Rolani

[spider-defence-squad]

It will never not be funny to me when all the tiktok haters bitch and moan about Spider "surely being a traitor" or secretly "plotting against the Sullies" like??? My brother in Christ, I hate to break it to you but if that kid really wanted Jake and his family dead, they'd already be with Eywa.

[holyraconteur]

Of course, the more I watch the sacrifice scene, the angrier I get because even the way Jake spoke to Spider and led him off into the forest was like a dog owner gently coaxing his old, troubled pet off into the trees to be put down. That's how little Spider meant to him. By the end of the day, Spider was just a troublesome pet Jake tried and failed to abandon on the side of the road, and when that didn't work, he resorted to putting him down because he was just becoming too troublesome to take care of.

[holyraconteur]

Avatar "fans" on TikTok giggling and chortling over the possibility that Neytiri hid Spider's mask and going, "LOL, she wanted him GONE! I would have done the same thing! So valid!" as if it's the funniest thing ever…

Okay. Now apply that same logic to real life.

Let's see how funny it is when someone hides your inhaler. Or your EpiPen. Or any other piece of life-sustaining medical equipment you rely on to breathe and survive.

Spider's exopack isn't just a cool sci-fi accessory. It's damn near medical equipment. Without it, he dies. But y'all already knew that, right? Otherwise, you wouldn't be laughing and whining that Neytiri should have hidden it better.

But sure. Hilarious.

[mariberrypie]

Do you think Agott also finds it cute when Coco does this

Coco is a professional in cute head tilting... Stay strong Agott

[madlads01]

I don't know if I'm a hater if I say that Neytiri is getting glazed by this community and Spider receives so much hate that some people think what Neytiri did for years was okay. What she did wasn't okay. She was literally a racist. "But she lost so much to humans!" Yeah sure, but tell me what she lost to Spider? What did Spider ever take away from her? What did he ever do to her? Tell me. I'll be waiting.

[sunkissedangelic]

[sidoniemoon]

The most insane takes I've seen coming out of the TADC finale discourse is how some ppl are treating Jax like s/he's Russell Brand or Andy Dick or some other irl celebrity with allegations attached to them, and therefore should never have gotten a redemption arc... something that somehow warrants a bad review. Also calling her/him an "abuser" or "misogynist"- as if they're terms we can throw around so casually (they're not)- instead of, idk, a run-of-the-mill bully at most. Can we not have our fun with morally flawed fictional characters anymore?

[mintaii]

coco, child of hope... 🌠 🖋️

[introspectivememories]

passively suicidal spider who keeps pushing back the date because lo'ak needed him that day or kiri wanted to lay down in the valley and listen to eywa or tuktuk dragged him on an adventure or neteyam slipped him some berries he liked and eventually he stops trying but the thought never really leaves him. the sky is blue, eclipses happen, and spider won't actively kill himself but he's not going to stop it from happening if someone does it for him. and then the rda brain melt machine happens and well he loses track of time and memories slip through his fingers like sand and his head hurts all the time and when he finally gets a modicum of himself back he thinks to himself, we win the war, we watch tuktuk complete her iknimaya, and then we go find the nearest tree, lay down on a branch, and go to sleep forever.

[moon000e]

Its Ukrainian vyshyvanka day! Hehe

[hoffywaffy]

just saw the sheep detective

very beautiful very sad very gay

I cried ALOT

[introspectivememories]

thinking about the lo'ak-spider brotherisms of it all...... the way they're both outcasts...... the way they're both full of demon blood...... the way they both have severe daddy issues.......the way they both use humor to cope with everything........ the way they're both suicidal...... the way they both want what the other person has..... the way they both think the other person has it better..... the way they light up when they see each other..... [spider getting cuffed] lo'ak! you alright? / [lo'ak getting bodyslammed to the boat deck] yeah cuz, never been better....... the way they both carry guilt over neteyam's death....... the way they're one of the only people to really See each other...... both defiant and reckless to a fault...... the son of the savior of the People and the son of genocidal maniac who tried to colonize pandora..... what must it have been like to grow up with such a high standing and still be a freak? what must it have been like to grow up knowing there is something wrong about who you came from and still be a freak on top of all that?....... the way they're both suicidal!!!!........ them finding comfort in each other...... hey you have 5 fingers too! and eyebrows! and our noses are similar too!.... you're just like me, i'm just like you!.... #fivefingeredfreaks4life ...... spider teaching lo'ak how to flip someone off and how to throw a punch..... lo'ak teaching spider how to hunt.... them making stupid jokes that no one else gets and having a million inside jokes..... mo'at's lecturing lo'ak and from the back he catches spider's eye and it takes all of eywa's will to not burst out laughing........ there's definitely a photo of both of them throwing up the middle finger with their tongues sticking out somewhere in the jungle..... they're twins your honor. i rest my case

[dirtytransmasc]

Rocky and Grace accidentally found Pandora on the way back to Rocky's planet and now they take vacations to visit Spider.

they go see their little pebble, who (in my reality. ignoring the fact that their two systems are nowhere near each other) saved Grace, by not immediately shooting him in the face, and building him a little fort to hide out in at first, and keeping the others from shooting him in the face, and helping him find food for his trip to Erid.

