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Me: Talking about wanting to put Jews in an internment camp is Nazi behavior.

People in my mentions: Okay, but what if the Jews are actually bad this time?

Me: Cool rationalization, still Nazi.

I know popular media depicts Nazis as like vampires, driven by predatory instinct and goth fashion, but they did think they were the good guys. They thought they were noble warriors of justice fighting evil, doing whatever it took to protect their children. Thinking you're a good guy fighting bad guys does not preclude you from acting like a Nazi.

h4ganah

I love how antizionists are always non-antisemitic enough that they keep showing up with AI-generated goebbels-level degenerate anti-jewish slop at all of their demonstrations.

And no one else there ever pushes back on it, for some reason. I wonder why that is?

xclowniex

unsolicited-opinions

Is it not striking and heartening that Jews worldwide have, for decades, consistently and universally differentiated between the Iranian people and the regime which oppresses them?

I have yet to meet a Jew who fails to make this distinction...even when Iranian Regime missiles were over Tel Aviv.

I find that I'm proud of this behavior in Am Yisrael.

I also have yet to meet an Iranian in person who wasn't normal about Jews and Israel.

gingerswagfreckles

You'd think he'd at least wait like. A week or two. Just to beat some tiny edge of the allegations. Just to keep up some thin veneer of plausible deniability. Like every politician knows their day 1 actions are majorly scrutinized and their choices of what to adress on day 1 are absolutely a political statement in and of themselves.

But nope he didn't even bother pushing it off to day 2, even. He ran on antisemitism, he was elected on antisemitism, there's really no purpose to pretending he's not an antisemite. He's signaling very clearly to his supporters that his absolute #1 priority is allowing them to terrorize Jews freely and without repercussion. As if they weren't already operating with enough impunity.

jewish-vents

i am so tired of watching other jews fawn over the most backhanded, bullshit "allyship." some of you will see a guy be like "look, i know that we all know jews/israelis are evil subhuman monsters and the world would be better off without them but maybe we should reconsider mass murdering them" and you'll be like "omg this is what a true ally looks like." i get that we're conditioned to expect much worse, but ffs, you don't actually have any obligation to drop to your knees and start sucking the dick of every goy who says "maybe we should let the evil jew dogs live. as a treat."

xclowniex

So much of leftist antisemitism falls under the "suspicious jew" trope. Jews can never be afforded the benefit of the doubt, we are always scheming and hiding our true intentions.

Some example are;

If a jew doesn't talk about Israel-Palestine, then it must be because they're secretly an evil genocidal zionist, no other reason would apply

If a jew does talk about Israel-Palestine and does condemn the Israeli government's actions, if they don't use the correct ultra specific words and don't do it frequently enough it's all just virtue signaling to prevent being harassed and they dont actually believe what they're telling you

When meeting new people and you discover one person out of the multiple new people is Jewish, you must now ask their opinion on Palestine. The non jewish new people don't warrant said interrogation because they can be trusted to not be genocidal, the jew on the other hand? You must ask to confirm they're "one of the good ones"

Anyone jew who wears religious symbols or items (eg, magen david, kippah, etc) is a zionist because why would you want to advertise you're a proud jew if you weren't a zionist?

