I'm not over it

Give my boys a happy ending.

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"Kishimoto make sasuke and naruto gay intentionally and not on accident" Okay then so why did he go on multiple interviews insisting that naruto and sasuke's relationship is brotherly and is inspired from his twin brother and that people shouldn't interpret their bond as romantic but platonic?? Source : https://twitter* com/uchihassasusaku/status/1419104011265974275?

If a writer writes homoerotic subtext in his material and expects people to read the material as romantic, he doesnt go around calling the characters "siblings" and asking people to not interpret their dynamic as romantic because then people wont read into his queer subtext like he wanted to

Ship what you want to ship. But stop acting like everyone should buy into your delusions. Kishimoto never said or implied that he wanted naruto and sasuke to be seen as gay but he did say many times that their relationship is brotherly

Ah, another shipper who ships a ship where creator implied twice they never kissed. And whose couple never had a meaningful conversation in a 700 chapter manga. And linking me to some SS stan who gave Elon Musk money for bluecheck mark. 🤣 A good ground to stand on. Okay, I will guide you by the hand since you don't seem to understand. It's okay, illiteracy is a common problem these days. I will put this in easy sections for you, with added links.

Also you and your "queer" nonsense... we are talking about gay, homosexuality. Not slurs.

About the interviews:

The Kizuna thing isn't even written by him, it's an article by another person. These books aren't written by the mangakas ever, they do not have the time nor is the article written from Kishi's pov. Shocker, people write a lot of things in anime merchandise that the creator isn't even involved in. [link] If it were written by Kishi, then an interviewer wouldn't have had to ask Kishi years later whether brotherly relationship was what he was going for with Naruto and Sasuke's bond, and Kishi wouldn't have had given such a cryptic answer where he mulls over it. Because he would have given the answers years back already. Also the fact that he's asked to define their relationship shows how weird it is to the readers. He NEVER told people to not interpret their relationship as romantic. And personally, I have seen movies and a comic where two characters referred to each other as brothers, and their creator referred to them as "soul brothers" but later revealed them to also have romantic feelings.

But I don't expect your mind to be able to comprehend things like this, it does require a little bit of 1+1=2 math. The interview about Seishi is about the feeling of empathy, not that they are literally Naruto and Sasuke's characters. It is one aspect. Kishi has joked about how Naruto and Sasuke are him and his editor too, because he will try to impress his editor. So? And he has said Kushina is based on his wife. So Naruto is him and Kushina is his wife? Why aren't you freaking about this freudian stuff? I know why. I also remember someone saying if Kishi REALLY saw his relationship with his brother as the exact same as Naruto and Sasuke, his brother would need a restraining order against him. It was funny and accurate.

I have wrote about the inconsistencies in his interviews and what shows that he definitely didn't write their dynamic as the same as with his brother despite having one aspect of it [link] and here is another post talking about it more deeply (they also linked my post I just mentioned) [link]. This post also explains how Kishimoto wrote Naruto constantly to do what Sakura can't for Sasuke, and she also included many links to my other posts where I talk about how Kishi wrote Sakura and Sasuke's dynamic, which you can also read if you feel like it. Unless you are scared of being proved wrong, you will read those right, or at least the linked post itself?

About how the audience perceives their dynamic:

The thing is, you and SS fandom don't understand how stories are written. Authors don't do stuff randomly. They use narrative and literary devices to tell their story. Kishi himself has remarked on it many times how careful he is about writing characters, how much he does research, how careful he is about angles etc. [link] If Naruto and Sasuke's relationship was written as brotherly in the text, in the manga, it wouldn't make a bunch of people uncomfortable. There wouldn't have been meltdowns after specific chapters nor would we have people saying when the manga was going on that they are annoyed by the "gay stuff". [link] [link] [link] (there are many more, but here's some collections for an example). Here's one more talking about the Japanese fandom. [link]

When Luffy was saving Ace in Impel Town/Marineford arc, no one in the dudebro community was uncomfortable nor saying it was gay. Eventhough it was a touching and dramatic storyline that showed us how much the two cared about each other. When Alibaba and Cassim were having their past and relationship unravelled in Magi, no one was uncomfortable. Eventhough it was tragic and dramatic and touching yet again. Because despite neither of these pairs being blood-brothers, they were WRITTEN to have a brotherly dynamic/development/relationship in the text, in their behavior. Which is why this also translated to the audience successfully.

If Naruto and Sasuke were written to be brotherly, they would refer to each other as such, including in Boruto, and would tell other people such as well. Hell, they would be proud to tell other people that this person they respect and admire the most is like a brother to them. But they don't. Naruto even told Hagoromo they aren't siblings, but friends. Sasuke said he has only one brother and that is Itachi. If they were brotherly, Kishi wouldn't make Naruto kiss Sasuke, even if accidentally, and have that to be their first interaction. He wouldn't say he wants to be the first one to have rivals kiss in shounen. Not a single brotherly relationship in media is written like this. You know, tropes matter. He wouldn't have Sasuke think fondly about the kiss as one of his most precious memories when he is dying, while years later implying more than once Sasuke never kissed Sakura lol. He wouldn't say Sakura had her first kiss stolen by her rival Naruto. He wouldn't make Sakura be jealous of Naruto's importance to Sasuke, while also giving her zero importance in saving Sasuke. He would not constantly make fun of Sakura by having her be thirsty/desperate for Sasuke's attention, any little crumb from him, while Sasuke ignores her and focuses on Naruto. Kishi knows how his writing comes off. Plenty of people, both men and women who weren't shippers, made jokes about Sasuke going "where's Naruto? hey Naruto" whenever Sakura speaks. Because Kishi made it such a constant dynamic with the three of them. People who have the basic amount of media literacy will get it, and thus all those jokes and memes were born. [link] [link] [link]

If they were brotherly, the anime studio wouldn't have them make eyes at each other while lyrics "please kiss me all night" play in the background, aside from all the other gay ops/ends with romantic lyrics to them. And since Kishi watches the anime, he would have probably point out it's weird. That's what I would do if I wrote about my relationship with my brother and people did that. Magi anime didn't have Alibaba and Cassim in romantic endings...

