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ALL ENNEAGRAM TYPES AS DOGS

Ever wondered what each Enneagram type would be like as a dog? Here's a quick breakdown of their type ! 🐕

Want to dive deeper into each type? Check them out here : One / Two / Three Four / Five / Six Seven / Eight / Nine

I'm curious : tag your type and let me know if the description fits!

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𝔼𝕩𝕡𝕝𝕒𝕚𝕟𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕙𝕠𝕨 ℕ𝕖 + 𝔽𝕚 𝕨𝕠𝕣𝕜𝕤 (𝔼ℕ𝔽ℙ 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕀ℕ𝔽ℙ)

xNFPs are some of the most popular types of people within this community, but the two types are often misunderstood. Primarily, INFPs are seen as “emotional crybabies” and ENFPs are seen as “overly-excited manic pixie girls”. In this post, I will mainly summarise the primary functions of both mbti types and also debunk misconceptions and stereotypes. Since my previous post became quite popular, I will debunk <all> function combinations in MBTI, and if I have time I will also go over the jungian combinations like IN(IF) (Ni-Fi, aka ISFP in loop), ET(EN) (Te-Ne), etc.

I am not sticking 100% to Jung’s own interpretations and I included some modern MBTI interpretations. I have not fully read Jung’s works and when I have, I will make posts talking about the types in detail (the book is like 988 pages, I ain’t reading all of that).

*ೃ༄Introverted Feeling*ೃ༄

Fi: Introverted feeling is a function focused primarily on subjective viewpoints in terms of emotions. Opposite to Te, which focuses on objectivity and the truth outside of their own viewpoints, Fi is determined to understand their personal perception of everything. Fi builds a personal, internal moral compass, one that does not necessarily align with external social values or group harmony. Fi is a judging function (in jungian), meaning it filters experiences through a personal lens of what feels right or wrong, good or bad, beautiful or ugly. Like Ti, which values internal logical consistency, Fi values internal moral consistency and makes decisions based on if the action aligns with their values and beliefs.

How it manifests: It is still a cognitive function related to thinking. Contrary to misconceptions, Fi is often not the “whiny emotionally expressive crybaby”. Fi, as described by Jung, is oftentimes very emotionally distant and has a hard time expressing their feelings. Fi is a rational type in jungian, meaning that the focus is on analyzing subjective values rather than <experiencing> said feelings. Generally, Fi users excel at empathizing on an individual and deep level, rather than a broad social one. Fi prioritizes individuality more than collectivism, making them rebels when their integrity is questioned. Fi usually makes a person who is oftentimes very sensitive to being misunderstood or being hurt. Introspective, deep, and philosophical, high Fi users are often very good at understanding who they are outside of societal expectations and norms.

Behaviors that can exist due to dominant Fi:

Reclusiveness, quietness, refusal to express and explain their feelings. Finds it hard to open up

Fells things deeply. Sentimental, poetic, and introspective. As a great understanding of why they feel a certain way

May appear stoic and unassuming on the outside. However, they have an intense inner emotional life

Can be self-oriented and biased when making decisions, can be stubborn at times and dogmatic with their viewpoints

Has a love for abstraction of emotions: ideas such as love, patronism, passion, loyalty, and pain are appealing

Attached to internal moral code. Indifference to socially accepted morals  / ethics

Dedicated to finding their true self and personal identity. Trusts their own intuition and conscience

*ೃ༄Extroverted Intuition*ೃ༄

Ne: Extroverted feeling is a function that values possibilities, abstract patterns, and exploration. Ne craves novelty and open-endness, neglecting the focus on reality or the current state of the world. Ne is a very scatterbrained function: it jumps from idea to idea, lacking focus on any particular idea. Ne is good at spotting hidden connections and spotting trends between abstract ideas. Overall, Ne is the function that generates “what ifs” by connecting dots. It takes one idea/information and generates dozens of ideas/concepts, like a funnel. Ne has a frustration against reality, wanting to break boundaries and seek things that are outside of their current capacities and circumstances. Hating the past and the present, Ne constantly dreams of a future that is not grounded. Ne is very opportunistic: it is a type that has an eye on potential ways the future can enroll.

