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George Russell ranks his Top 3 Best Looking Drivers
Charles, Carlos, and Lewis
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swapped made me cry so here we go
Hello! I donāt know if you are still dabbling in hellsing at all but I absolutely love your role swap au art. I was wondering if you have any headcanons regarding role swap Andersonās origins or how heāll view his faith as a vampire?
Hi! Thanks for the ask! Iām ngl I lowkey forgor I got this and my hyperfixation has shifted but uh Iāll see what I can remember
RS!Anderson was supposed to have been a soldier during one of those big wars in Europe and got turned in a bid to win the war. Self-sacrifice ynow? Damning his own soul to help the living. He still believes in God but considers himself something of a fallen angel type.
He lives on in an effort to thwart the evils of the world and tied himself to Maxwellās lineage in the hopes of keeping himself in check
Thatās all I can remember atm but if anything else pops up in my brain Iāll add it XD
I've had this stupid idea for a couple of days now
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There's something I've picked up on lately and it's probably not new and is a recognized trope with name. I don't feel like trying to look it up though, so I'm just going to call it the Irredeemability of Cringe.
My thesis is that Cringe is a spectrum and any character that is too Cringe and is classified as cringy becomes Irredeemable.
Of course, this phenomenon only caught my eye because of Homelander but The Boys gives me more material. Including the Deep and A-Train, but I will focus on the two biggest examples for brevity.
Homelander is a villain and, despite how he was treated in season 5, he was the villain that was framed throughout the series as being the most physically threatening. Though the role of ultimate villain was rightly Stan Edgar's, Homelander got saddled with it due to the showrunner's and writers' political fixation and skewed view of what the narrative of the series conveyed.
Homelander though powerful, threatening, and cunning is cringy. He drinks fresh cow's milk from a bucket. It has not been cleaned or pasteurized, so the audience can know that there is fur in it. He breastfeeds from a woman that he is not sleeping with or even romantically interested in. He bathes in stolen breastmilk from the NICU. Though there are deep psychological reasons behind why he does this and why he loves milk so much in general, the visuals make the audience cringe. Homelander is also often childishly petulant and insecure in a distinctly "unmanly" way compared to other characters. He behaves submissively toward some women, who were mostly villainous themselves, but was the rapist of a Good Woman. He flees from fights that he feels he stands a chance of losing, despite the advantage his superpowers give him. Which, as it is done by Homelander who is clearly defined as pathetic, is a sign of cowardice rather than intelligence or good sense. This is a villain that is plainly Cringe to most people, and in a way that makes him Irredeemable.
Now let's consider Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy was said to take advantage of some faceless women that were far too young for him. He is guilty of stolen valor; he is racist; he is in love with the same Nazi Homelander loved. But Ben gets to be charismatic and very cool too. His appreciation for older women is not some hunt for a mother figure as Homelander's tendency to fall for slightly older or only physically young women is, but simply is Ben's preference. Soldier Boy just still goes for ladies closer to his age even though he can pull young bombshells just as easily. He is mostly effortlessly charming to any woman he desires and his lovers are satisfied in bed by him (despite what lousy editing would imply). He gets to say cool lines. He gets to be clever in fights and never runs even when he should, which is brave and not ever lampshaded as stupid. When he is outsmarted, he still looks cool and always comes out the other side all right in the end anyway. He doesn't fret and cry after losing like Homelander does, he gets mad and he gets even. He has some cringe aspects but he does not slide toward the level where he becomes Irredeemable. It doesn't matter that Ben is as much an unrepentant monster as his son or that he is nihilistic and cruel. Soldier Boy is Redeemable because he is more Cool than he is Cringe.
To further illustrate my point, I only need look at fan and fan-to-fan responses now and how they compare across media.
There is a trend of thought, mostly among the male audience, that it is silly to expect every villain to be redeemed. I agree with this. It is perfectly acceptable for there to be stories that are good versus evil and for the evil to be uncomplicatedly vanquished in those stories. It is also more than acceptable for a villain's life and death to be framed as tragic but for their fall to need to happen anyway to resolve the story. That's all well and good. However, sometimes this cry for simplicity is misdirected. As it is when it comes to Homelander.
Homelander was not pure evil or really intentionally evil at all as he was never given anyone good to model morality from. He did what he was created to do and then he acted out in the destructive manners he knew. Still, he was not a born evil creature the way a Tolkien Orc is. Some fans treat him as if he was though. Granted, that is how the show tries to treat him via not letting anyone that might care learn anything solid about his past and by neglecting to explore it further in season 5. Even though the writers claimed to be tying up loose ends they failed to reveal Barbara Findley's fate (something even Antony Starr was uncertain of), because they wanted Homelander's past out of the audience's mind so they could kill their Trump parody.
