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is everyone enjoying rpf summer
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do they know they're in love?
Hi, thank you for making this blog and your amazing work!
What are your thoughts on Paul talking about his dog Martha and John's reaction to Paul having a puppy, saying that John warmed up/put his guard down to Paul after/because of that?
It kind of sounds like they hadn't been close for a while still it was a time when they're supposed to be very close?
Thank you for your thoughts.
Paul has always been awkward and inconsistent whenever he talks about emotional vulnerability or physical affection with other men—like claiming that the Beatles hardly ever hugged, which we know isn't true. His story about John suddenly "warming up" and opening up to him after seeing him with Martha also sounds somewhat off. By all accounts, they were getting along quite well during that period, and there’s no real evidence they had been distant for a significant length of time. Paul also claims John was "surprised" because he had never seen Paul act so playful and affectionate before. I don't think that statement is quite true. Paul often portrays his younger self as far more reserved and restrained than he actually was in the 60s. John had certainly seen Paul being playful and affectionate before, especially with Julian. I just think that what likely happened is much simpler: John just loved watching Paul in such a carefree, unselfconscious, and effortlessly happy state. Seeing Paul fully relaxed and absorbed in pure joy was something John found genuinely wholesome and endearing. Paul picked up on the fact that John loved seeing him in that element, and that image of John watching him with total fondness stuck with him forever. Because Paul isn't going to outright say, "I just loved how John was looking at me with heart eyes when he saw me playing with Martha," he softens the memory. He awkwardly rationalizes/overexplains it by claiming John was taken aback by a "new" side of him, which supposedly made him finally "open up" and become sympathetic to him. But the idea that John was distant or unsympathetic prior to that doesn't really hold up. By most accounts, between 1961-1967 (with some short periods of tension, of course) they were exceptionally close, loving, and far more affectionate than Paul often lets on. I don't think there was this major emotional barrier between them that was finally broke by the act of Paul playing with Martha. I just see it as Paul just treasuring the memory of John gazing at him while he was with Martha, and wanting to openly share it, in his own way, lol. As Paul himself once admitted when an interviewer pressed him on the subject: “I could just tell by... the way he was looking that he, uh... liked it.” That really says it all. I don't think we need to assume they were estranged beforehand.
(there are quite a few pictures similar to this one, which was taken before Paul had Martha, with Paul being quite affectionate/playful with animals)
Willie: Pounding the piano the way [Little Richard] does… You lived on both sides of it — pre-rock and roll, then after rock and roll. And then you took it to an entirely new place.
Paul: Well, I think that is true. We had both sides — John and I, too. So when John and I first hooked up and started writing stuff, we asked each other, “What are your favorite songs?” Rock and roll had only just come in, so your favorite songs were old songs. I said one of mine was a song called "Cheek to cheek", which Fred Astaire sang in a movie. And John said “Little White Lies” was his. So we knew these old songs, and the structure of these old songs, and we admired that. So now we were writing in the rock-and-roll world, but we had that old sensibility. We were always trying to put a little bit of that in — a bit of melody, or some of the ideas that appeared in those old songs, like a little lead-up intro before the song got going. So I think that was a bit of a secret of the Beatles — it wasn’t just one type of music, it was influenced by a lot of different types of music. (2026)
I'm trying to find out more info on John "Diz" Gillespie, Brian Epstein's infamous boyfriend. So far the only biographical info I have on him is that he was from Ohio, he was in his mid-twenties in the mid-1960s, and he was arrested in NY (for blackmailing Brian and Nat Weiss) in 1966. Given that a 2006 auction of two of Diz's belongings listed him as the "vendor," I'm inclined to believe he was still alive back then and this wasn't a posthumous auction. Any help scouring databases would be appreciated!
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No I don’t think I’ll ever get over the Apple Corps photographs because it truly was the closest thing to what a McLennon wedding pictures could be.
Even cardboard John can’t catch a break smh 🤦♂️
"[Linda] is like John in that kind of way. She's like, 'Go on and do it. Try it.'"