How it manifests: Ne’s manifestation in behavior can be erratic. Oftentimes, people associate Ne dominants to be sporadic, scatter-brained, and talkative. This is not always true. But what is true is that this is not a very practical type. Ne users are not focused on “seeing the existing stable situation”, as Jung has said, but rather focused on the future, possibilities, and what could happen. Because Ne users are not rational types (leading with F or T), they are highly impractical, oftentimes excited for the future. The most visible manifestation of Ne is the habit of escapism aka. consistently making plans to escape reality. The other is having a dislike towards routines. What I mean is that Ne goes against Si, which tends to favor routines, predictability, and nostalgia. Ne constantly seeks for the new and novel. Adding onto the hatred for routines, Ne also hates restriction. Ne oftentimes makes a very adventurous person, interested in exploration and disliking those who are not open to such ideas.

Behaviors that can exist due to dominant Ne:

Oftentimes has a sanguine attitude towards life. Easily excited for the future, but oftentimes drops ideas coldly after feeling a burning passion towards it. Lacks the ability to commit to any particular idea or goal

Has issues with being concise or explaining their ideas in a concise way. Scatterbrained and random, that is their thinking style. A trivial habit is the tendency to write walls of text without breaking them into concise paragraphs that sort based on main ideas. 

Similar to above, Ne users do not know the difference between important and unimportant ideas. Likes the idea of all possibilities being open

Hates rules, regulation, and restriction

Has a liberal look towards life (not always political). Likes change and dislikes people who are attached to traditions and practicality

Curious, adventurous, and excited for what life can be like. Dreamy, out of touch, and dislikes the current reality

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Enneagram 4 Subtypes Explained

Social 4 "Shame"

The social 4 looks to create connection with others through the exploration melancholy and brokenness. Unlike the other 4s this subtype looks to share their depth with others. Imo they subvert allot of the traditional notions of the E4. They aren't as withdrawn as the SX and Sp subtypes. And whole they do maintain a level of difference within they still look to fulfill that need for emotional depth with others. A tendency that pops with the So4 is the need to create that social circle while struggling to remain their own self. This subtype tend to express their difference through being an outsider or extremely sophisticated with unique tastes. Usually among to attract others while maintaining their boundary of eccentricity. They are hard to mistake as any other type in my opinion however they can look like the stereotype of a 3w4 (due to being pretentiousness) or a 9.

Characters: Anna Karenina, Mark Jefferson, Blue Diamond, Diane Nyguen, Lisa, Anne of Green Gables, Jin Kazaa and Catherine Meyer.

The Self Preservation 4 "Tenacity"

The Sp4 finds it self trying to mitigate their envy due to being a counter type. Usually this 4 is not looking to be different but rather to have a different type of life. As the counter type of 4 they dont overexposes their melancholy and rage but rather they tend to keep it to themselves. This 4 tries to find a different path in the world without following tradition or social expectations. They are a bit more idealistic with their pursuits choosing lifestyles, style or professional life. This subtype can look like a 6 (due to their calm and environment oriented thinking).

Characters: Elio Perlman, Rose DeWitt Bukater, Eleven, Belle, Sebastian, Wicked Witch, Violet Harmon and Susana Kaysen.

The Sexual 4 "Hate"

Probably the most well known 4. This subtype is the most expressive and "aggressive" about their sense of uniqueness. They are highly interested in creating a relationship with another that fulfills that bond of difference and uniqueness. They tend to be the most expressive of their envy. To the sexual 4 the most important thing is not to be mediocre. By this I mean that the 4s see everything that doesn't have emotional and personal depth is beneath them. While many texts describe them as aggressive id say they are closer to passionate. The SX4 interest and frustration find depth within interpersonal relationships leads them to look like enneagram 8s.

