So far we have gotten Mingukkie, Jungji and Jimkook. Bighit, Jimin and Jungkook must know that their most popular unit name is Jikook so I really wonder why they are all avoiding that name like a plague. I mean we have seen the company or members make reference to other unit names like taekook, Minimoni, Vhope, Sope and even Yoonmin. So why do they choose to come up with so many different names instead of just using Jikook which is the most common and popular unit name for Jimin and Jungkook? I find it kinda weird but maybe itās just me.
I never expected to be writing about this, but I feel it's important to talk about. Bullying and toxic behavior is serious and I keep seeing it come up when people talk about Are You Sure?! episode 3 in Jeju.
Frequently when reading about people's reactions to AYS, I find myself wondering if we've watched the same show. Even though I know our own life experiences influence how we see the world, it's always amazing to me how different that perception can sometimes be.
I am not here to tell anyone they are wrong about Jungkook and Tae and it makes no difference to me if you like them or not. I am only hoping to give people the chance to look again from a different perspective and maybe ask themselves what kind of lens they may be viewing this episode (and maybe life) through.
Itās not my perspective I want to show youā¦ itās Jiminās.
This is going to be a bit long, but I hope that you will read to the end and feel free to discuss or share your own perspective in a respectful way.
ā¶ļø Jimin feeling sick
Before getting into what Jungkook and Tae did that has upset people, we have to discuss Jimin feeling unwell. I want to start by pointing out that Jimin is in a good mood and his stomach does not seem to be slowing him down. Obviously he isn't 100% and he mentions feeling like he will vomit if he eats, but we see him drinking without issue and otherwise seeming fine. He's having fun at the restaurant and even chases Tae.
Let me repeat that, Jimin chases Tae down the street, abandoning his shoes! I am not saying Jimin doesn't feel sick, but he is obviously far from miserable.
The most popular theory is that Jimin has motion sickness from driving since he is known to get motion sick. I personally struggle with this theory since he is in such a good time in the car and not holding back puke the whole time. My personal theory is that Jimin is probably hungover, but obviously I could be wrong. Another reasonable guess would be that he is recovering from food poisoning or a stomach bug where he is feeling better, but still fragile. Either way, he seems okay for the most part.
Theory: Jimin hungover?
Am I the only one that thought Jimin was just hungover in episode 3 of Are You Sure?! A lot of people are guessing
ā¶ļø Bullying or playing?
I'm going to try to stick to the events in this section, but please keep reading because I have some things I want to point out in the next section.
It starts with the guys hanging out on the floor together having fun just being with each other. Tae and Jungkook start head banging while Jimin lays on the ground next to them. Jimin then sits up and says he feels sick. Then he tries to lay on Jungkook, but they both laugh when Jungkook stops him (while looking directly at the camera). At that point Tae spins Jimin around and wants Jimin to join them in head banging, but Jimin says he might throw up.
Jimin goes along with it anyway right up until his stomach revolts. At this point, Jimin pushes Tae's hand away and lays down. Tae laughs and Jimin smiles. Pretty sure he is feeling a bit like an old man.
Shortly later we see Jimin happily hanging out on the floor and singing when Jungkook decides to go swimming.
Then comes the water guns. Jimin is relaxing on the ground singing to himself when Jungkook runs up and sprays him and then runs off to ambush Tae. Jimin says he's exhausted at this point, but he doesn't seem upset, more like just stating facts and maybe explaining why he isn't joining them. There's lots more spraying by Jungkook, then Jimin goes back to singing while they reload and both come back for another round and soak Jimin. All the while they are spraying him, Jimin keeps laughing. Even when you can't pick out Jimin's individual laugh, (after 1 min mark in the video below) you can see his shoulders moving and at the end, you can clearly hear him laugh to himself, still entertained by the antics of these big kids.
Jimin changes into swim trunks and watches his friends play in the pool before sitting down and talking to us about how he is getting older and his body doesn't work the same anymore. He's obviously not feeling up to joining Tae and Jungkook in the pool, but he's smiling and moving around. And after talking to some birds, he decides to nap on the ground instead of going to lay down in bed.
Also, after a little nap and rest, Jimin starts running around with the water guns and then they all go to indoor rock climb and ride go-carts.
ā¶ļø Jimin isn't helpless. Period.
I have rewatched the footage over and over so I can look critically at the situation and three key things stand out to me:
Jimin isn't "that" sick. I am not trying to minimize how Jimin felt at all. He was obviously unwell and wanted to rest. However Jimin wasn't so sick that he couldn't get up and leave if he had wanted to. He had lots of chances to go lay down in bed and chose to stay over and over again. But we saw Jimin go all out chasing Tae earlier, and after a nap, Jimin is back to goofing around.
