i recall someone commenting on one of my love square fics saying they “hope they don’t become too codependent” as if that isn’t the goal. codependent and unhealthily obsessed with each other is the only way they should be
I like to imagine after Chat Blanc, every little decision Marinette made or anything she said, she was constantly anxious and asking herself if that would lead to the end of the world again.
Like leaving a gift with her name on it is so small yet lead to such greater things, so it stands to reason she might wonder if every word she uttered would cause a similar situation or reveal her identity.
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“Yes, I went to the…bookstore…today” Can I say that? What if they saw Ladybug near a bookstore and put two and two together??
“Marinette, you should sign your sketches!”
“Heheh…yeahhhh” What if it’s too similar to Ladybug’s? What if someone thinks I’m pretentious for signing idk maybe and for some reason that causes me or Chat to get akumatized???
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Like some of them are kind of irrational but that’s Marinette for you
I love Nino being oblivious it adds so much to core four scenes 😪
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“Pft I can totally ask Ladybug for you! We’re just tight like that yk?”
And in his head he’s like: Yes, I’m so cool they probably think I’m amazing! (Talking to Ladybug and her two best friends btw)
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“Yes, let me teach you about kwamis! Look at me knowing magic! Impressed? 😁” (Talking to the guardian who lived with like 15 or something kwamis for weeks and the holder of Plagg btw)
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“Welp, Ladybug needs me for akumas now! Sorry guys, duty calls! I’m super important to the team yk, just gotta go help save Paris!” (Talking to THE saviors of Paris and their temporary undercover spy btw)
I CANT FIND THIS TIKTOK ANYWHERE AND ITS DRIVING ME CRAZY
Literally all it is is a clip of the scene where Kagami and Felix are giving their rings to Marinette, and both Felix and Kagami look at Marinette in panic (so hilarious I can’t w them), BUT there’s text and it’s like “he’s YOUR boyfriend” (Felix), and “he’s YOUR COUSIN!” (Marinette). And then it maybe was followed by an edit but idk
It’s driving me insane that I can’t find it please lmk if you find it anywhere….
It’s been probably a couple months since I’ve seen it but I’m like 99% sure that’s how it went
I NEED an episode of marinette and Nino trying to scheme something. I need to have the most nonsense episode where they jump to the CRAZIEST conclusion of all time.
AU where Chat Noir recognized Ladybug as Marinette day 1 and was like “Wait, I’m not supposed to know who she is, Plagg?” and has to hide it for the remainder of the series.
I feel like people misunderstand my problem with the ending scene of the chained titans.
It's not that there isn't any way to explain why Adrien sees being a superhero as a burden. There are. Just over the last day I saw about a dozen different explanations and they were all plausible and had some backing in the text.
That's the problem. The show leaves Adrien's motivations as something for the audience to fill in with whatever they want. But motivations are not some minor detail you can headcanon however you please without significant changes to who the character is. They're the core of who a character even is.
Take Marinette and Nino for example. In Vampigami and The Chained Titans they both did the same thing. They got anxious about the idea that they don't like the same thing as their partner so they lied to try and prevent a disagreement. But their motivations for doing so are different and so they tell different things about who Marinette and Nino are.
Marinette lied because she's an anxious wreck who regularly catastrophizes and takes said catastrophizing as truth. She thought a minor difference in tastes (not even a disagreement) would lead to Adrien not loving her anymore. This tells us she's someone who has some serious mental health issues to take care of, that she often lets her anxiety control her and that she's unable to deal with even small flaws or imperfections.
Nino lied because he has a lot of pent up anxiety about his home situation he's trying to repress. He saw his parents dynamic in even small disagreements between him an Alya or their friends. This tells us that he sees his parents constant fighting as something awful that needs to be completely avoided. And that as much as he tries to put up a strong front for his brother and ignore what's going on using his headphones, the anxiety he has about it is strong enough that it gets out in many other ways.
Do you see how the same action given different motivations tells us completely different things about the characters?
What a character does in a story matters mostly in what it tells us about them. Being able to explain an action in every way you want is just as bad as not being able to explain it at all. Either way, what you actually learn about the character is nothing.