Characters: Kylo Ren, the phantom, Maleficent, Loki, Jason Todd, Helen Sharp, Lucille Sharpe and Zuko

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K-Pop Demon Hunters Enneagram

Rumi - 1w2

At her core, Rumi is a perfectionist who does everything in her power to make sure things go as planned. She doesn’t want to be perceived as bad or immoral, which is a core value for type 1’s. However, with her wing, she does so in a more assertive way, choosing to play the savior rather than see how things play out and then react. This causes her to get upset when things go wrong, or when people see her as evil rather than a good person.

Zoey - 9w1

Zoey is very non-confrontational and does everything in her power to make everyone happy. She does this by trying to, in her own words, “play both sides” and tends to stray away from conflict. She often seems afraid of causing conflict and hurt feelings, and is constantly trying to please everyone, in whatever way she can. Her type 1 wing allows her to be accommodating to those around her, rather than assertive.

Mira - 4w3

Mira hates conformity and chooses to be herself no matter how others feel. Still, her biggest desire is to be loved for who she is, and to be in a family. She chooses to do this by performing and achieving success with the traits people shamed her for having. Her 3 wing causes her to seek external validation, often feeling hurt when others have lied or she doesn’t know if she can trust them.

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Spike's MBTI Type, Big Three, Enneagram Type and Moral Alignment Type

MBTI Type: ISFP [The Adventurer]

ISFP types need plenty of personal space. Though they enjoy building connections with people, they need alone time to think and recharge.

They are very observant, especially focusing on the details more than the overall view. They live in the present and tend to base decisions on what they can see right now.

Adventurers also prioritize emotion when making decisions. They prefer to follow what feels right.

They don’t like schedules, but instead prefer to keep their options open. They are adaptable, spontaneous, and like to challenge the need for strict rules.

Big Three: Aquarius Sun, Aries Moon and Scorpio Rising

Aquarius Sun: Aquarius is ruled by Saturn and Uranus, which makes them seek out unique ways to problem-solve and to approach life. They're known to be intellectual and innovative.

Aries Moon: Lunar Aries are known to be emotionally responsive and impulsive at times, as they lead with fiery passions over than logic or reason.

Scorpio Rising: Prone to turning heads, Scorpio ascendents ooze with magnetism and dynamism. They're not known to back away from a challenge. 

Enneagram Type: 4w3 [The Enthusiast]

Basic Fear: Four wing threes’ deepest fear is that they have no significance in the world. They tend to express this by frequently distinguishing themselves from the rest of the world.

Basic Desire: They desire uniqueness and personal identity. They long to be authentically different, which may lead them to intense bouts of creativity and self-expression.

Enthusiasts may defend themselves by unconsciously adapting characteristics of others to seem more authentic.

Moral Alignment Type: Chaotic Neutral [The Free Spirit]

Free from societal constraints, these characters prioritize their own freedom and make choices based on their whims.

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Ten Pics that remind me/make me think of Enneagram Type 4s

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The Apothecary Diaries Personality Types: Jinshi

Here's another character where I disagree with the majority opinions on their Enneagram. Many people see Jinshi as 2w3 or 3w2, but I see him differently. Here's why!

Jinshi's Enneagram

Wound: Jinshi was born an heir to the throne and the title of Emperor. He feels overshadowed by the current emperor, who he believes is his brother.

Wounding message: This is the role you must play because of your birth.

Core desire: To live his life on his own terms; to be seen and appreciated for who he really is, and not just the beautiful mask the world sees.

Core fear: Becoming emperor and remaining trapped in the imperial palace.

Defense mechanism: Jinshi uses his charm and appearance to get what he wants.

Strengths: Jinshi is charming, clever, cunning, loyal, sensitive to others' desires, and willing to take his future into his own hands

Challenges: Jinshi is childish, jealous, possessive, needy, takes things personally, has very low self-esteem, and wears a mask except around those he knows best

When healthy: Jinshi drops the mask more and lets his negative feelings (particularly his anger) show

When unhealthy: Jinshi becomes more childish, needy, sulking, etc...

