jonni b good

jonni, 22, INTP, he/him, bi, latino (venezuelan), taken af. multifandom. writer. noob artist. current fandoms: dragon ball, jojo's bizarre adventure and team fortress 2.

[spicycaps]

Jurassic Park (1993) dir. Steven Speilberg

[pyrist]

[just-antithings]

miraculous ladybug fandom is becoming the voltron fandom in that it takes a children’s cartoon way too goddamn seriously and then inevitably ends up disappointed

[just-antithings]

I love miraculous ladybug but it has literally never had good writing, idk what y’all were expecting

[gothic1997]

[queerpyracy]

y’all remember when people used to make posts on this site complaining about their english teachers requiring them to like, actually do literary analysis

and how now we’ve got people who think all fiction has to be 100% morally upright and hand-holdy or else it will lead people into sin morally astray

i got a hypothesis that those two attitudes might be connected

[antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx]

I sorta wonder about the overall level of empathy in anti-antis at times. I dunno, I just don't see how you can like things like rape, torture, pedophilia etc, even when it's Totally Fictional, without having an actual problem with your brain.

Holy shit are you even aware of the level of ableism that just came out of your mouth

That shit aside, let me frame this another way

“I don’t know how anyone could enjoy slasher horror movies with gore and murder or action thrillers with torture and warfare and not have something wrong with their brain”

You sound fucking ridiculous on top of wildly ableist. I cannot literally believe any of you puritans, it’s like I’ve been transported back to the 1700’s and you can’t handle someone showing their ankle.

A picture of Anon presented without further comment

[leegle]

This is why pokemon is banned, because the entire fandom happily supports dogfighting and cockfighting and other animal blood sports.

[problematic-butnothateful]

fun fact about empathy levels in this anti-anti in particular! i oscillate between hypoempathy and hyperempathy with pretty much no middle ground and no way to predict what will happen next

i am, between the people i know, the only one who has the highest gore and similar creepy shit tolerance. i was that kid in middle school with a concerning knowledge of serial killers. i was in love with hannibal when it came out. there is inevitably that one moment with people who don’t know me well where they realize that yes, i do have a very weird amount of knowledge about some pretty niche things most people don’t consider very fun to talk about

i am also, between the people i know, the only one who has straight up fainted when presented with a vaguely disturbing scene. sometimes i have to physically turn away during scenes of movies and so on because i can almost feel the phantom pain of whatever the character are feeling on screen and i will drop to the ground if i keep looking

so, anon, allow me to be kind of skeptical of what the media people consume say about their amount of empathy. you ableist piece of shit.

[thecatdiscourses]

Tbh same. And your empathy levels say nothing about how you treat other people, you don’t need to actually empathize to not be an asshole.

Way to throw people with low or no empathy under the bus too, that says a lot more about you than it does about anyone who enjoys dark fiction. Dumbass

[asexyvirgin]

[nyctoheart]

i can’t believe superwholock existed as one the largest fandom(s) on this website. there hasn’t been a trace of it on my dashboard in years. No mention, no whisper. a ghost. i still follow people who reblogged it. i myself reblogged it. and yet here we are, not daring to ever mention it. im risking my life making this po

[sufficientlylargen]

For those new to this site, “Superwholock” was the crossover fandom for the overlap of three of the biggest individual fandoms on tumblr - soup, the Finnish municipality of Perho, and Enlightenment philosopher John Locke.

[derinthescarletpescatarian]

Guys listen. Listen. At the start of this year, the year of our lord 2019, I was chatting to an actor in this play I was stage managing and she mentioned offhand that she’s thinking of getting a tattoo.

“Oh,” I say. “Of what?”

She looks a bit awkward. “Um. Have you ever heard of this thing called Superwholock?”

Let me tell you I aged about twenty years in the span of the next ten seconds where she started to explain Superwholock to me like it’s some new thing that’s just spawned into existence and I know, instinctively, that I will not survive this conversation, I am not strong enough, so I cut her off. “Uh, yeah. I know of Superwholock. I’ve been on Tumblr for a while.”

