INTERVIEW: TREY SPRUANCE - SECRET CHIEFS 3
NOT-SO-SECRET MANIFESTO
13 May 2007
Descending from his home in the Santa Cruz Mountains, multi-instrumentalist, composer and famed analogue producer Trey Spruance recently found enough cell-phone reception to chat with James Stafford about his pet project the Secret Chiefs 3, and their impending tour down under.
You’ve just finished a U.S. tour, how did that go?
Spruance: “This last one that we did went great, I had my first all-round positive experience with the different clubs; I’m used to being at odds with them. Australia has never been a problem in that respect. We broke in some new people on this last tour, and they went really well, better than expected really.
Have you found a stable Secret Chiefs 3 line-up?
Spruance: “There hasn’t been one consistent line-up for the Secret Chiefs ever, so true to form, we’re bringing to Australia a different line-up from the one we just did, including Danny Heifitz and Bar McKinnon who are based in Australia. And with two of our members based in Australia, I’m not talking out of my ass when I say Australia is like our second home.
Next stop Australia then?
Spruance: “Yeah, but I have to finish a big record that I’ve being working on this month before we come to Australia; the Book of Souls.
Book M, Book of Horizons and Book of Souls, are they forming a metaphorical encyclopaedia?
Spruance: “Like translating a concept that can’t be read with the eyes into a language that can be read with the eyes, I think that music is an even more elastic medium than writing things down with alphabets and words.
Are the intricately detailed and illustrated Middle-Eastern philosophical manifestos in the album artwork congruous with the music, i.e. more than a gimmick?
Spruance: “The music itself comes from those ideas. The different tuning and rhythmic stuff we do is very literally based on those philosophies and are the real sub-stratum or the hermetic basis of the Secret Chiefs 3. We’re just getting more articulate about what those things are within the music now. It’s getting more and more literal; it is becoming that philosophy over time. We’re sort of in a middle stage right now and that’s why I think its so exciting, implementing all of that stuff and realising that it can work in this modern western society where we can relate to it on a musical level, even if we can’t wrap our brains around it.”
Do you approach recording much differently to playing live?
Spruance: “In my view, a live concert has all of this ethereal energy floating around the room and you can’t get that on an album. This is a mistake a lot of bands make, they’re reluctant to do a bunch of over-dubbing or “over-produce” their album, but you have to do something to make up for the fact that its not a live show. For me, that’s where record production is an art in and of itself, and its one of the things that must be done to make it worth everybody’s time to sit down and listen to your fucking music!
What kind of live show can we expect this time?
Spruance: “It’s definitely going to be loud and I’m sorry about that. It involves turning up acoustic instruments up really loud, which is really dangerous and probably shouldn’t really be done, but we do it anyway. We’ve had to get instruments re-threaded according to the tonalities we’ve been applying and we’re exploring some non-equal tempered scales, so that means we’re bringing a lot of different kinds of instruments. We’re pretty disciplined about our intonations.”
Are you looking forward to the tour?
Spruance: “Yeah, Brisbane was definitely our favourite show from the last Australian tour, it was very special. Eyvind was going through some things at the time and it was a real catharsis.”
Secret Chiefs 3 seize the stage at The Coolangatta Hotel on Saturday19 May and The Zoo on Sunday 20 May 2007. Published 12 May 2007