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From an INFP, 4w5-9w8-6w7 sp/sx, Gryffindor, Neutral good ~ Please send me asks, I love to answer your questions!  Aesthetic requests are CLOSED

[mbtistufff]

hello! i’ve been contemplating for the longest time and still can’t seem to figure out what my core type is.. i know my tritype is 468 for sure, but the problem is that i had another person enneatype me and they said that there’s no way for me to be an 8 because of my mbti (NeFiTeSi) and that my behavior is mostly sx4 (which looks a lot like an 8) but i just don’t relate to any of the core fears or desires to confidently say i’m a 4.. it’s so tough! do you have any tips? i’ve looked everywhere and i am even with all these three (sx dom for all of them)

All of those types are the reactive types on the enneagram, so I understand how you may have confusion about which is your core.

Something to consider is do you mostly feel shame (4), fear (6), or anger (8)? I know sometimes when we're upset or scared our emotions can come out in the form of anger, or anger having sadness and shame underneath it, but try to consider which emotion you feel inside of yourself the most. Is there one that is more intense for you?

Another key difference between those types is that 4 is a withdrawn type, 6 is a compliant type, and 8 is an aggressive type. Yes, the outward behavior of an sx 4 can appear like an 8, but it is not an aggressive type in and of itself, so you would be more likely to withdrawal and internally stew on your emotions on your own before outwardly expressing them.

Also consider what makes you angry. Due to having shame at their core, SX fours are more sensitive to jealousy than 8s are. Their anger would be more likely triggered by jealousy, whereas an 8 would be angry because someone crossed their boundaries.

Hope this helps.

[mbtistufff]

hey whats the difference between 648 and 684??

Both types will be highly reactive, being they both have reactive types in their stack. 684 will be more in touch with their gut having 8 higher in their stack. This 6 will also likely be angrier, more outwardly reactive, and perhaps more counter phobic. The 648 by comparison would likely be a more artistic 6 and more inclined to wallow in their feels and fears prior to expressing them outwardly.

[mbtistufff]

may i ask you to help me with iv? i used to be very stereotypically so blind as a child but finding an accepting community made me enjoy the thought of connecting to people and participating in society. at the same time i'm not sure if being social'd worth it so i don't act on it much yet. and i'm sure i've sx so not so/sp thing. how to determine if i was an unhealthy sock or if i'm compensating for the so blindspot atm? and i generally look like being both sp and so blind simultaneously

It might help to look at the reasons you are struggling with both so and sp things. Our primary instincts consume us an individuals, to the point where they can actually become an unhealthy fixation. Whereas our blindspots are something we struggle with simply because they aren't a priority to us.

Consider if you're struggling with being social because you feel insecure in groups and avoid them out of a deep desire to belong and fear of rejection (an example of an unhealthy social dominant), or if you struggle with being social simply because it's not a priority for you (social blind)?

Similarly, do you think you're struggling with sp things because you worry about your physical needs and fear being without them, which can therefore ironically lead you to neglect them (an expression of unhealthy sp dominance), or simply because taking care of physical sp needs like food, shelter, money, and self-care just isn't a priority for you (sp blindness)?

If either one is your second instinct it may not be something you use all the time because it's not your first priority. You may neglect it for awhile, but when you do use it, it's not a struggle for you. Rather your second instinct will feel natural and comfortable for you. It's often the area where people feel most comfortable "playing" and being creative because it generally doesn't cause them issues or unhealthy fixations.

Hope this helps.

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[mbtistufff]

[k-enneagram]

Instincts - Self Preservation, Social, Sexual.

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Instinctual varients

Sp dom needs stability neurotically

So dom needs community neurotically

Sx dom needs connection neurotically

The first one is a neurotic obsession

Sp secondary wants stability and comfort

So secondary wants to have a community

Sx secondary wants connection

Secondary ones you strive for but can live without

Sp blind doesn't really care for personal stability as long as their connection to people and communities are good

So blind just wants connection and stability and doesn't worry much about group problems that don't affect them or someone they care about

Sx blind cares about comfort, security, and their community putting close relationships and connection below group or self needs

Blind instincts you don't think about much and usually will come up as an afterthought

[thebellekeys]

The chance you are NOT so-blind...

Instinctual variants. Instinct.