“What’s Tumblr?” she asks.

Guys… I think Superwholock is still out there. They just changed home base. I didn’t ask where her Superwholock community was because there are some things beyond mortal ken, some things that would surely drive one mad should one attempt to find them.

[transgender-mp3]

Pinterest. It’s Pinterest.

[queen-of-dirt]

What is happening

[ghost-slut18]

as someone who recently moved from pinterest to Tumblr, I can assure you superwholock lives on along with merlin, lotr, and ur weird ass posts about wanting a fandom themed school. 

[sunshinesteves]

i’m getting war flashbacks

[athingofvikings]

Academically speaking, I still find the whole “anti-shipper” movement to be fascinating from a sociological perspective.

You have what amounts to a extremist purity cult whose beliefs align nearly precisely with those of Conservative American Christianity in terms of sexual purity politics (admittedly with some additional flourishes that I’ve watched develop in real time), but is mostly composed of minority members whose sexual-and-gender identities are opposed and oppressed by Conservative American Christianity.  Additionally, their tactics also mirror religious pro-censorship groups (such as Warriors For Innocence), but their rhetoric is entirely secularized and derived from leftist theory.

Did they arrive at this structure via convergent evolution?  Via socially dominant concepts in the greater socio-cultural space that they occupy?  I doubt it was by direct emulation but the possibility does exist on some levels.

[kallinite]

I’m literally doing my sociology research paper on them right now.

[athingofvikings]

Ooh? Go on.

[kallinite]

It’s a qualitative study looking at the ways that Tumblr antis define the word “pedophilia”. It’s pretty interesting stuff because the definitions are so unique to Tumblr anti culture. I’ll have to go through my coding more thoroughly, but I think I’ve broken them down into four categories:

1. Legality based arguments where they’re very stuck on the idea of Age of Majority. Usually these people believe that it’s pedophilia if an 18 year old dates a 17 year old because they view age 18 as a hard and fast line from childhood to adulthood.

2. Psychological-readiness based arguments are a lot more subjective. These people often use arguments about differing life stages as a reason to call something pedophilia. Some even bust out that “peoples brains don’t fully age until 25” factoid. For this group, age gaps are a real no-go, even if both partners are legally consenting adults. The acceptablity of age gaps varied.

3. Physical appearance based arguments are focused against people who like young looking or young acting characters, even if those characters are adults. These people define pedophilia as an attraction to the perception of youth. This belief is strongly correlated with anti-DD/LG posting.

4. I’m having trouble naming the fourth category. It’s based around an argument of sneaky pedophilia or maybe an uncovering of the fan creators hidden desires? These antis argue that aging up characters past canon ages and shipping them is pedophilia because they believe that the shipper REALLY wanted to ship the child but didn’t because they were worried it wasn’t socially acceptable. In this instance, the character is portrayed as an adult by fandom and there is nothing childish in their appearance or mannerism. Because the character was depicted as a child in canon, however, the anti believes that the character must always be depicted that way in fandom and that only tricky pedophiles would be interested in exploring that character’s future.

Similarly, I noticed a newer trend of calling adult ships between people who canonically knew each other as children/teens to be called pedophilia or at the very least jailbaity, predatory behaviour. This is particularly true when the characters are a couple years apart. The idea there is that, if they knew each other as children, they’d never be able to see each other as adults. So if they have sex as adults, they’re mentally thinking of the child version of their partner and are therefore a pedophile. I wonder if this is a projection of the beliefs from #4. Perhaps it is the antis who, once introduced to a child/teen, are never able to see them as anything but a child and therefore they believe that everyone else must feel the same? That’s only a guess. I only saw this one a handful of times and it was all pretty recently, so I didn’t include it in the data for my paper. It does seem to indicate a level of escalation in these definitions though. I’ll have to check in again at a later date and see if it sticks around.

[athingofvikings]

I’ve seen all of those as well, and I’d be fascinated to see your results when you’re published.