Kishi wouldn't put this in the movie he made if he wanted them to appear as brothers. Everyone was saying this looked gay/homoerotic when the movie dropped. I saw men on forums say "lol this looks so homoerotic, why did he have to catch Sasuke like that" and even in Chinese theaters people were giggling during this scene. Because it's so in your face fanservice. And Kishi said he cares about angles a lot in his story and that he redraws them if they aren't good enough to drive the message home. So what exactly does that tell you?

People usually aren't sexual about their brother

He wouldn't sexualize and put so much homoeroticism surrounding Sasuke's character, if Sasuke was solely inspired by his brother. You know, unless he had a questionable obsession with his brother. [link]

He wouldn't make Naruto literally get sexually excited when about to fight Sasuke lol [link] [link] that's so obvious Japanese men got amused, uncomfortable and even angry about it, if Sasuke and Naruto were him and his brother.

Romantic tropes/brotherly tropes are not the same

The fact Kishimoto's het couples parallel Naruto and Sasuke's dynamic is very evident. If "brotherly" relationship resembles romantic couples by the same author instead of the other brother dynamics he has written, guess what, it's not written as a brother dynamic lol. Again, proof that he didn't write their dynamic as brotherly. Both Mario/Saori [link] [link] and Minato/Kushina [link] [link] parallel Naruto/Sasuke and have the same tropes as them.

Raikage/Killer B is written as a normal brother relationship. Itachi/Sasuke is written as a complicated brother relationship with a lot of tragedy. Shikamaru/Choji is written as a normal friendship. Kakashi/Obito is written as a complicated friendship with a lot of tragedy. Naruto/Sasuke resembles the romantic relationships Kishimoto wrote, instead of these ones I mentioned. Even in their world, Naruto's actions are seen as irrational and obsession, and the weirdness of it all is constantly pointed out, by Sai, Kabuto, Sakura, Raikage, Itachi. This is a choice Kishi made when he wrote them. [link]

He also made a homage to Devilman and Akira/Ryo relationship that even people in the Japanese fandom noticed. [link] He specifically picked the chapter where Ryo admits having romantic feelings for Akira, and the fight (which parallels Vote2) ending with Ryo realizing how deep his feelings for Akira lie. Kishimoto would not do that if Naruto and Sasuke were based on him and his brother. Why would he pick a character famous for being gay for his best friend/enemy in a chapter where we finally get to see inside Sasuke's head?

Aside from paralleling Hinata's feelings towards Naruto in the Pain arc with Naruto's feelings towards Sasuke in the very next arc, he also foreshadowed a romantic double-suicide with Naruto and Sasuke during said arc. ROMANTIC. [link]

Sasuke on the other hand, was never satisfied with Naruto calling him brother or friend. If their relationship was strictly brotherly, they wouldn't need to ponder about the nature of their relationship, because that's not how any brotherly relationship is written in media. [link]

Kishimoto dislikes SS and talks about Sakura's "love" negatively more than once. [link] Sakura's love is selfish, toxic... yet this doesn't mean anything. Sakura wanted to save Sasuke, yet the one Sasuke said saved him was Naruto.

Now think hard. Use the modest intellect you possess. So aside from Kishimoto having Naruto show sexual attraction towards Sasuke to the point it made Japanese men uncomfortable, he also used romantic tropes (one of them being double-suicide which a writer Kishimoto admires is famous for because he mostly wrote romantic plays ending in that) and romantic parallels to show Naruto's feelings towards Sasuke multiple times, which he did not use for other male friendships in the manga. To the point many Japanese men wondered why Kishimoto "has to push homosexual agenda with Naruto's character", despite the fact he's supposed to be " a normal/good guy". All of these things somehow do not mean anything, nor do the multiple other things I have pointed out on my blog.

I'm not asking you to "buy" into anything, because understanding Naruto is a love story between Naruto and Sasuke and that Kishimoto does not even like Sakura let alone SS would require a little bit of reading comprehension and common sense. Which you and the person you linked sacrificed at the pink altar of Sakura worship, because to you not having anything in common with your partner nor having anything meaningful to talk about nor knowing anything about each other is somehow love. To you having someone else help and understand the person you love because you can't somehow makes an ideal relationship. You mistake Sakura's onesided melodrama for love. She has never said anything meaningful about Sasuke's character, neither has Sasuke said anything meaningful about her. Yet you believe Kishi wrote some deep relationship between them. How am I supposed to reason with someone like that? But your gaslighting doesn't phase me, I have seen all this before many times, it's old news by now. You can call me delusional all you want, but I trust my own understanding thank you very much. It's not like that much is even required, as proven by how many people, even the ones that don't have any need to (casual viewers, straight men, etc.) see it, still see it. Because it is that obvious that only desperate need to not see it blinds someone like you from seeing it.

I'm actually working on another post about Narusasu and Kishi's writing tools regarding it, so stay tuned 🩷

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Kishimoto (though we don’t even know for sure if the statement actually came from him) said that he felt pain seeing his brother in pain. He also said he reflected that feeling in Naruto and Sasuke’s relationship, describing the love of friendship and brotherhood as the same. However, in this scene Naruto is describing and relating to Sakura’s type of pain

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"Kishimoto make sasuke and naruto gay intentionally and not on accident" Okay then so why did he go on multiple interviews insisting that naruto and sasuke's relationship is brotherly and is inspired from his twin brother and that people shouldn't interpret their bond as romantic but platonic?? Source : https://twitter* com/uchihassasusaku/status/1419104011265974275?

If a writer writes homoerotic subtext in his material and expects people to read the material as romantic, he doesnt go around calling the characters "siblings" and asking people to not interpret their dynamic as romantic because then people wont read into his queer subtext like he wanted to

Ship what you want to ship. But stop acting like everyone should buy into your delusions. Kishimoto never said or implied that he wanted naruto and sasuke to be seen as gay but he did say many times that their relationship is brotherly

Ah, another shipper who ships a ship where creator implied twice they never kissed. And whose couple never had a meaningful conversation in a 700 chapter manga. And linking me to some SS stan who gave Elon Musk money for bluecheck mark. 🤣 A good ground to stand on. Okay, I will guide you by the hand since you don't seem to understand. It's okay, illiteracy is a common problem these days. I will put this in easy sections for you, with added links.

Also you and your "queer" nonsense... we are talking about gay, homosexuality. Not slurs.

