ready to FIGHT for what's important.
he's passionate about it. he's angry about it. he takes a logical route, he's doesn't make impulse decisions, and fans see this as anxiety, but it's not.
no, it's strategy.
he's effective in the way he thinks on his feet and comes up with the plans. he's quick, and, yes, he may not be the most violent, but why should nonviolence = weakness? why do the fans read his mindset- his intelligence and wit and knowledge- as "uwu anxious baby buzzkill"?
it's alright to write davey with anxiety. it's okay. i do it, too. but it's NOT alright to reduce him to one personality trait that revolves around him being anxious and nervous.
because, guess what? ALL of the newsies were anxious! all of them! it's literally stated in the lyrics:
"we're doing something no one's even tried/and yes, we're terrified"
so like !! why is davey the only one who is reduced down to this negative trait !! why doesn't davey get to be passionate? why doesn't davey get to have fun? why doesn't he get to be angry? sad? excited? why is "uwu anxious mom friend" the only thing that fans want to showcase?
and i'm not trying to start discourse here (because i simply do not vibe with discourse ❤) but i'm just. tired.
Like imagine Merlin having to go into spirit world to get Lancelot back properly from the Shade and the Triple Goddess deciding ‘okay, all you gotta do is walk out of here with him. But you can’t actually look back at him.’ (And you’ll be crushed by a crippling doubt the whole way, good luck)
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