As for names for the fourth category, can I suggest Canonical Stasis arguments?  As in, “the characters are forever frozen at the ages that they are presented”.

[ruffboi-mags]

This is fascinating.

Infuriating as always, but fascinating.

[ms-demeanor]

Maybe I’m just new to the particular depths of this discourse but I’ve recently found out about criticisms of some ships that has cross-pollination between types 2 and 4 in defining ships as incestuous because characters are “sibling coded”??

Reminds me strongly of the Reylo antis who insist that Reylo is shipping pedophilia because of the age difference between the actors.

(also repeating the purity spiral - can’t let the teens be alone unsupervised, if Sally and Bobby are left unattended they might develop pantsfeels and since they’ve been friends since childhood that would be inappropriate and therefore must be prevented)

[feotakahari]

There was a point in time when TV Tropes banned entries about an NSFW Tangled fic. The fic was about adults who are canonically married, but because the target audience for Tangled was children, the fic was considered “pedo porn.”

[ethereal-business-cabaret]

I don’t know if canonical statis necessarily explains #4. #4 (and really all of them, but especially #4) seems to be reflective of this idea that “monsters” have very specific characteristics, tastes, and values - that you can always spot a monster using various tells. And if they dare do something like what #4 suggests, they are hiding those tells, so they are extra monstrous. There is likely a very real anxiety around not being able to tell offhand who is safe and who isn’t, about predators that hide in the midst. “You never know who you’re talking to on the internet!!! They may be GROOMING YOU!!” This may seem to be an attempt at unmasking these predators, these monsters - but, as someone who’s had the misfortune of knowing such monsters first-hand, it’s not particularly effective.

[kallinite]

I was originally thinking something similar. That’s why I had written it down as “sneaky pedophile” at first. lol Upon further reflection, however, I think that canonical stasis is more accurate. That pedophiles have specific tells and that aging up is an attempt to subvert those tells is the argument. The underlying belief for that to work, however, is that canonical ages must remain static. Otherwise the argument falls apart. 

That is similar to the reason I went with a psychological readiness label for #2. Originally I had just put down “age gaps”, but age gap only encompasses the argument. The underlying belief for the problematic elements of age gaps is that one partner is psychologically/emotionally unready for the relationship. This strikes at the core of the concern, which is the perceived power imbalance between the partners. This power imbalance is then sometimes conflated with pedophilia. Age gaps are just one of the ways this is expressed. Other arguments in a similar vein are that the characters are in differing life stages or that the characters brain is not yet fully developed (some psychological studies suggest that the human brain is still developing up until age 25, so some people argue that people under 25 are still too young for relationships with older adults).

[kallinite]

The paper is done! Check out my Tumblr post for the link!

[peachcookie]

op and all the comments on this post have brain worms

[athingofvikings]

Gotta love how they just respond with insults.  And by “love”, I mean “time to block another one.”

[nyxelestia]