About the interviews:

The Kizuna thing isn't even written by him, it's an article by another person. These books aren't written by the mangakas ever, they do not have the time nor is the article written from Kishi's pov. Shocker, people write a lot of things in anime merchandise that the creator isn't even involved in. [link] If it were written by Kishi, then an interviewer wouldn't have had to ask Kishi years later whether brotherly relationship was what he was going for with Naruto and Sasuke's bond, and Kishi wouldn't have had given such a cryptic answer where he mulls over it. Because he would have given the answers years back already. Also the fact that he's asked to define their relationship shows how weird it is to the readers. He NEVER told people to not interpret their relationship as romantic. And personally, I have seen movies and a comic where two characters referred to each other as brothers, and their creator referred to them as "soul brothers" but later revealed them to also have romantic feelings.

But I don't expect your mind to be able to comprehend things like this, it does require a little bit of 1+1=2 math. The interview about Seishi is about the feeling of empathy, not that they are literally Naruto and Sasuke's characters. It is one aspect. Kishi has joked about how Naruto and Sasuke are him and his editor too, because he will try to impress his editor. So? And he has said Kushina is based on his wife. So Naruto is him and Kushina is his wife? Why aren't you freaking about this freudian stuff? I know why. I also remember someone saying if Kishi REALLY saw his relationship with his brother as the exact same as Naruto and Sasuke, his brother would need a restraining order against him. It was funny and accurate.

I have wrote about the inconsistencies in his interviews and what shows that he definitely didn't write their dynamic as the same as with his brother despite having one aspect of it [link] and here is another post talking about it more deeply (they also linked my post I just mentioned) [link]. This post also explains how Kishimoto wrote Naruto constantly to do what Sakura can't for Sasuke, and she also included many links to my other posts where I talk about how Kishi wrote Sakura and Sasuke's dynamic, which you can also read if you feel like it. Unless you are scared of being proved wrong, you will read those right, or at least the linked post itself?

About how the audience perceives their dynamic:

The thing is, you and SS fandom don't understand how stories are written. Authors don't do stuff randomly. They use narrative and literary devices to tell their story. Kishi himself has remarked on it many times how careful he is about writing characters, how much he does research, how careful he is about angles etc. [link] If Naruto and Sasuke's relationship was written as brotherly in the text, in the manga, it wouldn't make a bunch of people uncomfortable. There wouldn't have been meltdowns after specific chapters nor would we have people saying when the manga was going on that they are annoyed by the "gay stuff". [link] [link] [link] (there are many more, but here's some collections for an example). Here's one more talking about the Japanese fandom. [link]

When Luffy was saving Ace in Impel Town/Marineford arc, no one in the dudebro community was uncomfortable nor saying it was gay. Eventhough it was a touching and dramatic storyline that showed us how much the two cared about each other. When Alibaba and Cassim were having their past and relationship unravelled in Magi, no one was uncomfortable. Eventhough it was tragic and dramatic and touching yet again. Because despite neither of these pairs being blood-brothers, they were WRITTEN to have a brotherly dynamic/development/relationship in the text, in their behavior. Which is why this also translated to the audience successfully.

If Naruto and Sasuke were written to be brotherly, they would refer to each other as such, including in Boruto, and would tell other people such as well. Hell, they would be proud to tell other people that this person they respect and admire the most is like a brother to them. But they don't. Naruto even told Hagoromo they aren't siblings, but friends. Sasuke said he has only one brother and that is Itachi. If they were brotherly, Kishi wouldn't make Naruto kiss Sasuke, even if accidentally, and have that to be their first interaction. He wouldn't say he wants to be the first one to have rivals kiss in shounen. Not a single brotherly relationship in media is written like this. You know, tropes matter. He wouldn't have Sasuke think fondly about the kiss as one of his most precious memories when he is dying, while years later implying more than once Sasuke never kissed Sakura lol. He wouldn't say Sakura had her first kiss stolen by her rival Naruto. He wouldn't make Sakura be jealous of Naruto's importance to Sasuke, while also giving her zero importance in saving Sasuke. He would not constantly make fun of Sakura by having her be thirsty/desperate for Sasuke's attention, any little crumb from him, while Sasuke ignores her and focuses on Naruto. Kishi knows how his writing comes off. Plenty of people, both men and women who weren't shippers, made jokes about Sasuke going "where's Naruto? hey Naruto" whenever Sakura speaks. Because Kishi made it such a constant dynamic with the three of them. People who have the basic amount of media literacy will get it, and thus all those jokes and memes were born. [link] [link] [link]

If they were brotherly, the anime studio wouldn't have them make eyes at each other while lyrics "please kiss me all night" play in the background, aside from all the other gay ops/ends with romantic lyrics to them. And since Kishi watches the anime, he would have probably point out it's weird. That's what I would do if I wrote about my relationship with my brother and people did that. Magi anime didn't have Alibaba and Cassim in romantic endings...

Kishi wouldn't put this in the movie he made if he wanted them to appear as brothers. Everyone was saying this looked gay/homoerotic when the movie dropped. I saw men on forums say "lol this looks so homoerotic, why did he have to catch Sasuke like that" and even in Chinese theaters people were giggling during this scene. Because it's so in your face fanservice. And Kishi said he cares about angles a lot in his story and that he redraws them if they aren't good enough to drive the message home. So what exactly does that tell you?

People usually aren't sexual about their brother

He wouldn't sexualize and put so much homoeroticism surrounding Sasuke's character, if Sasuke was solely inspired by his brother. You know, unless he had a questionable obsession with his brother. [link]

He wouldn't make Naruto literally get sexually excited when about to fight Sasuke lol [link] [link] that's so obvious Japanese men got amused, uncomfortable and even angry about it, if Sasuke and Naruto were him and his brother.

Romantic tropes/brotherly tropes are not the same

The fact Kishimoto's het couples parallel Naruto and Sasuke's dynamic is very evident. If "brotherly" relationship resembles romantic couples by the same author instead of the other brother dynamics he has written, guess what, it's not written as a brother dynamic lol. Again, proof that he didn't write their dynamic as brotherly. Both Mario/Saori [link] [link] and Minato/Kushina [link] [link] parallel Naruto/Sasuke and have the same tropes as them.