Grace obviously helps Pandora save their sun, he'll need out with Norm and Max and figure out how to get taumoeba out to their star, and what not. so Spider doesn't have to hide him forever.

but he does at first. when Grace is a random crashed shuttle that barely survived it's fall through a sense patch of forest. he's curious and afraid and has no time to go get other scouts, especially if this is RDA, so he approaches, bow ready.

but he quickly finds Grace and Rocky. and they're clearly no threat. Rocky is... so strange. but he's grown up with blue feline aliens, so... he adjusts quick. and Grace needs a mask, his ship has oxygen, but that's only going to stretch so far. and Rocky is chirping at him while Grace dazedly— the man looks half dead, all skinny and weird colored and... withered —resets his translator.

and Spider decides he'll help them, cause... he doesn't see a reason not to. he helps Grace out of Mary. he's scarily fragile. and him and Rocky have to really manuever him out.

and Spider sets to making him a really nice fort and getting him water and tending his various injuries from his crash landing and the whole starving thing that's made him pretty fragile.

Rocky thinks this human is so amaze amaze amaze. because he's so kind. he's so helpful! so interesting, how he is human like Grace, but nothing like Grace! Grace is so shy about his body and privacy, when Spider— fun fun fun name. like Earth bug —is not. Grace cringes at the thought of being offered "Na'vi clothes" by Spider. it's funny. Spider is so different then all the human things Rocky has learned about Grace. Terran humans and Pandoran humans are so different. Grace lived in an apartment and had a job and technology. Spider lives in a "mauri" whenever he can and has a bow and a knife and hunts and gathers and only uses tech when he has to. tech doesn't "belong on Pandora", he says. interesting interesting interesting. and he wears jewelry like Rocky! and he speaks a different language then Grace and Rocky. and even his English is weird when he does speak Grace's language. nice but weird. kinda like how Rocky's English is weird. and Spider thinks Rocky is sick sick sick, but apparently that's cool!

and Grace... oh he missed kids. he missed kids really bad. he was always better with kids then other adults. and this kid is great. he's so smart, but still loves it learn and is asking Grace surprisingly complex questions about space and astrophage and Rocky and taumoeba. and same with Rocky, asking about Erid and quickly realizing he's the smarter of the two, and teasingly snubbing Grace to ask Rocky questions instead. he's fun and cheeky. and... having missed seeing another human for so long, and then this one shows up, with blonde hair like his, and just... looking sorta like him... maybe his desperation to connect with him makes that bond naturally paternal.

"Grace imprint on similar pebble, Grace cute when he imprints on pebble"

"Rocky no–"

cue Spider tearing up, cause this guy likes him that much? and he's hugging Grace really tight. so tight, maybe forgetting about the whole malnourished thing, that he almost breaks one of his ribs. but Grace just pats his head.

and Spider got him food. good food. better than taumoeba slurries. Grace watches him hunt and gather around the forest and bring it back to him. he's so smart (Grace is literally crying).

and eventually they get his strength back enough that Spider thinks he'll survive meeting the resistance.

and the rest is history. saying goodbye to each other so Rocky can go back to Erid and save his star and see Adrian is hard. there's lots of hugs. and Grace feels like he's losing a child (even if this child is twice his size). and Spider doesn't want him to leave, doesn't want Rocky to leave. but he knows they have to. they leave with new jewelry and a stock of food. Spider has xenonite charms and maybe a blade or something.

but because their systems are TOTALLY neighbors. once Grace is healthy and Erid is safe and Rocky has rekindled his relationship with Adrian enough to take trips, they make trips to come see Spider every few years and totally find a way to pass messages to each other (because I said so)

[dirtytransmasc]

I want a full comic series that explores the fact that Spider is not Terran. he has like... a half Terran upbringing, on account of the scientists. but most of them have tried adapting to the Na'vi ways.

like being with the recoms had to be a mindfuck. at all times. his social norms would be so different then the squads. they're all modest and Terran-y and he's... not. he's happy to roam the forest in nothing but his loincloth and spend his days tending for himself. while they're scandalized when he's walking around base "half naked", and cracking jokes he doesn't get, and relying on the RDA's forces to just about anything, even get a drink of water.

maybe at bridgehead, he sees some of the civilian families that surrendered (High Ground), and even if he, a prisoner, isn't allowed to interact with them. maybe he sneaks to try and see if he can find the McCosker boys (he grew up with them, he probably misses them). maybe he watches from afar. it's so clear the difference between them, no matter what.

and even compared to Jake and Norm and Max. I'd love to see how he sticks out amongst them. the little habits and quirks that the terrans still have, even in their blue bodies. while Spider, and his pink skin, lacks them entirely. while Spider's first instincts have always been very Na'vi in nature. even if it's just the way he'll crane his neck like the Na'vi would flick an ear at a sound, where the humans and once humans still turn their entire head. or the way he moves to perch on everything like a feline, while, even to this day, neither Norm nor Jake can fully trust even their avatar joints to allow that. he speaks differently then them, in either language. he knows how to use tech and human utensils and guns, but you can tell that the workings of Na'vi tools and eating with his hands or with only a knife and a bow come so much more naturally. while the avatars are stuck between both worlds, having preferences so clearly defined in them.

it just. fascinates me as a concept.

[heyenjoy]

I hate to say it, but Spider haters and Neteyam’s fan/ glazers( mostly on TikTok, I haven’t interacted with the one on tumblr much ) caused me to develop an aversion/ hatred forward Neteyam.

Like whenever I see Neteyam I just immediately associate him with the haters or his fans and I start feeling annoyed or irritated by him even though I don’t hate his character, which upset me because I don’t like to hate characters because of their fans insufferable behaviour

[humbleonslaughtillusion]

The slow decline of spider Socorro centric fanfic makes me sad. :(

[cattywompus2]

me sitting at my computer and clicking refresh every 30 seconds on the “miles spider Socorro needs a hug” tag