People need to respect Jimin and his choices. He isn't powerless. He knows how to set boundaries and chooses which boundaries to set, like pushing Tae's hand away when he feels like he might puke. Jimin is not being forced to stay downstairs, start round two with the water guns, go rock climbing, or ride go-carts. All of these were his choice and point to him feeling well enough and wanting to participate in the ways he chooses.
Jungkook and Tae are playing and laughing with Jimin. They are not trying to be mean to Jimin, they are including him in their fun. And we clearly see Jimin laughing and smiling in response. Even when he tells Tae to stop spraying him, he says it in a very soft, not assertive way and then continues to stay there and laugh when they keep spraying him. He isn't getting annoyed or frustrated. Jimin may not feel like getting up and running around with them (at least not in that moment because he does later), but he seems more entertained by their behavior than annoyed.
ā¶ļø Look again
When I watched the first and last time, I saw so much love and joy and I don't know how people missed it.
Love is never an excuse for putting up with someone who treats you badly. When people set boundaries, they should be respected. In order for me to see the behavior in this episode as anything other than harmless play, I would have to believe that Jungkook and Tae were intentionally being cruel, Jimin was upset by how he was being treated, and that Jimin wasn't capable of stopping the situation when ever he wanted. But I just can't find any evidence showing any of that. In fact, I see the opposite.
Iām going to focus only on what we see in this episode, but we have years of evidence that we are ignoring.
When Jimin is actually sleeping, we see both Tae and Jungkook check in on him and leave him to rest peacefully.
And later, when Jimin cut his lip, the panic and concern on both Tae and Jungkook's faces speaks volumes. Yes, it only takes a second for them to realize that Jimin is okay (that's how well they can read him) and return to smiling and being playful. But even when Tae breaks the tension with a fake punch, Jimin doesn't show even the slightest bit of annoyance. This is how they often play together and Jimin is okay with that in this moment.
Can I just point out for a second how funny I find it when Jungkook turns and tells the staff that Jimin got hurt like a little kid telling the teacher? š
This is their bond and we only get a glimpse of it. And we canāt forget the fact that Jungkook picked up and brought Jimin his shoes. If touching those things isn't an act of love, I don't know what is. LOL
I watched this episode over and over again and I didn't see Jimin being too sick and weak to set boundaries for himself. If Jimin had wanted Jungkook and Tae to leave him alone, I believe Jimin would have communicated that clearly and firmly and they would have listened. We have years of evidence that both Jungkook and Tae love and respect Jimin, to the point where people feel "shocked by this side of them they have never seen before". I think it's because "this side of them" doesn't exist and has been imagined by people that have forgotten that Jimin can set boundaries and make decisions for himself. I don't understand how people can ignore the evidence in order to see their play filled day together as something toxic and cruel.
Ultimately, it isn't up to us to decide if Jimin is being bullied, it's his. And if you look to him for signs he is upset with what is happening, there just isn't any evidence of that at all.
I say this from a place of love and without judgement... if you are more upset for Jimin than he is, then this may be less about Jimin and his relationships and more about how you feel in yours. If you saw something other than Jimin choosing to participate in his own way and having fun in spite of feeling under the weather, I suggest you spend some time reflecting on your ability to set boundaries for yourself. ā¤ļø
Am I the only one that thought Jimin was just hungover in episode 3 of Are You Sure?! A lot of people are guessing motion sickness, and that is totally possible. Maybe they know something I donāt since I havenāt made it through enough old content to know if Jimin gets motion sick. I just thought hangover when I watched it.
It started when Jimin said he thought he would puke if he ate. Was obviously feeling nauseous, but didnāt seem to be in the same kind of digestive issues as last time and he otherwise seemed fine. And there was no mention of being āsick/illā, so I felt like everyone knew why Jimin felt like vomiting.
I initially thought motion sickness since they were driving when it was first brought up. But that usually resolves after a while and he obviously continued to feel nauseous for a long time. And although I havenāt seen all the BTS content out there, weāve seen Jimin on boats and in cars several times during AYS without feeling like vomiting.
He also said his body is not the same anymore. That was a big one for me. I might be projecting, but I have said that often and definitely after drinking.
Itās also how both Jimin and the others acted. No one seemed overly concerned and Jimin seemed to be in good spirits overall. Plus, feeling sick seemed to be something that could be quickly triggered or made better.
When Jimin obviously felt nauseous from Jungkook and Taeās head banging, they were the opposite of concerned and even found it funny. I just donāt see them reacting that way if Jimin were sick. However, there is something entertaining about someone paying for partying a little too hard, not knowing their limits or realizing they are getting older. My spouse never laughs at me when I have a headache and is always sympathetic, even if itās a mild one. But the morning after Iāve had a little too much wine, my spouse will ask me with a smile on their face if I have a headache. And we both laugh at each other getting older. grey hair and wrinkles on your partner are hilarious and I am going to die of laughter when someoneās balls touch the toilet water
But donāt be mad, even Jimin found it funny. Plus, hugging floor seemed to solve everything.