Raikage/Killer B is written as a normal brother relationship. Itachi/Sasuke is written as a complicated brother relationship with a lot of tragedy. Shikamaru/Choji is written as a normal friendship. Kakashi/Obito is written as a complicated friendship with a lot of tragedy. Naruto/Sasuke resembles the romantic relationships Kishimoto wrote, instead of these ones I mentioned. Even in their world, Naruto's actions are seen as irrational and obsession, and the weirdness of it all is constantly pointed out, by Sai, Kabuto, Sakura, Raikage, Itachi. This is a choice Kishi made when he wrote them. [link]

He also made a homage to Devilman and Akira/Ryo relationship that even people in the Japanese fandom noticed. [link] He specifically picked the chapter where Ryo admits having romantic feelings for Akira, and the fight (which parallels Vote2) ending with Ryo realizing how deep his feelings for Akira lie. Kishimoto would not do that if Naruto and Sasuke were based on him and his brother. Why would he pick a character famous for being gay for his best friend/enemy in a chapter where we finally get to see inside Sasuke's head?

Aside from paralleling Hinata's feelings towards Naruto in the Pain arc with Naruto's feelings towards Sasuke in the very next arc, he also foreshadowed a romantic double-suicide with Naruto and Sasuke during said arc. ROMANTIC. [link]

Sasuke on the other hand, was never satisfied with Naruto calling him brother or friend. If their relationship was strictly brotherly, they wouldn't need to ponder about the nature of their relationship, because that's not how any brotherly relationship is written in media. [link]

Kishimoto dislikes SS and talks about Sakura's "love" negatively more than once. [link] Sakura's love is selfish, toxic... yet this doesn't mean anything. Sakura wanted to save Sasuke, yet the one Sasuke said saved him was Naruto.

Now think hard. Use the modest intellect you possess. So aside from Kishimoto having Naruto show sexual attraction towards Sasuke to the point it made Japanese men uncomfortable, he also used romantic tropes (one of them being double-suicide which a writer Kishimoto admires is famous for because he mostly wrote romantic plays ending in that) and romantic parallels to show Naruto's feelings towards Sasuke multiple times, which he did not use for other male friendships in the manga. To the point many Japanese men wondered why Kishimoto "has to push homosexual agenda with Naruto's character", despite the fact he's supposed to be " a normal/good guy". All of these things somehow do not mean anything, nor do the multiple other things I have pointed out on my blog.

I'm not asking you to "buy" into anything, because understanding Naruto is a love story between Naruto and Sasuke and that Kishimoto does not even like Sakura let alone SS would require a little bit of reading comprehension and common sense. Which you and the person you linked sacrificed at the pink altar of Sakura worship, because to you not having anything in common with your partner nor having anything meaningful to talk about nor knowing anything about each other is somehow love. To you having someone else help and understand the person you love because you can't somehow makes an ideal relationship. You mistake Sakura's onesided melodrama for love. She has never said anything meaningful about Sasuke's character, neither has Sasuke said anything meaningful about her. Yet you believe Kishi wrote some deep relationship between them. How am I supposed to reason with someone like that? But your gaslighting doesn't phase me, I have seen all this before many times, it's old news by now. You can call me delusional all you want, but I trust my own understanding thank you very much. It's not like that much is even required, as proven by how many people, even the ones that don't have any need to (casual viewers, straight men, etc.) see it, still see it. Because it is that obvious that only desperate need to not see it blinds someone like you from seeing it.

I'm actually working on another post about Narusasu and Kishi's writing tools regarding it, so stay tuned 🩷

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Naruto is a fake hero, but a brainwashed glorified poster boy of Konoha

Only Boruto manga's hard evidence that Naruto did not reform anything, rather still relies on the old structure, which is fascist in nature if not fully fascist in terms, and on the most powerful of the 2, while not reforming in economic alternative/non violent portfolio economy, creating judicial, and administrative sector/platform, equal foreign policy approach towards small villages and essential social change or no historical censorship, but suddenly started to focus on ultra capitalism and high ninja tech and building skycrap, that's all now prove me,

 in the Boruto manga (specifically Boruto: Naruto Next Generations and Boruto: Two Blue Vortex), we have to look past the shiny skyscrapers of the new Konoha and examine the actual mechanics of the world Naruto oversees.

The manga provides several key points that support the argument that the "reformation" was purely aesthetic and technological, while the underlying socio-political structure remains unchanged.

1. Failure of Foreign Policy: The Amegakure Evidence

In Chapter 16, the manga introduces the "Kara" organization and their base of operations.

The Evidence: It is revealed that Kara has been operating out of the Hidden Rain (Amegakure). The village is depicted as a graveyard of rusted pipes and ruins—exactly as it looked after the Fourth Ninja War.

The Implication: Naruto promised Nagato he would bring peace and prosperity to the Rain. Instead, he neglected it. The Rain Village was left out of the "Five Great Nations" prosperity, proving that Naruto’s foreign policy is still hegemonic—the powerful villages get rich, while the small villages remain war-torn buffer zones.

2. No Judicial or Administrative Reform: The "Village of Secrets"

The manga shows that Naruto has maintained the same opaque, non-democratic administrative structure of his predecessors.

The Evidence: The Konoha Council (the Elders Koharu and Homura) are still in power. These are the same advisors who authorized the Uchiha Massacre and supported Danzo's fascist "Root" program.

The Implication: If Naruto had truly reformed the administration, these figures would have been removed or tried for war crimes. By keeping them, he validates the old system’s "ends justify the means" morality.

Historical Censorship: In the manga, the truth about the Uchiha Massacre and the crimes of the previous Hokage are still heavily suppressed or "Classified S-Rank" (as seen in the Sarada Uchiha side-stories and Boruto character arcs). The public remains ignorant of the state’s past atrocities.

3. Economic Stagnation: The "Ninja-Only" Portfolio

Despite the high-tech buildings, the economy is still built on military contracting.

The Evidence: The Thunder Train (Kaminarimon Company) and the rapid urbanization seen in Chapter 1 and beyond are funded by the Daimyo’s military budget.

The Implication: Naruto didn't create a civilian economy; he created a Military-Industrial Complex. The village’s primary export is still "violence for hire" (missions). The "High Tech" is almost exclusively focused on Scientific Ninja Tools (weapons), turning the village into a tech-based arms manufacturer rather than a peaceful society.

4. Continued Reliance on Child Soldiers (The Kawaki Case)

The manga’s central plot revolving around Kawaki and Boruto is the ultimate evidence of the fascist "weaponization of the individual."

The Evidence: When Kawaki is brought to the village, he is not treated as a refugee or a civilian child needing therapy; he is treated as a "vessel" and a military asset.

