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I always laugh when Stiles is portrayed as this innocent too-gooder that is always the victim when he's completely the opposite.
Let's even forget the popular things he's done. Remember when they were trying to find the beast during the charity game and he was yanking everybody's shoes out in an irritated way as if 'they' were ones disturbing him. The way he really struggled with Sydney's leg and had the audacity to give a bitch face as if he wasn't the one yanking her leg!
He's so funny because what was that haha
My favourite was that scene in S3 E5, where they're on the bus, and Stiles in a desperate attempt to get the bus pulled over and save his boyfriend's life, gets the guy with motion sickness (THAT IS GREENBERG, I JUST KNOW IT, CAUSE COACH HATES HIM WITH A BURNING PASSION). The mischievously wicked look on his face as he sits down, that was GOLD
Scott? Can you do something?
#i was so messed up over this scene everyone #and the completely unquestioning unfaltering way he administers healing #and experiences death vicariously and REELS from it #in a better show we might’ve talked about this and what it means for scott #instead of making it about nogitsune-stiles’ and his appetite for chaos and overwrought grimdarkness #but how scott escorts someone from life to death and makes it painless for them #takes the brunt of the agony on himself and holds it close and doesn’t stop moving #HE IS TERRIFIED #and it’s treated with no gravity? #no biggie jeff davis. not like your hero protag just helplessly experienced HIS NIGHTMARE #and was given no time or space to react and process it. business as usual here at teen wolf. #sweetest baby empath you deserve so much better #sunshine prince scott mccall (via digivolvin)
Teen wolf s4 but they actually deal with the trauma and mess that the nogistune left them in.
Stiles is shown to go for therapy and medical check ups because his body took a brunt from the possession. Him constantly feeling cold and being on the road to painkiller addiction with the amount of pills he chokes on to numb the pain he took from other people when possessed but the pain isn't actually there; it's phantom. Him possibly developing an eating disorder because void wasn't exactly making stops at diners to eat. So his body kinda develops a disorder. Stiles also starts hanging out with his friends less, particularly Scott, and isolating himself due to guilt and him having difficulty grieving Allison because he feels he doesn't deserve to. Nightmares of void, obviously. Stiles might also start drinking. Stiles starts having impostor syndrome because of the possession.
Scott feeling guilty about hanging out with Kira and developing feelings for her because of Allison and their friendship actually taking more time. Scott avoiding school because he's the focus of attention due to the fact that his ex girlfriend died in front of him so he's the center of gossip. Scott losing control due to grief and also because he can feel Stiles distancing himself so he also feels alone so he's conflicted because as much as he wants to give Stiles space, he also wants his bestie back. Scott might not start drinking or chugging pills like Stiles, but he might start taking pain at a very concerning rate. To the point where he's almost constantly in pain. So frequent visits to hospitals and self harm just to feel the buzz. His grades slipping and him struggling mentally without actually realising he is. There's also a phantom wound of where the onis stabbed him in the chest and void twisting it. Eventually, he starts sneaking into Stiles' room for comfort which kinda mends the gap.
Kira and Noshiko dealing with assassin issues because void might have doxxed Noshiko to all her enemies over the centuries or decades and making the Yukimuras a target. Kira develops a bond with Stiles because she's new so she's easier to talk to than the others. They actually have fun and her friendship with Stiles helps him, and obviously, he initiates her and they start playing pranks on people. She also urges him to talk to Scott.
Lydia and Kira having a tense relationship because it almost feels like she's replacing Allison. But Kira is there for her and makes it clear that she'll never replace Allison or the bond she and Lydia had. So Lydia and Kira form an entirely new and different bond alongside Malia. Malia and Kira helping Lydia through grief of not just Allison, but also Aiden who is the second guy she has lost over the span of a couple of months. For instance, her having a banshee prediction and them staying the night so she won't be alone. Lydia also subconsciously flinching from Stiles' touch because of that particular time he abducted her and emotionally taunted her. So she learns to relax under his touch.
