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[hiddendragon7]

[angeluary]

🎀🩰🦢🪷 - megan the stallion, instagram post

[renysarchive]

Congratulations to this queen!🧡

[ecranimaginaire]

LESLEY MANVILLE wins her first Tony Award for her Broadway debut performance in OEDIPUS!

[phireads]

I am extremely wary of Christopher Nolan’s upcoming version of The Odyssey and its American accents, few Greek actors, terrible costumes and jarringly modern dialogue. HOWEVER, making Helen and Clytemnestra a dual role??? To mirror their choices and fates??? And casting LUPITA NYONG’O in that role??? Such an inspired choice that gives me at least a little bit of hope.

[infridin]

i'm not even hyped for odyssey but the culture war shit is probably the funniest case of right wing hypocrisy i've seen in a while. let's be real, most of the "muh realism, muh greek actors" talking points are about lupita playing helen. they don't actually care about casting greek actors considering how much they love glazing troy and my favourite very 100% pure greek actor brad pitt lmao. there is a reason why the same mfs who dickride elon weren't furious about americans playing french people in napoleon or americans playing jesus christ. if this movie was released somewhere during mid 2010s and all of the main characters were played by white americans or brits and someone said "i think that maybe greek actors should be casted as the main characters instead of only actors from usa or england", then this person would be called woke sjw. "nolan only does it because of the dei oscars!!". oppenheimer had no black actors in the main cast and yet it won 7 oscars. if the academy only cared about the non white actors, then all of the awards would go to killers of the flower moon and yet it won 0. oh and just to be clear, yeah, the armors look meh

[hiwelcometothemonstersancturary]

watched those trailers for that one odyssey movie and ngl it looks sooooo ugly. not in ugly as incompetent artistic direction and not in ugly as i think the actors are ugly but ugly as in they sucked the absurdity out of the absurd and packaged it to sell to men who are terrified of the idea of being caught even admiring the beauty of the sun

[elthbe]

Nolan's The Odyssey real problem

The most irritating thing for me about this adaptation is the fact that the main problem with all these reinterpretations and retellings is not touched upon: that is, the appropriation of Greek heritage without any kind of respect, understanding, or care.

There are many right-wing American men who say this adaptation is "an attack on Western civilization" and "white culture"; that Nolan is "rewriting history."

The fact is that history has already been rewritten, by Western European intellectuals during the Enlightenment, and not by Christopher Nolan in 2026.

The Enlightenment thinkers of Western Europe (England, Germany, France) were obsessed with classical culture (Greek and Roman) and began the "Grand Tour" to visit the cradles of these ancient civilizations.

If they loved the ancient Greeks and Romans very much, the same cannot be said for the descendants of these populations: they openly hated both modern Greeks and Italians, calling them too passionate and lacking in self-control; incompatible with progress and corrupted by the warm climate, which they believed made Greeks and Italians "lazy"; in some cases they defined Greek men as "submissive" and Italian men as "effeminate", while fetishizing Greek women as tragic figures with a statuary appearance and Italian women as seductresses devoid of morality. They thought of Italy as an uncivilized place more akin to Africa (against which they had, clearly, a racial prejudice) than to them; and in the same way they regarded Greece as part "of the east".

Italians and Greeks were not white enough to be included in the new concept of "West" and "Europe", even though those same intellectuals appropriated the classical legacy belonging to these peoples as the foundation of "Western civilization". They stole, either explicitly illegally or by exploiting moments of political instability in these countries, statues, artifacts, even entire pieces of temples, to take them to their museums, where they washed them with aggressive chemicals, ruining them to "preserve" the myth of classicism as "white, colorless" despite it being clear that those statues and artifacts were painted, ruining forever something they shouldn't have even had in their hands and that they still, to this day, refuse to give back. They even went so far as to say that neither modern Italians nor modern Greeks were truly descendants of the ancient Romans and Greeks, that our blood was corrupted or that those ancient civilizations went extinct and that we "replaced" them, declaring instead that THEY were the true heirs of classicism. And finally, after having despised and robbed the children of the ancient peoples whom they "admire" so much, they also altered and distorted the history of those civilitations, erasing the connection they had with the other civilitations of the Mediterranean and how they were influenced by them; only in this way could the classical world become "white", "European" and "Western", because those racist and xenophobic intellectuals would never have taken as the foundation of their "superior civilization" two civilizations deeply connected to civilizations they considered inferior and so THEY "rewrote" history!