The Implication: Even Naruto, who claims to love him as a son, eventually has to treat him as a strategic variable in the defense of the village. The fact that 12-year-olds (Team 7) are still the primary front-line responders to god-tier threats (Otsutsuki) shows that the "Child Soldier" framework is still the backbone of the State.

5. Social Control and "Will of Fire" as State Ideology

The "Will of Fire" is still used to justify the sacrifice of the individual for the State.

The Evidence: In the Two Blue Vortex (the timeskip), we see the village's reaction to Boruto. The moment a citizen is deemed a "threat" to the collective, the entire state apparatus—including the police force and the public—turns into a monolithic hunting party.

The Implication: This is the definition of collectivist fascism. The individual (Boruto/Kawaki) only has value as long as they serve the "Leaf's peace."

Naruto didn't change the world; he just became the most powerful enforcer of the world that already existed. He replaced the "bloody" aesthetic with a "corporate" one.

Hard evidence from the Boruto manga confirms that Naruto’s "reformation" preserved the existing military-fascist framework while merely layering it with technological and capitalistic expansion.

The following points detail the systemic stagnation in the post-war era:

1. Foreign Policy: Hegemony and Abandoned Nations

The Hidden Rain (Amegakure): In Chapter 16, it is revealed that the Rain remains a decaying ruin. Despite Naruto’s promise to Nagato to bring peace and aid, the village was left to rot, eventually serving as a secret base for the terrorist organization Kara.

Five Nations Supremacy: The peace Naruto maintains is a "Great Power Peace" that prioritizes the stability of the Five Great Nations while smaller villages are excluded from the new era's economic prosperity.

2. Administrative & Judicial Stagnation

Preservation of the Old Guard: The Konoha Council (Homura and Koharu)—the same individuals responsible for the Uchiha Massacre—remain in power under Naruto's administration.

Historical Censorship: Information regarding the Uchiha Massacre and the crimes of previous Hokage is still classified as "S-Rank" and withheld from the public. When Sarada researches her own clan in the library, she finds the records have been heavily sanitized or restricted. 

3. Economic Portfolio: Military-Industrial Complex

Scientific Ninja Tools: Instead of diversifying into a civilian-led economy, the manga highlights the development of the Scientific Ninja Weapons Team (Katasuke's lab). Innovation is primarily focused on weaponizing chakra into portable tech for military use.

Ultra-Capitalism vs. Tradition: While the village features skyscrapers and the "Thunder Train" (Kaminarimon Company), this wealth is built on the back of the same mercenary mission system. The Daimyo still control the military budget, ensuring the village remains a state-funded private military

4. Continued Reliance on Child Soldiers 

Systemic Indoctrination: The Academy still funnels children into a military career at age 12. While parents might care more individually, the state still views these children as Genin (combatants) and sends them on lethal missions.

The Case of Kawaki: Naruto’s treatment of Kawaki—though personally kind—is administratively that of a "Vessel" and security variable. Kawaki’s body was modified by state-adjacent technology (Amado), and his worth to the village is tied to his combat potential. 

5. Social Control: The "Will of Fire" as State Ideology

Totalitarian Response: In the Two Blue Vortex chapters, the village’s reaction to a perceived internal threat (Boruto) demonstrates how quickly the state apparatus turns into a monolithic hunt.

Individual Sacrifice: The ideology still demands that the individual (the "Leaf") sacrifice everything for the collective preservation of the village, a hallmark of fascist social structure. 

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Hidari’s Target

Hi guys!! As I said, I was rereading Boruto TBV, so I’ll be posting things I find. First was Jura reading “The Gun” by Nakamura, you can find that post if you're curious, here!!

Now, I’ve noticed the most probable real reason behind Hidari choosing Sarada as his target.

Everything starts here, in ep 5. We are introduced to the Divine Tree clones properly and learn about their targets and objectives.

We learn that Jura is the leader and, from what we’ve seen, the most intelligent and curious of the group. Since he is the clone of the Ten Tails, it makes sense that he is the most objective, trying to understand humans from a purely analytical perspective. Thought this perspective will change into something more personal the more he learns about humans and love.

So we have Jura here announcing he wants, NEEDS, to devour Naruto to fill his void nature. As he says, it is an “instinctual desire”.

What is important in this scene isn't just the declaration, it’s the fact that the authors placed Hidari in the foreground without showing his face.

By hiding his expression, they signal that his reaction to Jura is significant, yet they keep the audience in the dark about his true feelings. This framing is intentional (and something that Kishi used a lot in Naruto), it creates a sense of mystery and emphasizes that Hidari is processing Jura's words in a way we aren't meant to understand yet.

After this, we see the other clones having no problem choosing their targets, and Jura congratulating them on WHY their choices are good.

But suddenly Hidari, who initially seemed fine, appears to be experiencing an existential crisis. Jura notices this shift, making him hyper-aware of Hidari and curious about who his target will be.

Then, after Jura explains again to Hidari how he will discover his target, the tension builds up and culminates in Hidari’s tense and menacing silence. He doesn’t even bring up Sarada until later, after Bug chooses Eida and Jura congratulates Bug. But…

By the way “ゴ” in Japanese manga is used to represent  a low, rumbling sound effect used to visualize an intense, menacing aura or a heavy atmosphere. Seems that Hidari is not really happy…

As you see, at the moment Bug chooses Eida, she is using her Senringan to spy on them. Jura comments on her EYE POWERS.

And only then, does Hidari out of nowhere say “UCHIHA…”, like remembering the Sharingan. And by this you can tell Sarada is an after thought since she is the last Uchiha.

That is why Jura doesn’t really congratulate him (his face is half hidden. Is he smirking or pouting??) and why there is so much tension between them, he knows that she is not his “real” target.

All this explains Jura keeping an eye on Hidari and bringing him, specifically, to look for Naruto + his reactions to Hidari.

And the lack of instinct Hidari shows for Sarada.

Bonus

I’ve talked about this in previous posts, but I’m bringing it up again because I think it’s really important.

First, Hidari in Japanese means “Left-hand”. This is the hand Sasuke lost in his fight with Naruto, but also the one that connects them.

Second, Jura mentioned that targets are visceral and the clones are guided by instinct. However, Hidari didn’t react to Sarada based on instinct alone. I talked about it here.

Third, every clone has a color that if we analyze represents their original/true nature or identity. But Hidari has “YELLOW”.