This might be my bias but Kira being the glue in s4 makes so much sense. Her being there enough to understand their pain and offer a shoulder to cry on for everyone. And she's not particularly linked to the trauma they all sustained so it makes it easier for them to relate with her and actually befriend. It also helps that she's a freaking ray of sunshine. Light after darkness type of situation. She also helps Malia with school, with socialising with society and also learning control. But she's also conflicted about whether to crowd them with comfort or give them space and time. She also sustains insecurity and mistrust for her supernatural side because of how her mother and void turned out. So the fear of making life altering choices or turning dark haunts her.
(Not sure why but liam feels like baby after so much darkness. Like Katniss and Peeta having children after the war, except it's the mccall pack adopting him instead. Child of hope kinda situation)
I get emotional over simple things. Like Scott saying “everything that’s happened to us” to Stiles after he gets his tattoo.
Us. Always us, we, them, “the both of you.” Scott said he wanted something permanent, and you’d think that would be Stiles, right? Because they’re each others’ constant. But Stiles can’t quite be his permanent thing because Stiles is already the default, and everything that happens to him happens to Stiles too. On another friendship it might be the height of arrogance to assume that someone is going to always be there despite any danger, but with them it would be far more insulting to suggest that Stiles wouldn’t be. As if Stiles would ever be willing to watch from the sidelines (he has enough experience with that, thanks, and he hates it).
But even after years of being one half of a matching set, Scott might not have started out with this surety. The morning after his first full moon found him wandering around outside the woods by himself. He’s sixteen and he’s just had the most terrifying and confusing night of his life. He’s shirtless and cold and he’s still trying to wrap his head around everything that happened: haunted by the panic and fear over transforming against his will, the feeling of becoming a monster, the memory of being pinned to a tree and probably thinking, for the first time in his young life, that he was going to die, that someone was going to kill him; rubbing his arm and remembering the pain of a crossbow bolt piercing through it, equally scared over the fact that it's completely healed-
-and wondering what the hell he’s going to do next, what his life is going to be now but just trying to put one foot in front of the other because he’s got miles to go until he reaches home. He probably feels very small and alone.
But then Stiles’ Jeep pulls up behind him. Stiles probably pushed the passenger door open and made some stupid joke about picking Scott up on the side of the road and shrugged off his blazer and handed it to him, and it’s warm from his own body and feels good on Scott’s bare skin and Stiles doesn’t look at him like he’s a monster.
And he doesn’t say “You can do this” or “You’ll be fine.” He says, unquestioningly determined, “We’ll get through this.” We, us, together, always, because it doesn’t matter to Stiles that Scott’s the one who got bitten, not him. They have joint custody over each other’s lives.
I’m not sure either are ever getting out of the relationship. They’re right where they want to be.
Scott's Dark Arc in Season 4
I’ve seen fans of Teen Wolf wonder when Scott was going to go through his ‘dark arc.’ After all, Derek and Allison had theirs in Season 2. Stiles had his in Season 3B. My belief is that Season 4 was Scott’s dark arc; it simply didn’t look like the others and so it didn’t look like what the audience was expecting. You see, Scott was never going to turn into an obvious monster. Instead, he was going to turn into his father.
To elaborate, Scott was never going to become a serial killer. He was never going to install his pack as a tyrannical regime with himself as the Holy Lord at its apex. He was never going to abandon his friends or innocent people. His arc was never going to be that cliché. Instead, it was going to be something every person has to grapple with sooner or later.
Scott’s dark arc was about making excuses.
After all, Rafael McCall made plenty of excuses. He drank to deal with his job. He abandoned his family because he made a mistake. He stalled an impeachment process, playing with Noah’s life, simply to find a way to talk to his son. He was going to bail on that very same chance because Scott wasn’t immediately receptive to him. Rafael always had an excuse not to do what he should have done. He wasn’t a fiend either. He was neglectful but not cruel. Callous but not sadistic. Absent but not a dead beat. In a way, he’s a much more practical, realistic antagonist. Which is why Rafael’s redemption, his attempt to make up for his mistakes wasn’t fighting the good fight but “I’m keeping my promises this time.”