All this to say that this desire to call classical culture "white", "European", "Western" arises from acts of zenophobia towards the very heirs of those cultures and racism towards the other peoples who helped form those cultures, without whom we would never have had Ancient Greece and Rome, because the Mediterranean is a place of connection between peoples and even today it is possible to see in small cultural aspects how we Mediterraneans are very connected.

History has already been rewritten by the Western European Enlightenment thinkers and if Nolan is doing anything it is simply keeping that rewrite intact: there are only Anglo-Saxon and American actors), no Greeks, no Turks, no Italians, no Mediterranean, yet the Homeric poems speak about us, but we are erased and we must be fine for someone who looks nothing like us to "represent" us in the founding poems of our civilizations (even if for now Roman mythology is still quite safe, even though Roman history is constantly distorted by their films) because according to them we are all now "white" (and it is true that Greece and Italy now have access to the privileges of being Western, European and white, but this doesn't change the whole problematic nature of how these concepts were formed and should make us reflect on how they initially excluded us and how our legacy and history have been distorted in a way that only now we are finally starting to see).

On the other hand, the people who defend this cast are equally blind to the problem, because they compare mythology to modern fantasy, without even knowing that these are different genres.

Mythology is a historical tale that presents fantastical elements that serve to explain what the ancients failed to understand, in addition to the fact that ancient peoples were extremely religious and their worldview was deeply connected to divinity.

People who listened to this story didn't believe the characters were "fictional," we in modern times today believe that!

For the people who heard that story, everything was true, every character was real, and that was the story of their civilization, of their ancestors.

Modern fantasy is completely fictional and therefore must not meet canons of historical accuracy, because it does not speak of real history, but of a story and a world invented by the author!

it's clear that neither the first ones, that until it was announced that a talented black actress had a role that is also quite marginal beyond anything else, were enthusiastic about this film and calm with the cast of Anglo-Saxons and zero Greeks; nor the other ones, who don't even know the basic difference between mythology and fantasy, care anything about these poems and this mythology; Most of the actors said they hadn't even read the odyssey and didn't know what it was before this adaptation and I know that this reflects a lot of American (and English) society and that all the people who talk a lot, both bad and good, of this film so far (or at least most of them) they have never even read the Odyssey or any other epic poem, and this for me is perhaps another of the most problematic aspects, because in both cases the country with the most power in the world appropriates something that it doesn't care about.

Americans have no right to take everything; if someone announced the film of a Nigerian myth, for example, but the cast only included African Americans, it would be equally offensive and problematic, because there is a difference between Nigerians and African Americans, and Americans have no right to appropriate the culture of others and erase their rightful heirs as clear as it is that culture belongs to everyone, as we are all humans and it is wonderful to connect through our stories.

This, however, should be done with the utmost respect and care, something the United States is not always capable of doing, from its perspective of profit and domination; this Odyssey will be a distorted version, made of individualism that fails to understand ancient religiosity and the value of community, in addition to the fact that Odysseus' masculinity is somewhat different from that typically Anglo-Saxon, because in general Mediterranean masculinity is different from Nordic masculinity, but this aspect will also be completely altered to please a certain segment of the American male audience.

Finally, I think it's controversial that there isn't even an effort at historical verosimilarity; it's not a fact of not being "historically accurate," but do we really want to pretend that it's right to put Viking ships, pants, and medieval armor with a cast of Anglo-Saxon actors in ancient Greece? What message does it send me to want to include a culture belonging not only to a different people and geographical area, but also to another era, while pretending that that is Ancient Greece?Were the clothes of ancient Greece not beautiful enough? weren't the ships of ancient Greece beautiful enough? weren't the Greek actors good and handsome enough? because this seems like the message of this movie, like this: "Your story is good, but I don't like your people, so I'll change history with my culture instead of yours by continuing to pretend we're in ancient Greece" which considering the whole story of cultural appropriation and xenophobic hatred towards the Greeks, carried out precisely by Western Europe (Nolan is English), certainly takes on a rather problematic nuance; they stole statues, rewrote history and now they also replace people visually, it's unfair!