Looking at all of this, here's what connects when I go back to the Enneagram post:

Wound: 1, 2, 3, or 9

Wounding message: 2 or 3

Core desire: 3, 4, or 7

Core fear: 4

Defense mechanism: 4

Strengths: 4 or 6

Challenges: 2, 4, or 7

When healthy: 2, 3, 4, or 7

When unhealthy: 1 or 4

Jinshi is an Enneagram 4.

Much like Peeta, Jinshi presents with a lot of characteristics of 2, but this is because he hasn't done his growth yet (in a character arc sense).

Fours go to Two when stressed, so they act more Two-ish during these times. Twos, on the other hand, go to Eight when stressed. I don't see Jinshi becoming "aggressive, controlling, argumentative, blunt, demanding" really ever.

I also don't see Jinshi worrying that he's not needed or wanted (as is the main concern of Twos). He knows he's wanted, but it bothers him that it's only because of his attractive appearance, and not who he really is deep down. (This is part of why Maomao's reaction to him delights him so much!) He also knows he's needed, or at least expected, to fulfill an important role in the Imperial Court. He worries this will keep him from living the life he truly desires.

Fours live in the Heart center, and tend to overexpress sadness/shame. From Personality Path:

Shame or Sadness is overexpressed by Type 4s. Type 4s are complex characters, which means shame and sadness express very differently in the three Type 4 subtypes.  Anger reactions are deeply influenced by the subtype, with the Sexual Type 4 being described as the angriest type in the Enneagram, whereas the Social Type 4 may express anger more mildly. Anger can be triggered by a wide range of things ranging from feeling misunderstood or unseen, to reacting to slights, real or imagined. This personality style can have a pattern of taking things personally. Fear can be triggered by comparisons with others (with themselves chronically falling short), or anxiety that they will not leave a meaningful mark on the world.  Subconscious envy is often at the bottom of the core three emotions for Type 4s.

Wing

The Enneagram Institute calls 4w3 "The Aristocrat" and 4w5 "The Bohemian". Jinshi is a 4w3. From Truity:

4w3s tend to be more energetic and driven than other Fours. They seek to make an impact in the world while maintaining a deep sense of self. They are more sociable and image conscious than other Fours.

Yuki Sohma from Fruits Basket and Peeta Mellark from The Hunger Games are both 4w3s.

Subtype

I think Jinshi is most likely an SP 4w3. From Enneagram Explained:

Focuses On:  The need to be themselves in order to have their physical needs met. SP 4s are the Countertype of type 4 as they react in an opposite way with their vice (envy). They work to get what they feel others have/that they lack (not generally material envy but a more characteristic/wholeness envy). Nicknamed the “happy 4” they tend to keep the sad/hard emotions for behind closed doors. Relationship to Their Vice (envy): SP 4s tend to suppress their envy. Potential Mistypes: SP 4s can often look like type 1s, 3s, or 7s.

Jinshi shares this subtype with Yuki Sohma.

I have felt that Jinshi reminds me of Yuki in many ways - he's admired for a version of himself he feels is false, he's put on a pedestal but is actually deeply unhappy, he's charming and willing to use that charm to get his way despite its effect on his already very low self-esteem, he's very private about his true feelings and self and really much more childish than he seems at first, he's naturally a kind person, and his true self loves to tease those he's closest with.

It's worth noting that, while Yuki is easier to spot as a 4 than Jinshi, I personally think 4w3s and SP 4s are harder to identify as Fours than 4w5s and SO 4s (Yuta Okkotsu is both of these, for example).

It's also worth noting that not only is Jinshi's wing a 3-wing, but his subtype is often mistyped as a Three!

Tritype

With 4 as his Heart type, I think Jinshi's Head type is probably a 7, maybe a 6. I think his Gut type is probably 9, though I can't really rule out 8 or 1.