unsolicited-opinions

Seen on Reddit

"Bibi is to blame for antizionist hatred making Jews unsafe in my country": a rebuttal The Yevsektsiya were Jews -- they blamed the "Zionists" and traditional Jews for alienating Soviet society. They believed the Communists could be trusted to treat Jews well if Jews just behaved well enough and were compliant enough with Communism. The Yevsektsiya were disbanded once they were no longer useful and executed or sent to forced labor camps. The Antizionist League of Iraq were Jews too. They thought that Zionists were the problem for wanting a state. They thought if Zionists would just agree to not try to establish an independent state for Jews, all the hatred against Jews would go away (it was there since the Muslim conquest and actually the empires that were there before the Islamic ones were not great either though props to King Cyrus for letting Jews go back to Jerusalem). The Antizionist League of Iraq tried to distinguish between "good Jews" of Iraq and Zionists and it was very popular with Jewish intellectuals and others. And the League was disbanded and the leaders were sent to prison and ultimately the Jews of Iraq were massacred and had to flee for their lives -- and they were not asked if they were Zionists before they were burned or stabbed or shot. 100 years ago, Baghdad was more Jewish than NYC is today. And currently there are less than 10 Jews in the whole country of Iraq. Trying to distinguish yourself from the "bad Jew" (today that's Bibi) does not work in practice. I could tell you a similar story about the Jews of Germany too. They were the most assimilated Jews in the world at the time and Germany was an advanced, enlightened, artistic society. They thought the Eastern European immigrants were the "bad Jews". The Association of German National Jews that were trying to establish themselves as "good Jews" and be friends with the N*zi party were disbanded. And they were burnt along with most of the rest of European Jewry. Today there are fewer Jews in Europe than there are Israeli Arabs in Israel. So much for Europeans lecturing Israelis about tolerance. Once a society starts stigmatizing Jews or a subsection of Jews, the writing is on the wall. Assimilation strategies and kindly explaining ourselves and being the "good Jew" does not work. I will say it again. It simply does not work. We are living in a very very dangerous time for Jews. The US and possibly Argentina are the last places we are not broadly stigmatized -- the US is in fact the place the vast majority of Jews outside Israel live because historically it has been pretty tolerant. But that is going away. There's a 2023 Harvard Harris poll of US kids 18 to 24 - 2 out of 3 believe "Jews as a class are oppressors and should be treated that way". We really have no choice but to call out antizionism and I hope it is not too late. One last point: If antizionism is about Bibi, how come it was killing Jews for decades before Israel even existed? The truth: antizionism is a hate movement with 100 years of Jewish blood on its hands. It is systemic at this point (see my post on how it entered the UN in the 1970s or check out the ADL Top 100 map... 35% of people worldwide believe "Jews start most of the world's wars" - this is straight from Protocols). Kindly explaining and being nice and compliant is simply not a strategy that prevents Jews from being wiped out of society. Jews and anyone who wants our community here not destroyed must talk about the antizionist hate movement and libel and explain to people that it is real and it is very very dangerous and very very wrong.

chutzpahchesed

Organizers say filmmakers didn't legally clear footage, also cite 'threat of disruption'; Sa'ar: This festival would have asked Hitler for a

I don’t know what we’re supposed to do with any of this anymore.

fromchaostocosmos

If you would have told me after Charlottesville that in little under a decade the biggest perpetrators of antisemitism would be the left and that Jews would be under terror and threat from the left I not only would not have believed you, but I would have called you crazy.

Less than a decade later and look where we are.

The people who chanted "Jews will not replace us" at Charlottesville wish they had the kind of power and ability to enact and foment what we are seeing right now.

chutzpahchesed

tbh these merit separate posts, but aside from being exhausting, compiling it all at the same time was intentional - the cumulative effect of them happening concurrently, plus the AP Hezbollah puff piece last week, speaks to widespread ideological subversion. something severe is taking place, but it sounds like a conspiracy to say that, even though it’s happening in front of our eyes (and it makes us feel even more disconnected because we constantly have to contend with conspiracies as the foundation of antisemitism).

Tablet does a lot of good work and also posts many things I disagree with as they lean conservative politically, but as @fromchaostocosmos says above - this aspect of the hatred that is fomenting is overwhelmingly coming from the left, from more mainstream and progressive media outlets, from the spheres in which we previously believed we were safe and included (many of which Jews helped build in the first place).