An instinctive reaction to the world around us in order to ensure our survival, and by extension, our well-being and fulfilment.

People treat so-blindness on the internet in the same way they treat inferior Se or Si - everyone thinks they're that. But rolling back from the functions for a minute, I need to reiterate as the utter typology geek that I am, that your blind-spot isn't what you suck at, it's just what doesn't occur to you. It's the thing you don't see; the thing you don't feel preoccupied by a lot.

Many an introvert on this site think that because they don't like generic activities of socialization, like parties, gatherings, ceremonies, thanksgiving, whatever, that they may be so-blind. People also think that because they're socially awkward or a loner or the local "weirdo" (cue Jughead, lmao) that they're so-blind when this may simply not be true.

Think about it this way: growing up you may be that kid who wanted to fit in, but who felt overwhelmed by society and social structures. You may have wanted to be the kid with a lot of friends, and maybe you wanted that sooo badly that you ended up being socially awkward and later, an outcast. None of this is a clear sign that you're so-blind. You were preoccupied by the social instinct. It was your instinct to reflect on it.

Your blind spot is what you don't think about, what you don't consider, what you don't care about. If you think about social structures, the wellbeing of society, the way people and social hierarchies operate, even if you consider yourself an outsider to all of that, then you may not be so-blind.

Like, you can go to a party and sit outside and carefully analyse the actions of those around you, maybe even feel overwhelmed all of the society around you. Or, you can go and just... not notice all of those things because other issues have your attention and you just can't be bothered; you're oblivious. The latter is actually a sign of so-blindness.

To conclude, I think a lot of introverts, even those with inf Fe, may actually be so-users. They just simply have a negative conception of and suckish usage of the social instinct. But it doesn't mean they're blind to it. They just suck at employing it. It's a bad idea to type yourself based on your blind spot to begin with: you don't know what you don't know.

This was so long, and for what? Lmao.

The chance you're not sp-blind.

The chance you're not sx-blind.

[thebellekeys]

The chance you are NOT sx-blind...

Okay, if you have a solid understanding of the variants and you fully understand sx, then you'll know if you're an sx-dom, and it's also not that hard to identify if you're sx-aux if you know yourself. Usually, if people relate in the slightest to sx-blind descriptions then they maybe ARE sx-blind.

So the crux of the issue is identifying exactly what sx-blindness is. Which is difficult because it's so easy to conflate it for a myriad of other things. The thing is, the only way to effectively portray what sx is is by its descriptions, almost all of which are so internal? So people like to give sx these descriptions that sound near-universal anyway.

It comes across as "I wanna find my soulmate and be in love and just be with that one person who is the centre of my world and I just wanna burn". And weirdly, that description isn't wrong. But there's so much loaded in that description that someone who isn't an sx-user might relate to it. Only an actual sx-user can effectively discern the difference between the universal, romantic descriptions of the sexual instinct and then what sx truly feels like. Sx seems to be the most abstract and wack instinct of the three.

And now, we have the dilemma: Am I misunderstanding sx and just living out an edgy Tumblr fantasy in my head because I love the idea of being in love? Or am I an actual sx-dom?

Now here's my take: there's inherent disappointment, extreme idealism, a bit of delusion, and heavy romanticism in being an sx-dom. And you know it. You live with it. Because you cannot under any circumstance allow yourself to live without that drive for sx's intensity and fulfilment. There is that utter fear that it'll never manifest, but the alternative? The mundane nature of living? Never. Dreams and experiences are all essentially worthless if you don't have that flame of sx. If you never get to explode then it's all for naught, right? But you'd rather keep yearning for that explosion and intensity than deal with that awful alternative that is the emptiness of life in the absence of sx.

So, you're not sx-blind if you feel the above. Nonetheless, if your 'sx' doesn't go beyond wanting to fall in love with and maybe marry someone/be committed, then that's probably not a sign of sx.

Tagging @only-the-goodest-vibes

The chance you are not sp-blind.

The chance you are not so-blind.

[thebellekeys]

The chance you are NOT sp-blind...

My dude, sp-blindness is embarrassing, like keep that shit to yourself. Like, don't go around brandishing it???

Okay, no, kidding, kidding.

So in all realness, I'm gonna conclude that too many people think they're sp-blind because "omg I forgot to comb my hair this morning, teehee, I'm so random and forgetful, haha, I'm not neat and tidy like the other girls, uwu"... ma'am?