So thatās why I had initially thought he was hungover. It seemed totally possible that they all drank together the night before and found it humorous that Jimin was paying for it. But I could totally be wrong. Do you guys know something I donāt? Does Jimin get bad motion sickness that doesnāt go away?
Really? NOW you announce the Jimin and Jungkook travel show? Now? When some of us are all going full delulu over SGMBā¦ you release clips of Jikook holding each other while snorkeling?!!!? Why are you feeding the delulu that I am trying to keep under control?
šš I am so excited to see them having fun together!
HELP! š³ that official hashtagā¦ #JiminxJungKook š³
It watched it the first time through and based only on the English lyrics was not about to jump to any conclusions. There wasnāt even a part of me that wondered if the song had any jikook connections or allusions.
I watched the video again with the subs on, saw the lyrics about debut and went, oh, maybe a fan song. A few seconds and a few lyrics later and now I cannot see the song in any way but to JK/about jikook. Your thoughts?
(P.S. I love your blog :3)
Okay okay, but be prepared to revisit this with me if more songs/interviews come out and prove me as delusional as I know I am šš
Let's take this bit by bit... Promo photos for Muse are very matchy with a previous JK outfit (so par for the course this solo season for them!)
The ONLY bit of information we have for Smeraldo is the information released with it....
Smeraldo likens back to HYYH era where they came up with this flower for their whole storyline basically which HYYH is for the gays. Let's not even pretend it's not. Lol my answer to someone asking me "why is it gay?" Post here:
Hi!!! Itās me again. I hope your having a great day. As our resident BTSpedia Iām hoping you can tell me where to look cause Iāve been on Yo
No idea why he mentioned June 12. June 13th is BTS debut date. July 9th is ARMY namesake day.... If anyone has any better ideas or I just missed something, clue me in!
The lyrics all just light hearted pure in love beautifulness? A song about feeling your feelings and letting your emotions emotion š„ŗšš„°
The lyrics just talking about loving you, getting closer to you, always wanting you.... Especially with the connection to the truth untold too? Jikook with the truth untold??!! Come on...
So I recently discovered Truth Untold by BTS, and I watched a few different versions. Version 1 was the one on tour that always shows up, it
So they changed 'and I still want you' to 'but I still want you'? Does that make a big difference though? And wasn't that the same day they
PLUS he filmed/recorded this song right before going on vacation with Jungkook. We know this because some of the kids in the MV with Jimin posted autographs they got from him, which he dated. 231122
And on 231123, he travels to Tokyo with Jungkook...
The airport photos, SO CUTE.
Although the absolutely problematic bullshit that's the people crowding them that close?? The fuck?? That's a
"you don't have to worry anymore, because we are together. Let's be more honest now" Right before they go on a trip together and then enlist together??? Alright š„ŗš„°
I'm willing to jump to conclusions. I'm NOT going to encourage anyone to take this as fact (ever) or jump with me though (yet). Lol I forewarned EVERYONE at the start of this post I was letting my delusions run a bit with this one for now š I'll come back and either double down or say forget this post exists after MUSE releases and if we get any more interviews over this lol
I am seriously worried about my delulu. I DID NOT go into this song looking for anything other than some fun Jimin content. I wanted to see his face, hear his voice, watch him dance and feel happy.
1st watch through, no subtitles, my thoughts were: cute song about love... obvious muse.
2nd watch through with subtitles: Oh cute! It's another fan song... wait... WTH?
My internal reaction was immediately reflected back at me by the other 2 ARMY in the room. We must all be delulu. Even though I believe Jimin and Jungkook have a special bond, I don't believe everything they do is about each other. I really expect Muse to be about Jimin and his inspirations, ARMY and love very likely being part of those. So this actually threw me for a loop because this feels loud to me.
This was pretty much my thought process
"Oh cute, another fan song" lyrics:
Now introducing
It all began on June 12
We gift happiness every day
Say, "Oh" (Let's talk about us)
Then the lyrics that made us literally pause:
All the things we couldn't say before
maybe about members?
And your hidden feelings too
??? ARMY's feelings are pretty loud and clear... who is hiding their feelings?
I'll tell you everything now (Just for you)
We're listening!
Don't you worry anymore
Since weāre together now
Let's be a little more honest (Let's go)
Well now I am full on smeraldo flower, the truth untold delulu!
And then this...
Ooh, I love you babe
I'll come closer to you
I love you, babe (Yes, sir)
Ooh, I want you, babe
I wanna hold your hand
And that's when I went full delulu! Jimin definitely loves ARMY, but I know who's hand he wants to hold:
And in case that wasn't enough:
Hišš so I was watching the new bangtan š£ and when 3j were shaking their hands and laughing and just being cute I noticed that Jimin's thumb
I'm just not sure I can convince myself this is simply a fan song.
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