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like im not pro-censorship but i think if the internet archive is going to host holocaust denial and antisemitic propaganda they should at least put a warning with resources on it
I need y’all to realize that it’s on there because of their anti censorship policies, not because they’re unable to to monitor. It comes up at the top of the page when you search “Jews”. You don’t have to look hard for it.
This was literally the 8th result:
this was the 13th result:
you only have to scroll to page 3 to get this:
this justin chatter guy has uploaded tons of unabashed holocaust denial and neonazi propaganda.
i should not have to say this but this is obviously dangerous and hateful content that could lead to radicalization.
Compare this to rateyourmusic, a website I have been using regularly for years. They are also very anti-censorship and include Nazi material on the site as it is meant to be an encyclopedia of all the music of all time. However, they put warnings on any page that contains Nazi material with a disclaimer that the site does not support that content and that it’s simply there for their mission of cataloging music. RYM also is made up of user input. If a user uploads something that isn’t tagged properly as containing Nazi material, their upload will be rejected. Other users vote on whether a submission is adequate.
Here's what RYM puts as a warning on their site:
I like the internet archive. I use it regularly. It’s an incredible resource and a fantastic organization. I just wish they would do more to keep Jewish people safe.
Both of these tags are right. I love when a cat will just put up with your silly human games. They love you and know you love them and are just happy with you.
"cats are incapable of love" cats understand affectionate bothering, something it takes years-long relationships to develop between humans
it’s always a red flag when something is phrased as “touch not the impure lest you become contaminated” instead of, like, an actual description of who it hurts, who it helps, how and why
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This is why you see so many many many "we can't vote our way out of this" posts online. They know that sentiment will depress turnout. Turnout that will get the people paying them kicked out of power.
Vote
Hungarian voters were smart on an individual level, throwing their support behind Magyar over how they might have traditionally voted, but there was an institutional element to it as well: it took most of the other parties dropping out of contention in order to clear the decks and avoid vote-splitting, which was a brave and principled thing for them to do.
To put this in American terms: They teamed up to elect Mitt Romney to defeat Donald Trump, something our left would never do.
We couldn't get people to team up to elect Harris, who was better than Romney would have been.
The problem isn't "the left" but the centrists.
It wasn't the centrists screaming "Holocaust Harris" at the anti-Trump candidate. Particularly galling, as Harris "earned" this epithet for the crime of not endorsing the mass murder of Jews.
Kamala Harris was the single most left-wing candidate ever ran by a major party. No exceptions. The American strasserite movement ratfucked her without hesitation or restraint.
Speaking as a Leftist; we can't fix our problems if we refuse to recognize what they are.
Interesting how the Holocaust is considered "too long ago" to be relevant to the discussion but the (always ahistorically described) "nakba" is considered first-hand suffering.
this is slightly off topic but it reminds me of a pakistani creator i saw talk about how she was pro palestine because she saw parallels between what happened to palestinians during the nakba and partition in india/pakistan
she said she was pro palestine because “the damage hindus caused her family and other muslims during partition was too late to undo, but it’s not to late to undo the damage caused by zios to palestinians during the nakba”
apparently partition (1947) is too long ago to fix, but the nakba (1948) isn’t. weird how time works to these people.
A very progressive group at my college just posted an infographic that states “ Zionists believe that Jewish people are indigenous to Israel” and I am losing my shit.
They said this in a post including that it’s okay to kill Zionists and they explicitly support all armed resistance
This is quite something. This is really quite the situation.
wtf this is actually insane. this is... i dont even know what to say or how to describe it. its just... I cant quite believe this is what American colleges are coming to...
As a high schooler applying for colleges next year, this isn't making me too excited to go to college at all.
"Zionists believe in historical fact" is a fascinating new reason to hate Zionists
“This is why these conversations are impossible. You keep retreating into facts.”
They described it as “a safe space for difficult conversations.” What they really wanted was an Israeli who would sit quietly and confess.
it's healthy for academics to have professional feuds. enrichment activity
Holy shit. "The demese ef the Ne'enderthels: Wes lengege a fecter?" published in the Science magazine
short but sweet
The rest of the thread is here.
tl;dr: Don’t monetize AO3, kids. You won’t like what happens next.
read this thread. this is by far the most concise explanation of a lot of different issues that i’ve seen in fandom spaces in a while. cosigning both the linked thread and the thread about aus/uk/can law that’s linked in-thread.
AHDHXHEBSG TWITTER WRITERS DID WHAT NOW???? AND PEOPLE PAID THEM????
If someone has never taken a class that includes copyright law, they may not know this stuff, so I don’t necessarily blame random people for not knowing what copyright is, but like… maybe just maybe it’s something that should be taught????
Just another reminder, because this always drives me crazy, but even if monetizing your fic was 100% unambiguously legal and protected, AO3 would still not let you do it because AO3 was founded and is supported by people like me who want a fandom community that is completely divested from making money off of fic.