If I wanted to make up a guy, I have my own stories I could be writing. When I'm watching a show, I'm not interested in doing the writers work for them and inventing on my own a character arc for Adrien that happened off screen and never actually goes anywhere in canon.
It's great that people can come up with their own headcanons that organizes all the inconsistencies in the show into something resembling logic. That still doesn't tell me who Adrien is or what story they're telling with him.
And just to demonstrate my point I went and collected a bunch of reasons I've seen people giving and explain what each would tell us about Adrien, but it got long so under the readmore it goes.
If the reason is that he himself enjoys it but he recognizes that it would be a heavy burden to someone else, then that tells us Adrien is a considerate person with high emotional intelligence, who's both self aware and very good at putting himself in other people's shoes. He's someone that either values being a superhero so highly that all the downsides natter little, someone who can handle the downsides well enough that they don't bother him much or both.
If the reason is because he was deeply affected by this or that negative experience he had as Chat and doesn't want to inflict it on another person, then that tells us that Adrien is self sacrificial to a fault. He's able expertly mask the way he'd been affected (considering we barely got any indication of him being affected by things like that) and has a tendency to take stuff on his own shoulders so that it won't burden others.
(The exact thing he was deeply affected by would also tell us a lot about him.
If it was his own powers then he's someone who's scared of himself, his powers and has a lot of complicated emotions tied up in wielding the power of Destruction. Alternatively, he's someone with a highly developed sense of responsibility who's both very aware of the damage he can cause, exerts a lot of control to prevent that and either doesn't want someone else to live with that or doesn't trust them to be as responsible.
If it was seeing seeing people turned into akumas then he's even more empathetic then previously thought to the point any upset from someone else would affect him.
If it was Sentibug being destroyed then he's someone who sees sentis as living people and is haunted by the thought of someone ceasing to exist on another's whim.
If it was his own role as distraction and sacrificial pawn then he's someone who's aware of some of the unfairness in the dynamic towards him but his self esteem is so abysmal he thinks it's fine if he suffers it but wouldn't allow such a thing to happen.
If it's because of Ladybug's treatment of him and/or him needing to do so much emotional labor for her then he's someone that in addition to having abysmal self esteem also has some very complicated feelings towards Ladybug. He sees at least some aspects of their relationship as negative and may even be harboring resentment.)
If the reason is that he actually doesn't think that but was simply making an excuse, then that tells us that Adrien doesn't trust Ladybug, doesn't want anyone else to have Plagg's ring or know who he is, doesn't mind lying and is very good at it.
If the reason is that he disliked the idea of him having a replacement, then that tells us he's deeply insecure about anyone wanting him around if they have other options, is willing to take underhanded means to prevent that from happening and then lie about it to make himself look better.
If the reason is that the last time he sent the ring away his father had to step up as a replacement and ended up dying because of it, then that tells us he's so wrecked by guilt over to the point where he'll irrationally reject something that is both tactically sound and can benefit him just because it's a situation that kinda resembles what happened then.
Some of these reasons may seem compatible with each other, and that's because they are. However, there still needs to be one that is most dominant and colors Adrien's reasoning here. He's not a real person. He can't simply be a multifaceted guy that just exists despite all his contradictions. He's a tool being used to tell a story.
It's there where the reasons become mutually exclusive. Because is this a story about Adrien being self-sacrificial? Insecure? Responsible? Empathetic? Distrusting?
That's not much better, I think it's still AI just a little cleaned up... It's really disappointing if one of the main topics of the new season is how environmentally friendly and progressive Paris has become and yet. They even hired artists for 2d illustrations so I'm not certain why utilize AI slop like they can't just use a still made with the 3D assets they have already
So canonically making the wish destroys and rewrites the whole universe…
This season I feel like Adrien/Chat Noir has less sass and attitude compared to season 1, and while that might be because he’s freshly orphaned 💔, I think it’s interesting that it could be a subconscious part of Gabriel’s wish that his son was less quipy yk?
I miss his sassiness!!
“That’s our last hope?” “Depends on her speech 😉” “Yeah, hilarious 😒” and of course his eye rolls! 😻
Interesting idea but it’s probably not the case just popped in my head :)
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