Looking at the descriptions, I actually think 4-7-8 ("The Messenger") is the best fit.

From Katherine Fauvre's website:

If you are a 478, you are intuitive, innovative, and protective. You want to be original, creative, and straightforward. A cutting-edge tracker of both your internal and external worlds, you are an unconventional, passionate, and self-possessed master of solutions. You seek what is new and innovative with a strong need to share what you learn with others. Outwardly, you come across as confident with a sense of panache, but inwardly, you are emotionally sensitive and shy.  

The only other 478 I've analyzed is Mine Kuramae from Fruits Basket.

Jinshi's MBTI

Sticking with my more recent format, here's how I see Jinshi's mental processes:

Information-Gathering:

Everyone uses both iNtuition and Sensing, but one will be more natural to rely on. Everyone will also introvert one of these processes, and extrovert the other.

Someone who introverts iNtuition and extroverts Sensing will be able to cut to the core of understanding something in a state of deep, solitary focus. They will gather sensory information through their experience in the present, preferably with others.

Someone who extroverts iNtuition and introverts Sensing will tend to brainstorm aloud, connecting many possibilities at once, and will rely on comparisons to past sense-memories in order to understand the present.

I suspect Jinshi uses Ni and Se, with a slight preference for Ni. This would make him an -N-J type.

Decision-Making:

Just like with the two information-gathering processes, everyone uses both Thinking and Feeling to some degree, but will use one more naturally. And again, they will introvert one, and extrovert the other.

Someone who introverts Thinking and extroverts Feeling will use their own internal logical framework to come to decisions, and will base their decisions on outcomes for the people around them.

On the other hand, someone who extroverts Thinking and introverts Feeling will use external logic in decision-making, such as rules, laws, procedures, checklists, etc... and will base their decisions on the kind of person they want to be, or the kind of person they see themselves to be.

I think Jinshi uses Ti and Fe, with a preference for Fe.

This would make him an -NFJ type.

I've been going back and forth on this, but I do think it's most likely that he uses Fe as his Dominant process, making him an ENFJ, also called "The Teacher".

Let's look at what Dominant Fe looks like:

Seeks harmony with and between people in the outside world. Interpersonal and cultural values are important. Encouraging and interested in others. Keyword: Harmonizing.

When exaggerated:

unrealistic visions, only accept data that supports their theories, make things overcomplicated

Inferior Se:

insistent they know what is best for everyone, intrusive, ignore problems, force superficial harmony

And the description of ENFJ:

Warm, empathetic, responsive, and responsible. Highly attuned to the emotions, needs, and motivations of others. Find potential in everyone, want to help others fulfill their potential. May act as catalysts for individual and group growth. Loyal, responsive to praise and criticism. Sociable, facilitate others in a group, and provide inspiring leadership.

To be honest, I'm not sure whether this is a great description of Jinshi, but I do feel it's the closest I can get for now. Maybe I'll change my mind! I do feel that the description of INFJ sounds more like him, but the processes of INFJ don't sound as much like him, so I don't really know.

Other ENFJs include Tamaki Suoh, from Ouran High School Host Club, Kyoko Honda and Mayuko Shiraki, both from Fruits Basket, and Peeta Mellark again.

Jinshi's Personality Summary

Enneagram: SP 4w3 (The Individualist/The Aristocrat)

Tritype: 4-7-8 (The Messenger)

MBTI: ENFJ (The Teacher)

Jinshi almost has two selves; there's the confident, ethereally beautiful, graceful, mature eunuch he presents to the world, and the immature, needy, emotional teenager with low self-esteem that he only lets a few select people see. He's highly aware of his role in the world, and he desires to rebel against that predetermined future and forge his own path. He cherishes Maomao because she was never fooled by the mask he wears, and because she's authentic in a way he admires.

What do you think? Do you agree with my analysis? Why or why not?

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