Really looking forward to all this. I also wanted to add a very subtle way in which these mindsets have also started to affect real life people / influence how puritanical antis have started to view the world: the weird insistence I started to get to a funny old story that in denying my supposed “victimization” between my adult self and another adult, I was supporting the perpetuation of pedophilia. I scened with an older guy at a BDSM club, including sexual activity. Afterwards, the guy’s friend and the host of the party came up to me and asked, “Hey, did anyone check your ID at the door? You look so young, I want to make sure you’re safe.” I do look very young - I’m on a fast track to thirty and people still ask me what grade I’m in - so I’m used to stuff like this. This was a generally funny moment for me, and I had a good time that night. The closest thing to duplitious intent I could imagine of those men is the typical “implying a woman looks young to flatter her” cliche - and to be honest, I fully expect that was basically happening here, since BDSM communities tend to have a culture of safety, with a built-in way for interrupting scenes if someone might be in danger (i.e. safewords, DM’s, etc.) But what frustrated me about telling this cute story online was how people started to say that these guys must be pedophiles, because if I really look so young, then what does it say about them that they enjoyed sexual activity with me? This was a real life instance of people projecting those last two types of pedophilia definitions onto me. In theory, if this were pedophilia, I would be the “victim”, both for being chronologically younger than these men, and for looking so significantly younger. It’s particularly infuriating because their worldview is effectively punishing me for appearing the wrong age - which is typical of misogynistic and patriarchal ideals of feminine appearance. Women must be punished for looking the “wrong” age, and while we normally see this as woman being devalued for appearing older than the ‘ideal woman’, this also certainly felt like an instance of being punished for appearing younger than the ‘ideal woman’. Under this logic, I, a 100% consenting adult, can never have sexual activity with anyone, ever. Any actual adult who participates with me is only doing so out of a secret desire to have sex with a child and using me as a substitute, so even if we’re both enthusiastically consenting adults, I’m perpetuating or enabling pedophilia. Meanwhile, if I were to have sexual activity with someone who actually is the chronological age I appear as, they would be minors and thus I would be the predator. The growth of purity culture in fandom, on Tumblr, and the social media world in general is starting to influence how people view real world sexual activity - and the real life people having it.

[shippy-mcdiscourse]

You should never have to feel bad for your ships. They’re fictional and the mean next to nothing in reality.

[your-fave-is-pro-ship]

psa

sexual fanfic of Real children is not counted under pro-shipping and that is Actually child pornography, since its, ya know, A REAL CHILD

[princessesdiscourse]

I hope you’re reblogging this because you care about the kids this is about and not because an anti was roasted on it

[problematiquehell-inactive]

!!!!

[antiantiautie]

honestly the more antis in fandom kick up a fuss about ‘shipping bad ships’ the more time i spend actually thinking about those dynamics and finding them interesting lol

[cydippida]

whose gonna tell terfs that reducing women to genitalia and reproductive ability is just plain misogyny and that they’ve never been real feminists in the first place

[informative-feminist]

Back when I started this blog, when I was still a minor (16), and I knew nothing about feminism except that it was for women’s rights, a very prominent terf took me under her wing and began indoctrinating me. At the time I thought I just had a nice online friend, but now that I’m a bit older, wiser, and more educated, I can see that she was grooming me. Not in a sexual way, but she was grooming me to become a terf and stay away from the inclusive circles that I’m in now.

Please reblog this for the sake of your young/new followers. Before you start following or interacting with a blog, check who it is! Terfs are scary, hateful, and dangerous - mostly to trans women but also to nb people, trans men, and people on the aro/ace spectrum. Please don’t get pulled into their circles.

[villainsinmybed]

Look-alike villains turned heroes who deserved better.

[ohcaptain1mycaptain]

Hot take none of these men deserved better they all got redemption arcs and that’s literally all they’ve earned.

Snape? Ex wizard nazi who murdered people and was gonna let an infant get murdered because he didn’t get fucked and he was a racist and kinda an incel? Amazing character. Shitty human.

Loki: done dirty but not everybody who’s done dirty tried to be a mass murderer. Ok character, shitty human.

Kyle Ron? Killed his own dad. Not even hitler, just hitlers bitch boy. Incel as fuck. Did one nice thing the whole trilogy. Good character, shitty human.

Just the tea

[octopuscato]

How the fuck did you even get on my blog? Piss off. And use some other place than OP’s gifset to sermonise. Nobody who’s a fan of them needs your negativity.

[antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx]

Can we fucking PLEASE stop calling fictional characters Nazis when they don’t literally support the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, aka what Nazi literally means.

Hitler doesn’t fucking exist in Star Wars, and Wizards gave all of two shits about WWII (which happened long after the advent of blood purity wars).

People who are Nazis: people who support Hitler/antisemitism/white supremacy.

People who are not Nazis: FICTIONAL MAGIC DICTATORS.

[moosopp-art]

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I got to be KatQuasar’s (On twitter) Santa and they asked for domestic yamtien ;U;

[dispicable-artist]

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