As fans of Scott McCall (as well as Derek and Deaton and Kira) have pointed out, Scott’s heroism doesn’t come from having the right answer or being the mightiest warrior, it comes from him never giving up. I don’t really need to repeat the speech from The Divine Move (3x24) do I? What Season 4 gives is opportunities, temptations for Scott to give himself an out.
It starts in Muted (4x03). After the terror, pain, and loss of the first three seasons, Scott is ready for this semester to settle down. He’s going to play lacrosse, he’s going to date Kira, and he’s going to start working toward his future. As he tells Derek in I.E.D. (4x05), “this was the semester I was supposed to be able to focus on school again,” but what he really means is that this is the season when he gets to be who he always wanted to be.
So, it’s very fitting that his dark arc starts with him injuring Liam out of frustration at tryouts. In Season 1, him wanting to get a good night’s sleep before tryouts serves as the dividing line between who he was and who he was forced to become. As the action starts, he’s eager to have something for himself, which Stiles tells him is okay, but throughout the episode, we sees Scott’s frustration grow as he sees that chance taken by a cocky freshman. Scott is confronted with the opportunity to make his first excuse. While using the alpha power would be cheating, it’s his power, earned through pain and suffering. Stiles, as Stiles often does, points out that it’s not fair that Liam might “steal all your glory after you worked your tushie off.”
Scott’s aggression causes an injury on the field, though as Stiles also points out it is an accident and not a deliberate misuse of Scott’s power but it could have been. And there begins the temptation for Scott in Season 4: not to bathe his claws in the blood of his enemies but to put what he wants above everything else. And there are things he wants beyond captain of the lacrosse team. He wants to concentrate on his schoolwork. He wants an actual relationship with Kira. He wants a roof over his and his mother’s head as well as his best friend’s family not being crushed by medical bills. He wants a chance to get into a good college. He wants to drink and party at the bonfire rather than making sure everyone else is safe. “That sounds fun too,” Malia tells him sarcastically.
He could have all these things, and to get them all he has to do is relax his principles a little. Doesn’t he deserve to? So what if he takes shortcuts like recycling Derek’s words that didn’t work on him so he doesn’t have to come up with his own? Scott being confronted with opportunities to make excuses is embodied in four particular instances: the money, the nightmares about Liam in Time of Death (4x08), the battle in Monstrous (4x10), and the final battle with Peter in Smoke and Mirrors (4x12).
Garret’s money is the most obvious case. Without context, stealing money from someone else is wrong. In context, it’s not so clear. Garrett and Violet received that money for killing innocent werewolves, and they were paid for it from a dead pool that is offering 25 million dollars for Scott’s head. The McCall family is in danger of losing their house, in dire financial straits and the Stilinski family isn’t much better. The money is ultimately Peter’s, the person who caused all his terror the first place. Scott contemplates keeping it, contemplates making the excuse, until he is confronted by his mother in A Promise to the Dead (4x11).
Then there’s Liam. Liam is a problem. Scott didn’t want a beta (and contrary to fan theories, there was no indication he needed a werewolf beta in his pack or there would be dire consequences). Liam is stubborn, has a disorder that makes him dangerous, is a target for assassins, and is not sure even if he wants to be in the pack, though he would still be Scott’s responsibility during the terrible dangers of Kate being back and the Dead Pool. But a solution had presented itself to Scott through Derek and Deucalion in the past. “Tell him, Kali, tell him what it’s like, killing one of your own.” “Liberating.” Also contrary to fan theories, Scott isn’t immune to the urge to kill. It’d be easy; after all, Deucalion got away with it, Peter got away with it, Derek got away with it. Scott has always done the right thing when they haven’t, and in return he only gets more responsibility, but that’s why he’s the alpha. It could all go away if he compromised this once. It is an enticing excuse. “Let me help you,” intones the Mute, “Let me show you what to do.”