(from the 1997 documentary: In The World Tonight (The Making of Flaming Pie)
i genuinely believe that paul felt more comfortable referring to john in that way back then because he was in denial and hadn’t processed what he truly felt, and now that he has and knows about the abundance of evidence we have on him, he’s trying to avoid it completely. honestly though we shouldn’t out him while he’s still alive
I actually don't believe that he somehow didn't know/hadn't processed/was in denial of what he felt about John. I think his words, his songs, and his actions throughout the late 60s and 70s show a great level of self-awareness. The period when he wasn't sure or didn't know how to label what he felt was most likely the late 50s and very early 60s—1964 at the latest. I think by 1964 he already knew what he felt and just didn't know how to express it, which is why he later said, "There wasn't any reason to keep it all inside" in Here Today. What I believe he was processing in the 80s was John's death. He was trying to come to terms with the fact that he would never be able to straighten everything out and resolve all their problems. This is something I think still haunts him to this day, despite him often claiming in interviews that their relationship was completely back on track. At the same time, he was dealing with a media landscape that was suddenly idolizing John while minimizing Paul.
As I mentioned before, Paul completely stopped using marriage and romantic metaphors in the late 80s, right around the time Albert Goldman's book came out in 1988. I don't think he stopped back then because "he knew about the abundance of evidence we have on him today." The vast majority of people in the 80s, 90s, and even the early 2000s didn't see their relationship as anything more than a friendship. In fact, many didn't even think they were friends at all. Most people simply weren't aware of all the lore that we can easily access and compile today. However, that premise definitely applies to the present day. He is very aware of mclennon, which has gained a massive amount of visibility since the mid-2010s. Now he has a clear reason to avoid those metaphors, which could explain why he currently stays away from them. But that couldn't have been the catalyst back then, since he had already dropped them by the late 80s, when the public had absolutely no concept of that dynamic. As for why Paul decided to be so candid and surprisingly direct with those marriage metaphors for most of the 80s, I think he was trying to make people understand just how intertwined, codependent, and close they really were. Using the concept of "a marriage" was his way of counterbalancing the prevailing narrative of that era: the idea that their relationship/partnership wasn't equal, that John was the sole genius who looked down on him, and that they were barely friends. He wanted to highlight just how strong and intense their bond was before the breakup, or "before Yoko came into the picture," as he put it. He wanted to assert his vital importance in John's life, showing a bond so strong that Yoko would naturally feel insecure if it continued the way it had. If there is one constant in Paul, it is his desire to point out his specific place in John's life (like when he remarked, "It was ME who was in the room with him, not Yoko, not Sean, not Julian, not Mimi, not Ringo," etc.). So, in the 80s, he was pushing hard to tell the world how important their relationship was because the public had a completely distorted idea of their dynamic. And also, tbh, it's clear from some of the things Paul has said over the years that he often speaks without fully thinking through the implications, lol. Today, he'll sometimes say something, realize it's too revealing, and immediately backpedal. I can imagine that back in the 80s, he would say things like "I was like John's girlfriend" or "we were like married" and say them casually because it was simply the truth. He either wasn't really thinking about how revealing he was being, or he knew it, but felt safe assuming the public would just view it as a colorful metaphor. Either way, it served his purpose of highlighting his importance in John's life so the media and the public would finally understand. And he was trying to explain to the public why John had been so nasty to him publicly. He stated that he understood it because John was trying to rid himself of "the spectre of me" in order to move on with Yoko. I think Paul intended for this to tell the audience that no matter what awful things John said about him, it was actually a testament to how deep their bond ran. John had to actively exorcise Paul from his head just to function with Yoko; it wasn't because John genuinely hated him, as so many believed at the time.
As for why he stopped this entirely by 1988, I firmly believe Goldman's book was a major factor. Suddenly, you had a bestselling book that received a lot of media attention, claiming that John was gay. For Paul to constantly use marriage and romantic metaphors to explain their relationship right after that would have caused a lot of people to raise their eyebrows. So, I think Paul chose to become much more careful with his wording. I haven't found a single blunt marriage metaphor from him in the 90s. Yes, he would say that the Beatles' breakup was like a divorce, but that was always a general comment about the whole band, not his and John's specific relationship. The closest he got to those 80s metaphors in the 90s was during Anthology, when he said, "I couldn't let John dump us like we were jilted girlfriends." But notice how he uses the typical, safer "US", which instantly tones down the statement and makes it sound like a playful analogy. From the late 80s until at least 2015, what we consistently saw from Paul is him actively claiming that John was heterosexual as far as he knew ("If I saw John doing something, it would be ass bobbing up and down, fucking some chick.", "it was just chicks, chicks, chicks.") He constantly inserted himself into the narrative even when no one was asking about HIM and John specifically, volunteering how he slept in the same bed a million times with John and there was "never anything. Not a single expression or gesture. It was nothing!" lol. With such a highly defensive stance and a visible and rather unusual discomfort with the idea of people thinking John was gay (which I think is likely out of a wariness that people would scrutinize their relationship even closer because of it), it's no wonder he long ago stopped saying that he and John were like a married couple, or that John had to put him away just to be able to move on with Yoko.