Fourth, Kishimoto started watching Harry Potter because of the fan comparisons. And he talks about Harry Potter in some interviews, he clearly likes it. And then we have Sasuke who acts and looks a lot like Snape. He even says that Boruto has “his father’s eyes” before getting sealed!!!

Fifth, in an interview, Ikemoto describes the clones as their originals' true face. And we have to remember that the sealed Sasuke thinks Naruto is dead, so Hidari is also living with that even if he doesn’t remember. I talked about it, here.

I’ve brought up these points before in other posts, so if you're interested in more context, feel free to read and comment!!🫶

By the way, this doesn’t mean Sasuke doesn't love Sarada. Of course he loves his daughter with all his heart!! But his bond with Naruto is just different. It’s the deepest connection that defined his entire life.

[anime97-99]

Hidari = “Left-Hand”

Hidari literally means “left-hand”.

The same hand he lost in his fight with Naruto.

The ONE that connects Sasuke to Naruto.

HIS IDENTITY

Hidari’s real target is Naruto, not Sarada.

The clones are guided by instinct, not logic.

I explained it in the images:

Jura is always hyperaware of him. Hidari isn’t just asking unnecessary questions about their origins.

But Jura also seems tense, possibly because Hidari’s target could be Naruto. That would interest him as well, since it would allow him to study love and conflict.

But it is also dangerous and risky that is why he keeps him close to keep an eye on him, to study him and because it could lead to danger too.

I have talked about this before in other posts too if you’re interested!!!

This is not amusement…

[iri-mi]

[orangelemonart]

I have this dream where you touch me like I'm precious to you

[sueske]

I just think it’s wild that kishimoto said he was embarrassed to write nh romance, was approached by sp with the script of the last where everything was retconned to which he only did minor revisions to, he used gaiden to make fun of both ss and nh but very heavily with ss, had someone else write retsuden, had a design company send him covers to choose from when it came to drawing light novel covers, had someone else illustrate the manga adaptation, and yet. and YET in a manga meant to focus on minato, he heavily involved kushina in the narrative and wrote romantic moments for them of his own volition. and he chose certain scenes for minakushi that ss and nh love from the original series and made fun of them by literally saying ‘THIS is mutual love’. he also made minakushi and sns parallels as the cherry on top like. wow respect 

[sasukekys]

sasuke reaches naruto fast enough to impress an anbu captain, but apparently he isn’t fast enough to attack naruto with his blade, even though sai, who managed to defend it, was the furthest away from them… i wonder why.

[greatestchange-deactivated20221]

Lmao! Sasuke has a cell phone. A FUCKING CELL PHONE. There is literally no excuse for him to not contact his so-called precious family. Lolol. I’m waiting SS fans. Where are your logical explanations for this?????

[truebond]

AND NARUTO APPARENTLY KNOWS THIS WHICH MEANS HE TALKS WITH HIM

I….I don’t know what to say about this right now.

This means Sasuke literally has no fucking excuse for not communicating with his family. It means that Sasuke, over his own family, will communicate with Naruto by phone or falcon.

I……I need a minute…

[50shadesofnarusasu]

Basically

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[badgalsasuke]

am i missing something because the whole indra and ashura thing was literally only their chakras not even the souls, otherwise hashimada (reanimated) wouldn't have been able to exist at the same time as sns. it's not even "pseudo-incest" or whatever antis say it is because chakra =/= souls.

Yep. It's the most convoluted storyline in the entire manga and I honestly have no idea why Kishimoto overcomplicated himself like that.

When we first meet Hagoromo the Sage of the Six Paths, he tells Naruto he's his son Ashura and that they're very similar.

And then starts explaining the differences in character between Indra and Ashura

We're told about this interminable conflict between this two forces after Indra rejected his father's decision to make Ashura the guardian of the Ninja realm. Now, here is where it gets kinda sketchy

We're told by Hagoromo that is their chakras that continue to be honed and reincarnated across time but also that Ashura reincarnated in Naruto and Indra in Sasuke. So are the chakras different and separate from the individual/self? or are the chakras and the individual/self two inseparable beings?

When Naruto asks Hagoromo about the previous hosts/reincarnations of Indra and Ashura's chakras we're told

Madara mixed Indra and Ashura's chakras which ended up giving him the rinnegan. Very important to keep in mind that at this point in the story Madara is still very much alive.

This tells us two things; first, one person can hold both Indra and Ashura's chakras meaning that you're not reincarnating the individual/self. If Madara was Indra's reincarnation he would not be able to also be the reincarnation Ashura, but since he and Hashirama were only hosting the chakras, Madara was then able to mix them both for himself.

Which leads us to Hagoromo telling us Madara is no longer the reincarnation of Indra even though he's still hosting/holding Indra and Ashura's chakras (it's starting to get very convoluted, right?).

On top of that, if Madara is the reincarnation of Indra then Sasuke wouldn't have been born because well... Madara is still alive. But if Madara is just the host of Indra's chakra & Sasuke exists at the same time Madara is alive then that means the chakra chooses new individuals as hosts and does NOT exclusively stay with one individual forever or as long as they live, that's why Sasuke exists and holds Indra's chakra even if Madara is still alive and holding still some Indra's chakra himself.

So we get that Indra, Madara and Sasuke are their own separate selves that simply share *some* of Indra's chakra.

Additionally, even though in previous panels Hagoromo said Naruto was very similar to Ashura and he's his reincarnation and the host of his chakra, he also tells us that Naruto's nature is unlike the one of the previous reincarnates.

Naruto also states that he's different from Ashura, stablishing through this convoluted reincarnation/hosts thing, that Naruto has his own sense of self, he is his own person separate from Ashura and Hashirama, just like Sasuke is separate from Indra and Madara.

After Hagoromo tells them to raise their dominant hand to give them his power. Naruto states he and Sasuke may not be true brothers (unlike Ashura and Indra) but they're really good friends (once again debunking the whole "sns is incest" bs). This is to make it clear that unlike Indra and Ashura but also unlike Madara and Hashirama, they will be able end the interminable conflict started thousands of years prior.

However, when we're introduced to Kaguya who is able to sense Indra and Ashura's chakras in Sasuke and Naruto she also first believes they are Hagoromo and Hamura, her sons.