And with that ringing in his ears, Scott goes into the battle at Argent Arms. He’s taken on this responsibility because someone had to. He’s going to fight, and the enemies going to be gunning for him. “You’re still number one on the dead pool.” These renegade hunters were trained to kill him, but they can’t even try to kill him out of hatred. They’re going to kill him, his friends, and innocent people who can’t fight, simply for cash. It’s self-defense, but it’s only self-defense if he has no other choice. Up on that table, slashing at that hunter, he has every reason in the world to tear that stranger in half. He gets close.
The dark arc completes itself in La Iglesias. Scott has no reason whatsoever to spare Peter’s life except his own principle that every life has value. Peter managed to crawl back from the dead only to demonstrate that he’s learned nothing. He’s stolen power, corrupted others, and done the same things he did in Season 1 again in Season 4. From Peter’s own speech, there is no reason to believe that he wouldn’t do it again when he got the chance. This decision is right after Scott has been transformed into a mindless killing machine (again!) and forced to hurt the girl he loves. He is angry. He should be angry.
All Scott has to do is make the excuse that is right in front of his face. They always are. “I moved out the next day,” says Rafael. “I was out of my mind,” says Peter. “I can if they’re willing!” says Derek. “That the only way to save one person is to kill another,” says Deucalion. “I know a werewolf’s nature,” says Gerard. “To stop them from ever hurting anyone again,” says Jennifer. “To win the game.” Everyone else has good reasons for what they did. So does Scott. No one (especially me) would have been upset if just this once he tore Peter’s head from his body to end his threat once and for all.
But it would be an excuse. It would be leaving and sending an e-mail later. Scott knows that the right thing to do is to “think that there’s something about him that can be saved.” Even though this is Peter. This is the man who took his dreams from him and replaced them with nightmares. But when Scott knocks Peter out and turns to look at the altar where he lost his humanity for a bit, he knows he’s done the right thing. And the Dark Arc concludes.
No lacrosse games in s3, and that's how you know nothing was funny that season.
Even though I'm not a fan of their relationship, Scott and Allison were actually good in s1. But one thing I loved about their interactions were how Scott created a safe space for Allison and made her feel comfortable being a girl, or a human being.
In the first episode, Allison felt so embarrassed about freaking out when she hit the stray dog, because she had been indoctrinated to think she should be strong. So in her head, being strong can't go hand in hand with being a girly girl. Scott noticed this and assured her he, a guy, would also freak out and cry like a girly girl, making her know it was alright to be vulnerable.
In a deleted scene, they're driving to Lydia's party, and he asks her if she listens to lady gaga. She gets defensive, i think trying to push back to the stereotype that all girls listen to lady gaga, then he sheepishly smiles and admits he also listens to her music. Allison became more at ease and then admits she listens to lady gaga.
Even in s2, she's dealing with the grief of losing Kate, and she felt so conflicted about mourning a murderer. But he made her know it's okay to grieve because she lost an aunt, and a friend. So she's valid in her tears.
Personally, I actually feel like Allison needed Scott because he made her feel so safe and secure and valid. And it kinda pushed her to grow, and deconstruct toxic ideologies forced into her head.
I have a pet peeve about fandoms: when they try to moralize their favourite characters, particularly villians or morally grey characters.
The issue and conflict of morality being forced into fiction conversations has been going on for as long as I can remember. And I actually agree. While morality is an important theme in fiction, it shouldn't stop you from enjoying certain characters or just enjoying the fictional piece generally. You're allowed to fall in love with morally ambiguous characters. It's fun, and they're not real and it's not that serious at the end of the day
But then, that thing we do where we try to moralise these characters or try to defend them is where the disconnect happens. "Unpopular opinion, B character is the victim and had every right to do this" or "them not doing this made that character turn out that way..."
And it becomes a battle of who wronged who and morality is overemphasized. Personally, I like to study morally ambiguous characters and look at why they turned out the way they did. But when we start blaming characters who shouldn't be blamed and we start cuddling said character, it starts losing meaning.