Can you guys picture Paul saying stuff like this today? Because I definitely can't, lol:
"Then also we were like married, so you got the bitterness. It’s not a woman scorned this time, it’s two men scorned — probably even worse. And I had to make way for Yoko. My relationship with John could not have remained as it was and Yoko feel secure." (1984) "Really all that happened was that John fell in love. With Yoko. And so, with such a powerful alliance like that, it was difficult for him to still be seeing me. It was as if I was another girlfriend, almost." (1985)
As I've said before, it's so intriguing how all these marriage and romantic "metaphors" whenever he was explaining his relationship with John just completely vanished from his vocabulary since the 90s, even though he candidly and openly used them so many times during the 80s. Just like he randomly revealed (also in the 80s) that John told him that Jealous Guy was about him, but he has never brought it up again. I feel like this isn't talked about enough...
(I sometimes can't help but wonder if the release of Goldman's book in 1988, claiming that John was gay, was one of the reasons why he decided to stop using that language. Because I haven't seen another explicitly romantic metaphor from him afterwards since the late 80s)
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Paul McCartney brushing his teeth, Greece
In case anybody doesn't know, the majority of what John's saying here is utter bollocks. Bonne chance [good luck], la mer [the sea] merde [shit], enchante [enchanted, usually said when meeting someone, as in it's delightful to meet you], pomme de terre [potatoe, basically ground apple] He calls Paul cheri, a term of endearment, one possible meaning is darling. I love how the picture of John and Paul sitting beside each other, drinking their Cokes, it looks like Paul has his hand on John's thigh.
John singing in French, winking at the camera, singing Lady Marmalade by Patti LaBelle, and the line "voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?" which translates to "do you want to sleep with me tonight?" And I'm supposed to believe that it isn't to Paul?
For whatever reason, Paul is anxious about it. I can't tell, and maybe it's a visual thing, but John knows. At 1:00 you can hear John talking about someone, Paul, freaking out. At 1:06, you can hear him say, "stop freaking out, Mrs." It apparently works as you don't hear Paul sort of mumbling as much.
He calls Paul Mrs...as in his Mrs....teehee
Dusty flirts with George, no one cares; Dusty flirts with Ringo, no one cares. Dusty flirts with John, no one cares. Dusty flirts with Paul...you can almost hear the *fahching* of John's claws coming out and then how catty he is with Dusty, asking her about her scabs. Paul gives John the finger. It's okay, John, you're not her type, if you know what I mean.
This is the most obvious I've ever publicly seen John ogle Paul.
First time John checks out Paul in his cowboy hat is 2:49. He then gets in a side glance in at 3:04. Third at 3:23. Then at 3:26, Ringo, God bless 'im, starts posting and everyone begins to do it. At 3:33, John takes his fourth look. At 3:42, John looks across at him, then leans back because when you post, your arse come off the horse. It's not as much here as it would be on an actual horse, but Johnny's hoping to catch a look at Pauly's backside as he lifts himself off of his seat Ringo then, God bless 'im, again, brings up how hot it was in New Orleans. John: "Very hot. Exceedingly hot." He most defo is not talking about the weather. Paul was totally wearing that cowboy hat when they did it later. Incidentally, I would read the fuck out of George Harrison's detective thriller novel.
It picks up again at 6:30 with John being the microphone holder. Everyone gets the mic held a bit away from their mouth. Everyone except Paul. At 7:55, John gets that mic riigghht up almost at Paul's lips. Subtlety, thy name is not John Lennon.
I think Paul bouncing the mic of off his chin is him responding to John doing what he did to the mic.
The audio picks up at :53 seconds. There is a specific part, but this whole scene is fascinating because after knowing each other for over eleven years at this point, the amount of times they still look over at each other, either turning their heads, or just flicking their eyes across, for no other reason but to look at each other is insane.
At 5:40, you look like a Victorian miner, and Paul puts his hand in his hair. John says, "mess me up, baby, and my red hot [?]." Paul's response is to stretch up to the light and let out a groan, and put his hands in his hair. People knew. They had to know because how could you not. They may not have said anything, but people knew that there was something going on with them.