Yes, this. Lots of fanworks on AO3 are unambiguously legal. Fics based on Shakespeare plays and fairy tales and Greek mythology and The Great Gatsby and your original character from your D&D game are not violations of copyright, because no copyright applies to those things.
AO3 still doesn’t let you monetize those things on the site, because we don’t want the site to be commercial! Because that’s not what it’s for!
It’s not there for you (generic you) to make money off the efforts of the people who build and maintain the site for free! We aren’t getting paid for the work we do to give you a nice site to use, just like you aren’t getting paid for the work you do to create whatever art you share there. Because fandom is supposed to be a community where we share with each other, and therefore we all benefit.
The deal is, we give you a free, stable, safe platform to host your works. In exchange, you get a site that isn’t covered in ads and tip jars and links to gofundme and “read the next chapter at my patreon”. You get one goddamn place on the internet that isn’t trying to make money off you. And we will defend that space and keep it non-commercial.
If you want to make money off your fics, you can instead post them somewhere like royal Road. “Oh, but Royal Road’s culture is so much more negative and stressful and lacks the supportive norms of AO3!” Yeah, because people are trying to make money there. Half the userbase is treating it as a storefront and hustling is the natural social consequence of that. AO3’s culture can only exist because it’s not commercial.
The “Israel created Hamas” narrative is just Alex Jones “false flag” “9/11 was an inside job” rhetoric repackaged.
It uses the same manipulation of half-truths to remove agency from the perpetrators of mass terroristic violence and massacres, and place the blame on the country being attacked to vilify it, and incite further attacks against said country.
Osama bin Laden having US agency support in the Soviet-Afghan War in the 80s becomes “Osama bin Laden was a CIA agent” becomes “the CIA orchestrated 9/11”. Israel facilitating Qatari aid to Hamas becomes “Hamas was on Mossad payroll” becomes “Israel created Hamas” becomes “Israel orchestrated 10/7”.
It’s the same lie, with similar goals, just applied to a different conflict.
This argument literally doesn't make sense at all and it further explains how so much of what these people say is nonsense lol. Because let's assume that Israel did send money to Hamas and basically "created" them - according to these people, Hamas aren't terrorists, right?
They're the legitimate government of Gaza resisting 'by any means necessary' lol. So why would it be morally indefensible for Israel to send aid to another government? In fact those Qatari payments which did happen lol, Netanyahu legit sent like suitcases full of money fjdisfjisdf.
But I mean so what? Hamas are legit, right? Israel also handled their water, electrical grid, etc etc. Or could it be that your view of the conflict is literally just shouting nonsense until something sticks?
if Netanyahu funded Hamas then that means Israel was providing aid to Hamas this whole time. You can't have it both ways. Was Israel starving Gaza or were they funding Gaza's government including to civil servants and needy families?
If you view Hamas as the legitimate government of Gaza then Israel providing aid to them should be completely morally defensible. You cant pull "Netanyahu funded hamas" as a gotcha when ur entire political opinion is that Hamas = good guys, legitimate, Israel should be Greater Gaza and israel = bad guys who should all go back to poland.
Cos in that framework Hamas is the legitimate government of a sovereign state and sending them aid including to civilians, workers, etc, is perfectly fine. If you view them as terrorists then obviously this is a scandal. So which is it? Are they legitimate or are they terrorists?
same as it ever was.
“[atrocity] didn’t happen. if it did, it’s not as bad as they say. it was deserved, and we should do it again. actually it’s worse than they say, and it was a false flag, which just shows how evil they are, and we should do it for real this time.”
some of it can be explained by the fact these are often different positions from different people (or the same people at different times, as their (mis)understanding of the situation changes), but that doesn’t really explain why they would be able/willing to form a coalition together or have shared goals.
the bigger deeper explanation is that every argument is an ad hoc justification for the position they already have, that Israel is evil and needs to be destroyed. the exact details of the facts don’t matter as long as they point “the right direction”.
A lot of the time when we try to discuss antisemitism against orthodox jews, the conversation is quickly hijacked by jews who find orthodoxy to be weird or something they personally had a bad experience with. As if that means we cannot discuss how it is a normal way to be jewish and people who participate in orthodox judaism are not all miserable and mind controlled and etc.
How can we ever discuss anything if so many of us are intolerant to the idea of jews different than you? I personally don't agree with a lot of the stuff I see reform jews doing. They say things from a reform perspective and I don't agree personally. A rabbi (she/her) once said as a reform rabbi whenever she's asked a question she looks at what Judaism would have as an answer, then looks for a worldly answer and then answers based on that. I couldn't fathom that, to me there's a reason you're going to a rabbi, for a look into Judaism's verdict? Yet I fully repsect that woman and those who are reform like her. Whenever a reform jew speaks I may not agree but I respect them.