Now, I also want to criticise how "heroic" characters are viewed. They're held to a certain standard and judged so much while the antagonists or the "misunderstood" characters are given leniency, as if they don't make mistakes on their own. And said heroic characters are not allowed their own flaws and mistakes. Nuance is lost when discussing these type of characters while the morally ambiguous ones are babied.
My point is that just because you like morally ambiguous characters or antagonists doesn't mean you have to demonise the morally upright characters and just because these morally upright characters doesn't necessarily mean that they're hypocritical, it just means that they're flawed. Just because villians are mistreated in the past doesn't mean they're completely valid in their wrong choices, and it shouldn't stop you from enjoying their characters less. You don't have to justify or defend their wrong doings to enjoy them.
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i keep seeing posts talking about those significant scenes that change the way they view a pairing/ship. and when it comes to teen wolf and sciles? it's always the same moments. like stiles' phone call and scott doing everything in his power to find him, or scott taking stiles' pain after he whacks his hand off the jeep. and don't get me wrong, those are crucial scenes, but for me? the real trajectory shift was this tiny, two second moment in 02x12 (master plan).
when stiles jumps out of the jeep and immediately runs to hide behind scott ?? scott just instinctively guiding him ?? oh. it's such a small detail, but the trust and protectiveness. it altered my entire perspective on their relationship. idk why but this scene means everything to me.
it will always be funny to me how pjo fans think pjo is somehow on the same level of popularity as other properties like harry potter, hunger games, and twilight. like all those were cultural phenomena and pop culture staples. everyone knows who harry potter, katniss everdeen, president snow, and bella and edward are. but ask a random person on the street and most likely they don't even know who percy jackson is. and most likely they know about the infamous movies and not the show
and im saying this as a former pjo fan -- pjo is simply a niche property. most people don't know about it. that's the harsh reality the remaining fans refuse to accept
Wait, seriously? It was a whole thing in my country a few years back- at least 2 kids per class brought a pjo book to school everyday. When we had online classes around covid most of the profile photos were of percy or annabeth- even the teachers made jokes about it. The desks were scrawled with the characters' names and kids kept secretly reading instead of paying attention to lessons that for a while they tried banning bringing novels to the classroom. Half the "my favourite book/character" essays were about pjo. Everyday like 3 of my classmates would post cringe incorrect posts/fan edits/fan casts on their status
My sister and her friends had a whole costume party for pjo once. We had to go early to book fairs to get them because they'd be sold out really fast- I remember some bookshops had an entire shelf dedicated just for the riordanverse. Harry Potter was equally popular, but had a lot less passionate fans if I remember correctly.
Twilight and the hunger games have an older target audience (teen instead of tween) and teens usually read less than kids (cause they start using phones more and stuff) so not everyone has actually read both those books. Almost everyone at school knows about Katniss cause she's iconic and has a lot of edits etc on social media- but President Snow? Highly unlikely if they haven't read/watched thg. I doubt even 5% of the older generation knows thg exists over here- it's always felt very niche to me.
Twilight is a bit more popular. I think most people do at least vaguely know about it. I've never read/watched it personally and none of my friends have either though- I actually kept getting Elena and Bella mixed up till very recently because I knew they were both in vampire shows and have kind of similar names. Didn't even know what Edward looked like till I saw an interview with the actor where the comments kept mentioning twilight.
Do you think maybe it's a Western culture thing? Thg, harry potter, pjo and twilight had no cultural impact for us. Pjo did have a comparatively higher personal impact on most of the younger generation here though.
Hi, it’s been a few years
You personally enjoying a side character more than the main character doesn’t automatically turn the main character into the real villain of the story.
Scott and Stiles 💙
"Pack mom stiles"
More like diabolical uncle stilinski with a shotgun and 50 new ways to kill you if you so much as breathe near his pack family.
the love story of teen wolf is scott mccall and stiles stilinski and don’t you FUCKING FORGET IT