It would have been much more interesting and beautiful if Nolan had taken all the artistic freedom he possesses and actually made a Norse version of the Odyssey, that would have been a much more appreciable creative move than imposing the Nordic scenario in the Mediterranean.

Or at least point out that this is an American/Anglo-Saxon/Nordic version of the Odyssey and that it doesn't really adapt the actual Greek Odyssey, because that's what it is and I thought so right from the moment this adaptation was announced.

There are many other things that could be talked about this adaptation and about the American obsession with Greek mythology (and Roman history) in general, but as far as this film is concerned, in my opinion this aspect is the most problematic.

[melina-mellow]

By far the funniest thing to come out of Nolan's Odyssey movie (to me) is IMAX's twttr admin fujoshing out about Telemachus and Antinous.

[this-is-trans-joy]

I know that Elliott Page probably isn’t playing Achilles in the new Odyssey movie but it would have been cool to have a trans man play a character whose name is a very common sexuality term amongst trans men and mascs… one can only dream 😔

[repelsteeltjes-blog]

Canonically transmasc achilles is blowing my mind actually. Like Thetis prophesied to have a son greater then his father who would then die, but would be remembered forever, then giving birth to a girl, thinking she might have subverted fate, only for Achilles to transition and dive head first into war so that he might be remembered long after his death.

Like theres stuff there

[this-is-trans-joy]

I hate how we’re missing out on so many good movies and storylines just because cis people cannot think about trans people or trans allegories beyond a cardboard cut-out of a trans person that says “these are my pronouns!” every so often.

[maxiemumdamage]

Also like. Achilles not being conventionally masculine by Greek standards, exhibiting feminine behavior, is a key part of the original canon. Not just because of the crossdressing — because of that scene in the Iliad where he’s withdrawn from the frontlines, sitting in his tent playing the lyre.

In that scene, even with Greek patriarchal gender views, Achilles is undeniably playing the “woman” in his relationship, the eromenos, while Patroclus is the “man” in the relationship, the erastes.

(Those terms can be loosely translated as “lover” and “beloved,” but since they described pederastic relationships there’s a lot more implied about power dynamics. “Top” and “bottom” is an almost equally acceptable translation.)

((The Ancient Greeks believed it was only gay or shameful to be involved with men if you were the one getting fucked rather than doing the fucking.))

(((This means that there is actual academic discourse about who tops or bottoms between Achilles and Patroclus, for which that one Iliad scene is always critical.)))

I forgot where I was going with this but anyway — Achilles is in fact canonically kind of a twink. Even someone that believes all that gross shit about trans men being inherently feminine still shouldn’t have an issue with Elliot Page playing Achilles.

[murfpersonalblog]

Kevin Sorbo, you MAGA wanker, I know YOU ain't talking! This you?

I could keep going, but wtvr. 🙄😒

And as for Greece's beaches ALL REQUIRED to be gorgeous crystal-blue tourist spots, wtf? The whole point of the Odyssey was that the ancient Greeks thought navigating the sea was harrowing BECAUSE so many of the coastlines were dangerous--NOT beach resorts, DUH.

He's talking about heavily inhabited vacation hotspots (the vistas deliberately selected & curated to be as aesthetically attractive for tourists & real estate moguls as possible), as if those represent the uncharted territory Odysseus was lost at sea in, where (super)natural forces had total control of the landscape in unpredictable ways.

Is Kevin THAT ignorant of how much volcanic activity shaped Mediterranean coasts? Why there's "gross" Greek beaches in places like:

Chios:

Lemnos:

And OF COURSE Santorini DUH:

Let alone the ITALIAN coastlines--since general consensus is that the Odyssey might not have been strictly Greek locations, but possibly much farther west across the Mediterranean.

Granted, IDK the context of that Zendaya frame from the movie--whether that's Odysseus still lost somewhere or if he's already back home on Ithaca. But ironically, even if it IS Ithaca, let's look a the frikkin pebble beaches ON THE IRL ISLAND OF ITHACA DUH:

Gidaki:

Kioni:

So Kevin Sorbo acting like every single coastline in the Odyssey (let alone Greece) is supposed to be crystal blue water and emerald green grass and golden sands is truly deranged behavior from someone who OF ALL PEOPLE should really know better,

[bringbackmaes14]

Every new thing I hear about the Odyssey movie makes me seethe with rage.