I expect other jews to behave themselves when talking about different ways of being jewish because as a jew myself I do this constantly. I know respect is possible, it is not hard.
am I the only one a little confused and weirded out by the way people are acting like Hank Green was “caught” using A.I. like it was some kind of shameful secret or he got caught in a lie?
like, I get people being opposed, upset, or concerned about the revelation, that it doesn’t align with their values, questioning how much he used it in his work, etc.—and absolutely, if it’s impacting his speech patterns, and he and his family feel like the amount he’s been using it is unhealthy, that’s a problem.
but that seems like a different problem from “oh no! they found out my terrible secret! I’ve been living a lie!”
he wasn’t “caught”. he wasn’t being dishonest. he talks openly about his opinions about A.I., which, while often critical (as much as his opinions about social media & the internet as a whole—which he clearly also uses—have been), are fairly evenhanded and nuanced, and from which it’s clear he uses or has used A.I..
I don’t think the backlash/criticism is entirely unreasonable. But it does feel like, even with the good faith criticism out of genuine concern, a heavy dose of it has been multiplied by parasocial feelings from the assumption that Hank Green the Internet Personality Aligns With My Values.
And, to be clear, this is absolutely not a “you did nothing wrong! I’ll support you no matter what!” thing.
I have been critical of Hank Green in the past (specifically concern over being in the Dropout / Brennan Lee Mulligan orbit), and probably will be in the past. On the whole I feel like his work has had a lot of net positive impact, but I know Hank Green’s values and concerns are not necessarily in lockstep with my own.
The nutrition survey, which was coordinated by the UNICEF, showed that children in Gaza have low levels of acute malnutrition.
I don't want to speculate too much about the psychology of those who send these kinds of messages (and this is Tumblr, after all) but I admit I have a morbid curiosity. How old is this person? Do they think they're right-wing or left? Why do they appear to be arguing with themselves, bringing up random talking points as if in dialogue? Like, not to pathologize but this is not well-adjusted behavior. Normal people, even antizionists, should be able to see Israel mentioned without involuntarily launching into a preprogrammed tirade. And I don't even mean this in the sense of "derangement syndrome" or whatever nonsense people on the internet cook up to invalidate each other: I mean, seriously, I do not think the mindset of someone who sends these kinds of anonymous messages is healthy, and honestly feel more concerned than anything else about this. I've gotten messages of this type from reactionaries of every stripe, on every platform, since I was a child. Most of the time I just find them vaguely amusing. This is just kind of sad though. I often say that the Palestine movement has sections that behave very much like a cult, and I mean, how much more culty and detached from reality does it get than imploring others to "grow a human soul" while also hoping for a nuclear holocaust?
you really cannot say
“I hate Isreal so much it’s unreal”
without definitionally meaning
“I hate the sole place on earth made to be safe for Jews”
and
“I hate the country known for housing half the Jews on the planet”
which is easily understood to mean
“I hate Jews”
Especially when you talk about the country and its people using antisemitic language.
I hope this explains why you might be called antisemitic! If you disagree keep it to yourselves. It is not nonjews that get to say what isn’t antisemitism. Or more aptly. judenhass.
People will really try to claim "Just because I hate the Jewish country doesn't mean I hate Jews who live outside of Israel," which is funny because when people say racist shit about Africans and African countries, I 100% assume that their comments on black Africans also reflect their views on black Americans. At best I expect to cringe when I hear their opinions on black Americans, at worst I expect them to be an outright white supremacist. Because it turns out that a lot of the critiques of Africa as a place full of destitute savages with no education getting free handouts from the world, are often bar-for-bar what people use to be racist to black Americans here in the US too 🤷♀️
Xenophobia and racism are pretty much intrinsically linked to each other, like... MAGA-type shit doesn't work so well because people hate all Mexicans for their nationality, for example, it works because to a MAGA believer, "Mexican" is short for "uneducated poor brown manual laborer who can't speak English" or "gang member that sells drugs and rapes women." No leftist/progressive in their right mind would ever try to argue that that sort of rhetoric is "only hating [Latin American country], not being racist." Everyone knows that the xenophobia is heavily racialized and heavily tied to ethnicity and culture via stereotypes related to language, education level, religion, and so on.
So yeah. Jew haters call things "spiritually Israeli" and defend it by going "I'm only insulting Israel," meanwhile one of the most common antisemitic insults/conspiracies is to claim that Jews are cultureless parasites that only steal everyone else's culture. No one with a brain is convinced either that 1. That's not still antisemitism, 2. That Jew haters don't know exactly what they're doing, or 3. That even if they don't know, their ignorance absolves them of responsibility.
this is barely even an exaggeration. right after World War II antisemitic Germans literally took Nazi propaganda and just replaced the word “Jew” with “Zionist” and didn’t change anything else about the image or words. Antizionism has always been about antisemitism.