It's just: being sp-blind isn't mere forgetfulness or even being absent-minded. It's literally not caring about preserving yourself, not caring about looking after your needs, not caring about the maintenance of yourself and your personal environment. It's a gross thing in essence- it affects cleanliness, hygiene, well-being, alertness. And the worst part is that you don't even realize how immature it looks most of the time (unless you're a type 3 or a type 1).

Sp-blindness is literally not cleaning your bedroom or your bathroom for months because it just didn't occur to you how gross your setting is at least once until someone else comments on it. Sp-blindness is shivering when it's freezing cold but not thinking to turn up the temp because you just didn't notice that your lip is blue. Sp-blindness is being hungry for a whole day and not realizing you're starving until you're nearly ready to pass out. You're so preoccupied with the intensity of the human experience/social structures that you lose yourself in the process. Let's not even get into the budgeting/lack thereof of sp-blinds...

There's definitely a correlation between being a sheltered/rich kid and being sp-blind too- nurture inevitably influences your instinctual responses to things. Like, if you had a maid that cooked, washed, cleaned, and parents that spoiled you, the chances are that your health and well-being, which were always in the hands of others, may not be your top priority.

But I dunno why out of all the blind spots, sp-blindness is so romanticized. It's not cute not being able to take care of yourself. It can affect your autonomy as a person. It can even get you killed.

Have you ever seen what an sp-blind's bathroom looks like if they live alone??? Like, it's not "I don't care about having a skincare routine so I'm sp-blind". Contemporary means of beautification are not... part of self-preservation. It's not "I don't care how untidy my notes are once I can read it, therefore I'm sp-blind". Self preservation is not about aesthetics either, lmao. It's about doing what you need to assure your wellbeing, health and ultimate survival.

The chance you are not sx-blind.

The chance you're not so-blind.

Tagging @only-the-goodest-vibes

[estj-destroyer-of-misinformation]

Guidelines for Tritype/IV Evaluation

1.      Desires and Fears

1s desire perfection and fear unworthiness

2s desire love and fear abandonment

3s desire success and fear failure

4s desire specialness and fear normalcy

5s desire knowledge and fear incapability

6s desire security and fear instability

7s desire stimulation and fear entrapment

8s desire autonomy and fear enslavement

9s desire peace and fear disruption

2.      Order

The first fear and desire are those of your core type

This is followed by your wing

Then by your first fix

Then by your second fix

Then by your first fix’s wing

Then by your second fix’s wing

3.      Instinctual Variants’ Effect

Sp 1 turns its critical eye towards itself and thinks itself is in need of perfection.

So 1 upholds itself as a banner of virtue for others to follow as a mentor.

Sx 1 turns its critical heat and anger towards the outside world and thinks the outside world is in need of perfection.

Sp 2 acts in a childlike fashion to endear other to it.

So 2 helps the broader environment and takes on tasks to endear itself to others.

Sx 2 seduces an individual with a special relationship to endear itself to that person.

Sp 3 acts against vanity and overfocuses on its work and letting it speak for itself.

So 3 focuses on networking and presenting its polished image to as many people as possible.

Sx 3 tries to live up to a masculine or feminine ideal and make a strong attractive impression on others.

Sp 4 acts stoically and focuses on suffering in silence.

So 4 chronically compares itself to others to develop its identity.

Sx 4 focuses on sharing its powerful personal experience with others through emotional rawness and aggressive honesty.

Sp 5 focuses on hobbies and a safe space they can retreat to.

So 5 plays an advisor role to others and collects helpful information.

Sx 5 collects darker information and shares secrets or interesting information as a method of connection.

Sp 6 focuses on material safety and obsesses over details to keep itself secure.

So 6 ties itself to systems, organizations, and social roles to keep itself secure.

Sx 6 desperately ties itself to ideals of strength and bravery to keep itself secure.

Sp 7 focuses on lifestyle and personal, often permanent, pleasures (nice houses, fast cars, sex, etc.) as opposed to outside stimulation.

So 7 focuses on a utopian and idealistic image of the future and gives to others in the optimistic assumption they will give back.

Sx 7 focuses on new and sensational ideas and distractions with a focus on fresh experience.

Sp 8 acts as a survivalist and gathers the resources it needs to exist entirely independent of others.