(Screenshot from this article)

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE NOT USING AN ORCHESTRA BECAUSE "it's not like the orchestra existed back then"?????

THAT HASN'T STOPPED CHRISTOPHER NOLAN FROM PUTTING TELEMACHUS IN A TUNIC AND PANTS,

OR USING A SCANDINAVIAN LONGBOAT AS ODYSSEUS' SHIP,

OR USING FUCKING BLACK AND GOLD-PLATED SKELETAL ARMOR FOR AGAMEMNON????

AND HE SHOULDNT DO ANY OF THAT ANYWAY BUT NOW YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT STICKING TO THE ERA???? WITH THE MUSIC???

Also, I continue to BEG these creators to do a SMIDGE of research before they open their fucking mouths because the etymology/concept of "orchestra" actually dates back to Ancient Greece around the time that Homer was writing the Illiad and the Odyssey to the word ὀρχήστρα (orkhēstra). It literally refers to the semi circular space where theater and dance were performed. So no, maybe not musical groups specifically as we think of them today with string instruments, woodwinds, and percussion (that wasn't until about the 1600s CE), but just saying "it's not like the orchestra existed back then" when the idea literally dates back to the time period you're referencing and there also were musical productions of the time that just used different words is so fucking infuriating.

I'm just... So fucking mad. Everything Christopher Nolan and his team doing is so disrespectful to the original story. And that's the thing too. It's not like it's a book where it's like one or two people's ideas on a page and you can go "oh wow I don't agree with the way this person views the world or that idea at all" and then put the book down and move on with your life. It's taking probably hundreds if not over a thousand people to make this movie. And no one tried to stop any of this from happening??? How do you get to this point of ignorance with that many people on your team?

[whencartoonsruletheworld]

"lupita nyong'o can't be helen of troy because helen was greek and there weren't black people in ancient greece"

DO YOU THINK THESE MOTHERFUCKERS DIDNT HAVE BOATS. THIS ENTIRE MOVIE IS ABOUT ONE OF THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS AND HIS BOAT

[whencartoonsruletheworld]

do you think these people can read

[phoenix]

Best comment I just saw "Helen of Troy was perfectly cast, because all these men are fighting about her."

[aphantpoet]

i always know people who say that asian or black people can't exist or be mentioned in european history know nothing about history or basic geography.

Europe and Asia share a landmass. They're so close that the reason they're considered seperate continents socially is political and historical. Africa is not exactly close but it's also not as far a journey as one might think, considering people in the past did not have motors and prepared for days worth of a journey.

Parts of Europe were under ottoman rule at certain points of history. you can find all sorts of small mentions of Africa and Asia across historical record and literature. There's even records of Africans being in Europe as well as the Romani who are a group traced back to South Asia. Just because the people saying this needle headed rubbish are so uncurious about the world around them doesn't mean everyone across time was.

[aquitainequeen]

(okay, this definitely isn't the reason for the double casting, but humour me)

[rafterdarkr]

why are all these modern aus for the Odyssey set in a high school. where's the retelling where Odysseus is just a guy lost in an airport who keeps missing his connecting flights home due to a comical series of delays and disgruntled airline employees

[aviewtodeath]

Animal Farm, a book criticising totalitarian governments, is getting a visual adaptation where there are silly animals selling their crops to those they're supposed to hate.

The Picture of Dorian Gray, a book written by an author who got imprisoned for sodomy, is getting a visual adaptation where the two characters with clear homoromantic undertones are turned into brothers.

Dracula, a book about a group of friends that explore the themes of antagonism and Victorian anxieties, is getting a visual adaptation where the count falls in love with one of his rape victims.

Wuthering Heights, a book that beats the reader over the head with a bat about how the POC protagonist wants to be privileged and white, is getting a visual adaptation with a white person as the protagonist and a POC as the one he envies.

The Odyssey, a book about a man from Ancient Greece trying to get home from war, is getting a visual adaptation coated in a "Hollywood" aesthetic that rejects accurate armour and casting.

2026 is not a good year for classic literature fans all around.