Keep in mind Indra and Ashura are NOT Hagoromo and Hamura's reincarnations, they're Hagoromo's sons and only Indra inherited Hagoromo's chakra. So, which is it? Are Naruto and Sasuke reincarnations of Indra and Ashura? what do Hagoromo and Hamura have to do with this? do Naruto and Sasuke simply have those powerful chakras?

As the fight against Kaguya continues, she calls Naruto and Sasuke Ashura and Indra's reincarnates respectively. But even then, she still sees them more as Hagoromo and Hamura who sealed her thousands of years prior.

Woah this is such a mess and the worst part is that it is quite frankly unnecessary lmaoo.

Anyways, after Kaguya is sealed and Sasuke reiterates he's got to kill Naruto and all that, basically indicating that the interminable conflict Hagoromo had talked about is still going. Hagoromo then tells Naruto he has to handle it by himself because he won't be able to help him since he has to leave that realm asap to which Naruto responds:

Soooo after 21 godforsaken chapters (671-692) Kishimoto clarifies once and for all that no, Naruto and Sasuke aren't brothers, they're not reincarnations of Ashura and Indra selves but simply inherited their chakras (in Sasuke's case *some* of Indra's chakra as Madara still had some himself) with the intent of ending this interminable shinobi conflict, but they are their own person separate from the previous hosts of these chakras.

I suppose since they did, in fact, end the interminable conflict Hagoromo talked about then the chakras won't be inherited by anyone else anymore.

I also need to point out that the reason Kishimoto made them the hosts of these chakras is because throughout the entire manga he's been building up all this lore of Naruto and Sasuke being two halves that complement each other, soulmates or twin flames if you will, but his ass just had to make things overly complicated.

We see it in the cover art he made for ch. 671

I've already explained this entire artwork here

Lastly, Naruto and Sasuke are both descendants of Hagoromo but since he lived thousands of years prior to them, saying they're related would be as ridiculous as saying the descendants of Genghis Khan living today are relatives.

Sorry for the long reply but I really needed to show why they're not brothers because this whole storyline can be confusing af.

[bright-hope-spot-19]

No joke, I was scrolling through the blog of someone who claimed they liked Sasuke and had reblogged various posts in his defense. While looking at them, tho, I was hit with a massive amount of whiplash when I saw they had one pro-Sasuke post and literally, right beneath that one, the one below it was a post saying that they wished Sakura had gotten to punch him at least once in the face, real hard.

It's sooooo. Idk how to describe it. Thinking someone is pro-Sasuke just to be hit in the face with the fact that 'no, actually. They're also a Sakura fan who think she should've punched him and kicked his ass because the traumatized genocide and grooming survivor was mean to and raised his voice at her a few times.' You can't be pro Sasuke and pro Sakura at the same time. Being pro Sasuke inherently means that you want him to be freed from the shackles of a village that dehumanized him and still does. Being a Sasuke defender means that you want him free and away from all the people who viewed him as an object to be used and flaunted, including Sakura. Naruto, notwithstanding, as you could argue, he actually understood Sask better than anyone else. While being a Sakura fan implies that you think she had the potential to be a girlboss, but was done dirty, and a good surefire way to make her better is to let her punch and inflict even more pain on Sasuke. These two things cancel each other out. It's the same reason you can't claim to love Sasuke while shipping SS.

I'll literally never understand this fixation Sakura fans have with writing scenarios of her falling in love with every other character (which is fine!) It's just that they mainly do so under the premise and guise that 'they all would treat her better than Sasuke', mainly Ino and Lee. Presenting and treating it as if Sasuke was some abusive bf and she was his victim. Instead of him being a victim of genocide who wants to be left the heck alone. As well as fantasizing and making up scenarios of Sakura kicking his ass. Guys, even if Sakura ever managed to gain enough courage and resolve to challenge him to a fair fight (which she'd lose tremendously. Her fans are ridiculously delulu thinking she could win or stand a chance against Sasuke). That still wouldn't make her a good character.

Please, if you're just a Sakura fan who used to not like Sasuke until recently, and you just kinda support his hatred and revenge against the elders/village, but think he was mean, mysoginstic, or abusive to Sakura, stop posting content where it seems like you're defending him or you like or understand his character, cause you clearly don't.

Pd: Also, I wanted to add to this. It's something that some Sasuke fans have pointed out before me, but that's how overprotective Sakura fans are of her getting hurt? Especially by Sasuke. Like, they hate it specifically when she's hurt by him, and it's the main reason many of her fans don't like Sasuke and think she would've been better off with anyone else. These characters are shinobi. They were signed into a life of violence and pain. Sakura should be able to handle it whenever Sasuke is mean to her or tries to retaliate in self-defense. That kind of reaction is to be expected for a shinobi. Sakura, as a student of a Sannin, is expected to be able to walk it off with little complaints. How do her fans expect her to be able to fight Sasuke and punch him in the face if they can't even stand seeing her being put in a genjutsu by him without losing their minds and accusing him of being a mysoginist? It does not make sense. I've said it once in the past and will say it again if it bears repeating: if Sakura is really so delicate that she can't deal with a single attack or mean word from Sasuke without her (and her fans) breaking mentally, then shinobi was never a good occupation for her. Just saying.

[lufadinhaa]

One of the things that pisses me off the most in the Naruto fandom are the insufferable people — usually Sakura fans — that call Sasuke a rabid misogynist and an abuser for.... Well, the stupid reasons everyone probably knows about (making their poor baby suffer). Remember who you are talking about: A fucking state-sanctioned genocide, torture and extreme abuse survivor. HE is the victim here, not certain people that he rejected and told from the beginning to leave him alone. Sakura is a goddamn shinobi — literally a Konoha soldier —, not some glass-made princess; like, there is no reason for her to receive any special treatment...

[sourinartt]

Am I supposed to be surprised by the stupid things Sakura fans say?

Besides the dudebros they must be the most unbearable and illiterate beings in history

Look at all the stupidity they're displaying because they're angry that Naruto doesn't receive the same hate as their favorite character; they're accusing a 12-YEAR-OLD BOY of being a rapist, all misinterpreted

All this crap about the fake kiss that Kishimoto obviously made them not give is so Naruto can compare himself to Sakura lol, She expresses that she wants Sasuke's recognition, and minutes later Naruto admits he wants the same thing. "Now I understand why I love Sakura," he says, and then Kishimoto has Naruto go take a dump, wait until I laugh

Let's try again, she tried to kiss him, she was happy with the idea of stealing a kiss from Sasuke who didn't know if he was going to accept her, naruto was paralyzed

Let's take it one step at a time

he wanted to know her opinion about him, the one who leaned in for the kiss was skr.

he didn’t insult the uchiha, he was trying to motivate sasuke (which worked).