So 8 acts as a protector to those around it and tries to remain powerful by shielding those less powerful.

Sx 8 acts in direct rebellion and emotional rawness against others, testing itself against others to find an ideal partner strong enough to surrender (often this search is unconscious.)

Sp 9 focuses on gathering resources so that it can remain stationary and uninvolved.

So 9 acts as an active peacemaker and works towards helping others to avoid conflict.

Sx 9 searches for an ideal partner to remain in stasis with, who will not disturb them or have conflict with them.

4.      Example

My friend is a 3w4 7w8 1w2 sx/sp

His core desires go:

Success>specialness>stimulation>perfection>autonomy>love

His core fears go:

Failure>normalcy>entrapment>unworthiness>enslavement>abandonment

His 3 is attractiveness focused with a side of work focus.

His 7 is fresh experience focused with a side of lifestyle focus.

His 1 is zeal focused with a side of self-criticism focus.

5.      Making the connections

This is a more intuitive (not iNtuitive) process. Make the connections from the basic core fear and desire (example: the core fear of failure feeds into all these other fears as a root cause and all these other fears in combination feed these behaviors)

Look at how the single core fear plays into every other behavior at play and every other fear at play. Flavor each attitude and behavior and fear based on every other factor.

And in conclusion, you have your type evaluated. Congratulations. Go forth into the world in full glory.

[theseeker469-blog]

469 Communication and Compatibility

(phobic 6 only)

469 may say a lot of things like “I thought maybe”, “it could be”, “that’s what I thinking so far, but I’m not too sure,” “I imagine,” “I’m not too certain, but,” “just an idea I had, I’m not too sure of it,” and if they can they will phrase the things they want to say as questions instead of statements. If you don’t do this you probably don’t have a p6. I’m not too sure if cp6 would act that way, they are unlikely for this tritype and it’s kinda hard to imagine the 9 with 6cp.

If they are 6w7 4w3 they will be more likely to seek and be open to people and socialising. 4w5 6w5 will be more take-it-or-leave-it, do-it-you-self, withdrawn and aloof. Although this tritype is shy and withdrawn regardless.

They may have unique styles of speech. They will most likely be very agreeable, but questioning. They may even make you question yourself.

They are most likely to get a long with 2s, 9s, 5s, 7s, and p6s. Least likely to get a long with core 8s with no 2, 5 or 7. Although this is just my calculated guess.

They will probably feel uneasy around people who seem too loud, critical and complaining as they fear being wrong and don’t like conflict.

My best friend is a 952 the problem solver. It seems like a pretty ideal pairing, they are well equipped to deal with the seeker’s questioning and doubting with their problem solving nature. The 9 makes them calm, the 2 and 5 give reassurance to the 6 and the 2 give the 4 caring and understanding. And it would probably be beneficial to the 259 as well as it suits their nature.

[mbtistufff]

A Way to Figure out Tritype- How do you come across to others?

Gut types:

Type 8- Strong

Type 9- Accepting

Type 1- Correct

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Heart Types:

Type 2- Generous

Type 3- Charming

Type 4- Unique

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Head Types:

Type 5- Aloof

Type 6- Warm

Type 7- Fun

[personalitiesinwriting]

[mbtistufff]

Hi, just came across your blog and it's very interesting! Will stay here for sure. I'm not very good with enneagrams yet, but I've done some research and, if you don't mind and you still do asks, I would like to ask about one thing. I'm pretty sure I'm 6w5 and I think my tritype is 649, however I'm a bit more impulsive, extraverted and not necessarily seek stability. How do I know if my tritype is 649 or 648?

It might help to look at the triple focus of each tritype. The 649 belongs to the "seeker" tritype group (any combination of 4, 6, and 9). People with this tritype focus will be more self-doubting, and their doubt will lead them to constantly seek out more information. The 648 belongs to the "truthteller" tritype group (any combination of 4,6, and 8). People with a tritype in any of these combinations will be more reactive, and also be truth tellers in their interactions with people, to the point where it might get them in trouble.

469 tritypes- seeking out the truth

468 tritypes- telling the truth

469 tritypes- seeking out more information to cope with doubt and uncertainty and calm down

468 tritypes- warning others of potential danger to cope with doubt and uncertainly and calm down

Hope this helps.