It is a bit ironic how Homelander and other Cringe villains are treated in comparison to, say, Darth Vader or Roy Batty. Even though those men's plights and sins are really not so different from Homelander's. They both killed and tortured many people. Darth Vader also killed children and stood by while an entire populated planet was obliterated. Yet no fan will argue that Darth Vader should have died evil rather than return to the Light right at the end. No fan will argue that Roy Batty's final lines were unnecessary and took away from the narrative weight of Blade Runner. Because Darth Vader and Roy Batty, despite their struggles, flaws, and pain, were Cool Characters. They got that redemption because they were awesome, strong, brave, and powerful. They did not cross the Irredeemably Cringe line.
Not like Homelander did. His lack of Coolness is what doomed him to a brutal death without any last minute Redemptive Act or Tragic Framing. That is the cost of the Irredeemablility of Cringe.
Do you think there are conspiracy theories in The Boys universe revolving around what made Homelander snap?
For over 20 years to the public he was the paragon of virtue. Most famous, most loved, great guy. Apple pie America, baseball, hope.
And then in the span of a few years he dates a Nazi, kills a guy, takes over the government and is killed by the CIA and Vought is now labelling him as mentally unwell.
The "I am better" speech just keeps playing on loop in their minds bcuz is clear he was telling some truth in there
Definitely.
There also has to be conspiracies around what happened to Ryan. That it was CIA agent Billy Butcher, the terrorist that was hunted for the murder of Madelyn Stillwell, that killed Homelander alongside a mysterious supe with ties to the terrorist group Shining Light and with the help of Ryan. A little digging and it will probably be revealed that Marvin Milk, a known associate of Billy Butcher and a government agent himself, has custody of Ryan now. Did these people kidnap Ryan from his European boarding school and brainwash him? Was Ryan MKUltra-ed?
...Was Homelander? Why did a CIA agent kill Madelyn Stillwell and why did the government pardon him and his accomplices for it? Was this all so that the government could curtail the power of a private corporation? Or was it all an attempt to take control of Compound V? Congress did reject Vought's contract for supes in the military not long after, did they just not like the price Vought was asking and decided they could just steal it instead via destroying Vought posterboy Homelander? Was the Flight 37 video that was released by Starlight, close affiliate of President Singer, and her Starlighters edited in an attempt to take heat off the government over their failure to prevent another terrorist hijacking and transfer the blame to poor beset Homelander?
Conspiracy theorists might end up sympathizing with Vought and wish for Ryan to be rescued by them from the government agents.
#FreeHomeBoy #LetOurSuperPeopleGo #VoughtIsRight
Honest to God, Homelander is not that mentally ill for what he's been through, there should be no way that after such levels of biblical torture he's even able to form coherent thoughts of any kind.
And I don't get why people expect him to just 'know better', like baby you'd need 10 psychiatrists to adress his first 5 minutes of life alone, he's never been taught 'better', he can't act 'better', he had a 'boling the subject alive for 1 hr 40 mins' scheduled on a random Thursday evening, what kind of positive life lesson was he supposed to learn from that, was that the moment he was supposed to start caring about humans?
Like, fym he was basically in solitary confinement for all his first 18 years of life, and just casually tortured for days on end in ways the human body is not even built to withstand for over 2 seconds, how tf is he even having casual conversations of any kind, anybody else in his place would be behaving like a chimpanzee on methamphetamine 24/7, he should be sliming everybody out without a single thought, on SIGHT.
right exactly and then after this stuff, on top of it all, as if he needed MORE trauma, he gets madelyn grooming the shit out of him. and i've seen so many people dismiss their relationship as being insignificant to his upbringing, but it was SO significant and you see that especially if you look at how weirdly normal he is in Diabolical before she starts grooming him. like sure, he's not great at taking accountability and he's jealous and paranoid, but first of all, he was 17-18, he was a teenager, most normal real teenagers with no horrible traumatizing childhoods are worse than he is in those aspects, and second of all, i'd argue that he wouldn't have done anything about the jealousy and paranoia (and then his first save wouldn't have been so botched because he wouldn't have had the idea so solidified in his head that if he doesn't make it perfect, noir would take his place and he'd lose his image as homelander and as a hero and every other part of his identity with it) if it weren't for madelyn getting in his head about it and feeding into all of his fears about the world being out to get him and other superheroes trying to sabotage him and her being the only one he can trust and him losing his place as vought's golden boy if he let noir take the spotlight. like we know for a fact that vought neevverr would've given up on homelander, at least not at that point, but madelyn talks to him like they would've if he wasn't perfect and if he let noir be better than him. so he fucked his first save and rushed in to try to do it all before noir got there, and then catastrophized and killed everyone when he accidentally made a gun explode, and then made it worse when noir DID get there by chasing him down trying to kill him, because he was scared of losing everything his whole life was for. BECAUSE MADELYN GAVE HIM THAT IDEA. and then don't even get me started on how she fucked up his idea of intimacy and sex.