After all, Sasuke was talking about his clan and his position within it again, while Naruto was thinking about Lee And her intense training, her words only served to increase Sasuke's desire to take the exam. Just ask yourself if Sakura could inspire him the same way LMFAO

he was also a kid when he taught said kid a pervy jutsu, Since we're on the subject, Naruto hardly sees this jutsu as something sexual, but rather as an opportunity to get idiotic men to obey his every command, something Jiraiya teaches him again

he seeked attention because he was ostracized.

“thinking her crush was trying to kiss her” she’s the one initiating and leaning in, he froze up, did nothing and then ran off 💀 Again, Naruto didn't even want to kiss her; he just wanted to know the opinion of a girl who mistreated and insulted him without it bothering her, Can we talk about how she hits him because he kissed Sasuke? What right does she have? Because she's a child? Naruto didn't plan to kiss Sasuke either; Sakura feels he belongs to her and gets angry and hits Naruto

I can't believe their best argument is that Naruto is wrong for being a screaming, attention-seeking kid. I hope they never work with traumatized children

This shows that they don't even read the manga and rely on the anime or their own opinions, Naruto seeks attention because it's the only way he'll be noticed; he's a grumpy child and lives defensively because he's been mistreated for as long as he can remember, The world wanted him dead, for God's sake, do they really want him to be a kind child? He is, btw he can forgive that shitty village after all and protects it with everything he has

His attempts to protect Sakura with a false feminism that supports the argument "they hate her just for being a woman, and Naruto is okay because he's a man" don't work because Naruto grows as a person, Naruto literally fights against his own hatred so as not to hurt anyone; he lives defensively and insults, but he learns to love and respect when he reaches adolescence

Twelve-year-old Sakura is a rude, superficial, insecure girl who has no shame in comparing the Uchiha genocide to her own superficial feelings to Sasuke's face,Or ask yourself why she fought with Ino and then remained insecure about her, to the point that even her daughter wants to keep her away from Sasuke despite Ino already being married, We need to talk about his harassment of Sasuke and how unbearable he is when Sasuke says no to his 'romantic' advances, She is rejected time and time again, and although she only gets rejected, she keeps invading Sasuke. why don't they say anything here? whatever argument they want to make won't make Sakura's bad behavior about Naruto not having parents a good thing.

I'm sorry if I'm being too insulting, but it bothers me that they're so idiotic, spouting nonsense and proving they don't read manga to increase hatred towards Naruto, especially when he's a child, Naruto's story breaks my heart, I must say. The fact that he's so loud and attention-seeking is because he never had it as a child, He only saw eyes filled with hatred, insults, and death wishes. When he finally finds people he considers friends, he values them too much (and that's in the manga) This includes Sakura, who, although she was mean to him, he still considers a friend; in fact, even Ino loves her very much despite the fact that she was a jerk to her

Sakura is definitely not a worse character than Danzo, but she's not better than Naruto either. I'm sorry, she never grew as a person and doesn't learn from her mistakes.

His fans are getting dumber, they're no better than the male fans who make fun of female characters; they're disgusting. One of them, "akemii," even laughed at calling Naruto a rapist. It's disgusting

[badgalsasuke]

Hi !<3

There are some Sakura fans who argue that the scene where Sakura attempts to stab Obito's eye didn't actually take as long as it appeared in the anime. They claim that it was only a matter of seconds in the manga, and the anime extended the sequence for dramatic effect. Is this accurate?

Hi anon!

Well, the anime scene (without all the scenes in between) of Sakura & Obito when he asks her to stab his eye but then Madara arrives and Obito is forced to teletransport Sakura lasts just 1:43 minutes [LINK], so it's not that long to begin with.

Usually the anime adaptation extends the length of scenes because they add dialogue and stuff like that. But for this scene, the anime covers exactly everything from the manga, except for one extra line:

In the manga Obito says "Hurry up and destroy my Rinnegan, I can't hold off Black Zetsu any longer" (we get a panel of Sasuke fighting Madara here) then Sakura responds "I know!!"

In the anime Obito says the exact same line but on top of that they add Obito also saying "Quick!" and then Sakura responds "I know!!" this adds a few seconds to the interaction (this adaptation of the panel above only lasts 19 seconds) which is where fans complain "the anime made the scene too long" but what they did was show what was happening "off-screen" while Sasuke charged against Madara, so those few seconds added in the anime are what Sasuke and Madara's encounter lasted (5 seconds).

Basically, the anime didn't lengthened Sakura's hesitation to stab Obito, it lasts the exact same amount of time. She hesitated to stab him for some reason giving Madara enough time to arrive.

I leave all panels about this here:

Chapter 673:

Sakura's flashback in chapter 675 of what happened in between chapter 673 and 674:

Chapter 674:

Chapter 675:

You can see Sakura's hand trembling, hesitating to stab Obito and wasted time during a very delicate moment of the war. But why was she so nervous considering she's a trained medic ninja and she was doing a good job prior to this (like pumping Naruto's heart with her hand keeping him alive)?

We saw in previous chapters when Kakashi teletransported her and Naruto to this dimension she confesses she was terrified of Madara she even forgot to breathe and was gasping for air, so I would say she was still very scared and then Obito feeding that fear when he told her why it was of upmost importance to avoid Madara gets his rinnegan, would only make matters worse for Sakura.

Considering this it wouldn't be shocking that's why she was so terrified she couldn't stop trembling and made her fail at the task. It was definitely a failure on her part though. Medic ninjas should be able to control their emotions to avoid incidents like this. Think of Rin for example, who performed surgery on Obito and Kakashi after being tortured with genjutsu, while in the middle of battle, with his own teammate also on the brink of death, surrounded by enemies and falling rocks, and Rin was only 12.

[sasunarusatosugukillugon]

Naruto after he realizes his marriage is because of genjutsu and everything after that goes wrong 🥲

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Hokage was never your goal. Being acknowledged was. And that goal achieved the moment you became the world's hero.

At this point, you must have finally realized what your true goal was, right, Naruto?