(there are more details in the post)

none of this is normal, and the wholesale whitewashing of violently antisemitic actions and language (be that through justifying it or erasing it altogether or cloaking it as “criticism of Israel” when it far exceeds that) is doing extensive damage - not merely to the Jewish community, but to the principles and foundations upon which stand the integrity of the media, social justice movements and institutions, and political systems.

gingerswagfreckles

I could go on forever but my point is that a lot of leftists hold this cognitively dissonant belief system that requires them to believe that no one would ever act selfishly or out of irrational hatred for others if only all their needs were met, while simultaneously blaming all the world's problems on a class of people who have all their needs met and yet continue to perpetuate harm. And in order to make these two discordant sets of beliefs work together, it requires believing that "The Rich" are fundamentally, genetically different than Normal Working People, and behave differently and more selfishly than Normal Working People do or would when given that same power. And when one starts believing that The Elites are fundamentally, secretly inhuman and different than Normal Working People, it always, always circles around to blaming The Jews.

Being Better

CW:Sexual Violence

I want to preface this. It is absolutely true that

UN Trucks were being intercepted at an insane rate and they didn't divulge whether it was by armed militants or peaceful civillians

Gaza had higher living standards than Egypt before the war so desperation played no part in this

Hamas and their followers have consistently lied out their asses about famine and casualties for two years

The Media has eaten up those lies

Hamas was voted in

All of these are true, they are verifiably true if you want to check the data, but... That doesn't change the fact that large amounts of people including israelis involved in the GHF say it isn't a feasible good faith organization. It doesn't matter if the alternative is also a bad faith organization that doesn't really help civilians that doesn't mean we are excused to sink to their level and not try to be better. We can't just use 'well they did it first' as an excuse otherwise the mass rape of german women by the soviets after WWII would be justified.

The way we beat our enemies isn't just militarily but by being better than them, if they weren't worse than us they wouldn't be our enemies. I understand how easy it is to fall into iron age revenge fantasies but there is a spiritual cost for repaying barbarism onto barbarism. And no, this is not me asking for the IDF to be gentle lambs who beatificly trot to their slaughter to atone for the sins of gentiles. What I'm asking is for the Israeli government to remember that our enemies are human, and that just because they refuse to act like they are human doesn't change the fact that they're humans who live among humans.

#jumblr #free palestine from hamas #Netanyahu is a yaled zayin

edithsweetith

i've said it before and i'll say it again: calling someone an "israel supporter" or "palestine supporter" or anything of the like has always seemed weird to me. i don't support the entirety of the country of israel nor do i support the entirety of the palestinian territories; i support safety, security, and peace for all innocent people and oppose all unnecessary death caused by both governments and militaries.

framing this as team israel vs team palestine just proves that you guys view this like a sports rivalry instead of a real conflict that affects the lives of real people.

chutzpahchesed

Why Israel’s Chaotic New Food Program in Gaza Has Turned So Deadly - …

this is untenable and indefensible. it can’t continue like this, something has to change.

CIting the deaths of 73 civilians waiting for food on Sunday, IMA President Zion Hagay calls on officials to ensure medical equipment and ai

the following piece is from two months ago, the fact that the situation has worsened since is devastating.

(the headline is a poor reflection of a nuanced and empathetic article.)

Seeing Israel use hunger as a weapon of war is monstrous to me as som…

before anyone says, “but Hamas,” yes, they are also culpable. this doesn’t excuse the culpability of the Israeli government and GHF’s obvious failures following their initial efforts.

Hamas facing financial crisis amid Gaza war as revenue dries up - The…

Hamas profited “especially off the aid that had cost them nothing but whose prices they hike up,” said a Gazan contractor who has worked at Gaza’s border crossings during the war.

Over nearly two years, he said, he saw Hamas routinely collect 20,000 shekels (about $6,000) from local merchants, threatening to confiscate their trucks if they did not pay. He recalled that civil servants for the Hamas-led government said several times that they would kill him or call him a collaborator with Israel if he did not cooperate with their demands to divert aid. He said he refused. But he added that he knew at least two aid truck drivers who he said were killed by Hamas for refusing to pay.

[…] But Hamas has profited off commercial trade and humanitarian aid, netting hundreds of millions of dollars, according to two Israeli military officials and an Israeli intelligence official, who all spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive findings. For instance, the officials said, Hamas seized at least 15 percent of some goods, like flour, and aid vouchers that international agencies had intended to provide to hungry Gazans. These officials said some of that was given to Hamas personnel and supporters while the rest was sold to make money.

Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, a Palestinian American who leads the advocacy group Realign for Palestine, said that Hamas repeatedly modified its strategy for profiting off aid and commerce while counting on the humanitarian crisis to bring the war to an end. “Hamas’s strategy relied on the suffering of Gazans,” said Alkhatib. “But when this strategy failed, it foolishly doubled down on this approach, in large part because it had nothing else in its toolbox to deal with Israel’s ferocious reaction to Oct. 7 and the world’s inability to stop it.”

“Hamas sees aid as its most important currency,” said a man from Deir al-Balah, in central Gaza, who helps manage the distribution of aid. He said that while most of the population had to scrape for water and food, people affiliated with Hamas had been gifted boxes of aid meant for wider distribution.

neither the oppression, violence, and theft from Hamas nor the military overreach, violence, and inability to adequately distribute aid from the IDF and GHF are acceptable as the status quo. I don’t know what the solution is, but it’s not this.

mossadspypigeon

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part ii

unsolicited-opinions

What do QAnon, the Woke, and the Red-pilled all have in common?

They offer the thrill of revelation without the burden of dealing with complexity.

They have different jargon and different priorities, but provide the same relief: Finally the world makes sense...and everything wrong is someone else's fault.

They're all selling the same emotional experience: A moment of awakening. That lightning bolt where everything suddenly makes sense. Whether it’s "the elites are eating babies" or "whiteness is a structural force," the rush is identical. You're not just learning, you're enlightened. The veil has been lifted.

They provide a villain who explains everything. No messy complexity, just a clear bad guy. The outgroup. The sick, immoral Them which is standing in the way of the righteous Us. Globalist elites. The Patriarchy. The Libs.

They provide a tribe that gets it. Once you're in, you're not just agreeing with ideas. You're part of a We, a totalizing in-group. Outsiders (They) are blind, brainwashed, or evil.

Why do so many people fall into this trap? Human brains love shortcuts. Thinking is hard. Wrestling with uncertainty is exhausting.

These ideologies hand you a pre-packaged reality where you don't have to weigh evidence, you just have to follow the script.

It feels good. The high from feeling that you see the truth is addictive. That's why people double down on their narrative even when facts contradict them. Admitting doubt means losing that sweet, sweet certainty fix. The prospect withdrawal is terrifying.

Blame is comforting. If everything wrong in the world is because of them, then you're not just a spectator, you're a warrior. Warriors don’t have to engage in messy, difficult, painful self-reflection. They just fight.

Jargon as a badge

Do your own research

Check your privilege

Take the red pill

The right phrase is the signal or shibboleth that you're in the club.

But no ideology or narrative explains everything.

The world is chaos, power is complicated, nobody is in charge, and most of us are just guessing and fumbling our way forward.

But that's a tough sell. Nobody wants to hear it.

Who wants to swallow the "maybe-I-need-to-keep-thinking-about-it" pill when they can have the "I-can-see-the-Matrix-glitching-and-there-is-no-spoon" fantasy?

We have to learn to hold our beliefs seriously, but lightly enough to keep re-examining them with the receipt of new information.

We have to stay curious.

We have to accept that not knowing is part of being human in a bizarre, complex, baffling world.

Good luck making that trend on TikTok.

theblxefox

I hate the term "supporting palestine/israel".

"Oh so you support Israel"

"he supports palestine, I know it"

Shut the fuck up.

A bloodsoaked conflict that has taken the life of so many people, palestinian and Israeli, is not something you get to pick and choose which side you want to survive.

It's not a fandom. It's not a football match that you can pick the team you support.

This is a real war, a real war that between two very real groups of people, none less deserving of peace and security than the other.

Stop contributing to the notion that Israelis and palestinians are natural born enemies who can't coexist.

The only side you should support is the side of peace.

mossadspypigeon

please don’t stay silent!!!

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