Honest to God, Homelander is not that mentally ill for what he's been through, there should be no way that after such levels of biblical torture he's even able to form coherent thoughts of any kind.
And I don't get why people expect him to just 'know better', like baby you'd need 10 psychiatrists to adress his first 5 minutes of life alone, he's never been taught 'better', he can't act 'better', he had a 'boling the subject alive for 1 hr 40 mins' scheduled on a random Thursday evening, what kind of positive life lesson was he supposed to learn from that, was that the moment he was supposed to start caring about humans?
Like, fym he was basically in solitary confinement for all his first 18 years of life, and just casually tortured for days on end in ways the human body is not even built to withstand for over 2 seconds, how tf is he even having casual conversations of any kind, anybody else in his place would be behaving like a chimpanzee on methamphetamine 24/7, he should be sliming everybody out without a single thought, on SIGHT.
Literally thank you so much, you are so right and it pisses me off to no end that more people donāt get this.
Humans are not actually born with an innate moral compass pointing north to what is right and what is wrong. We develop principles of morality by experience! By observing, in childhood, the principals and values of our communities and mimicking and adopting them as we grow up! Morals are not an objective truth in nature, they are taught!
Homelander was born into a community that normalized his submitting to incomprehensible and unending agony and exploitation for the entirety of his adolescence. Which was done all simply for profit in the entertainment industry.
How could he have chosen to be good when the only morals he was raised alongside, were those of the scientists who tormented him everyday simply because they could.
And thatās not even touching on the specific torture he experienced that no other human being on earth ever could.
We might be able comprehend the pain of hypothetically burning alive. We cannot comprehend the pain of burning alive perpetually without end. That should have completely broken his mind into something akin to an animal.
Just burning and burning and burning without dying, impassive eyes watching coldly from the other side, uncaring ears listening to the screams of a child burning in a crematorium, with nerve-endings never charring away to numbness but enduring and sending a non-stop signal to a little childās brain to āget away from this, it is painful, you are in danger,ā but with no actual way to escape the pain of burning, not even in death.
Is that not literally how we describe actual Hell?
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Homelander is female-coded by the writing, and I am not sure if it's on purpose or not, but he gets typical "female" b-plots.
Disclaimer: I am well aware most of these "female" b-plots are highly sexist and outdated, but this is Eric's show, and we have all seen Supernatural.
His journey into being a parent. Now, there is a trend that's been going on for many years now of "grizzled man takes in orphan kid and becomes a better guy through becoming that kid's foster father", but that is Butcher's storyline here, not Homelander's. No, Homelander gets the storyline of the parent who wishes for motherhood parenthood and openly bemoans his fertility problems, and then when he actually has offspring, becomes a very affectionate parent who defines himself through his role.
His storyline of being an aging superstar. The main comparison the show draws is SATC, which has a female main cast, to showcase that Homelander has work done on his face in the editing room. The Substance, anyone? I definitely believed part of his Season 4 storyline would be abusing V to keep himself pretty. Add Ryan to the mix, and you have: Queen you shall be, until there comes another, younger and more beautiful- It's never about kings.
The commodification. He gets dehumanised, turned into a pretty thing to be seen, not heard. Admired, not taken seriously.
So yes. Homelander is one of the girls. Strangely. I like it, though. It's a good subversion to give these stereotypical plots to a man.
antony talking about how heād tell the homelander doll "you are enough" :^( and i really love how much empathy he has for homie, i mean how can he not when he built this character off his trauma and pain.
here is him talking about what homelander's playlist would be called:
like plssss he is one of us, he always makes sure to speak about how deeply troubled homelander is and how much pain he is in. and he did a great job portraying it.
in conclusion i'm glad despite the writing, antony continued to make sure he was playing homelander with his pain and trauma at the centre of it, that he didn't work from the outside in (he says how he never took influence from trump, always focused on what homelander was feeling in that moment) because that is what it was all about. homelander in the show is who he is because of trauma
WHAT I need to find that first interview that is absolutely adorable
antony treats homelander so gently and tenderly. I love that he gets him and how HLās trauma is the core of who he is. Iāve said this before about how he keeps talking about how HL is just a little boy that needs a hug and itās just so sweet
at the 2023 FYC panel he said
āAt the base of it allāthis is gonna sound a little corny, bear with meābut itās just a little boy that wants love, and thatās the Achilles heel.ā
I love this panel (they talk about some really interesting stuff about Annie and MM) but hereās another great antony quote
āIāve always looked at my guy as the weakest character in the show, despite being the strongest, right, because heās emotionally buckled [ā¦] heās in emotional suspended animation at, 14 or something, so he craves connectionāhe has always wanted that.ā
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WHATS HE DOIN WITH ALL THAT ASS DOUBLE CHEEKED UP ON A THURSDAY AFTERNOON THE SUN STILL UP
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Absolutely LOVE how this is the panel right after
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