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miles morales hates homophobes and there's nothing you can do about it | i follow from @themoonandu

[classicsclique]

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

fuck it randomly generated homophobic asexual dog

[weirdlandtv]

Illustration by Pierre Brissaud. 1924.

[the-gayest-dovah]

Girls day

[x192]

[sandsvendor100]

how do you feel about forehead kisses?

Get Off Me

[theconcealedweapon]

[pizzaback-deactivated20201011]

i feel like a lot of fiends on here want slurs to reclaim and like it’s not because they find something empowering in owning a stigmatized part of themselves but because they want to say a forbidden, nasty sounding word

[pizzaback-deactivated20201011]

ive said this before but a lot of people use “reclaimation” as an excuse to re-weaponize slurs and its just so. so transparent. you’re not reclaiming anything you are an edgelord

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btw the pepe symbol used to be a white supremacist/fascist icon, but a while back the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme. hong king protestors seem to be using it as a symbol for their protest now!! pls signal boost so people don’t label them as white supremacists.

[necromatador]

Okay while it's a little silly yes that people would label a group of mostly Asian individuals as white supremacists, the point more of op was that using a meme that YES WAS ABSOLUTELY USED BY FASCISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS IRL AND ONLINE, IT MAY BE A VERY AMERICAN THING BUT IT WAS NOT FAKE OR LIMITED, A HATE WEBSITE GOT SUED FOR DEFAMATION AND COPYRIGHT + LOST, AND WHEN RICHARD SPENCER WAS PUNCHED LIVE ON TV HE WAS EXPLAINING HIS PEPE LAPEL PIN doesn't mean that white supremacy is involved (like powering the protests because of Hong Kong's previous colonization by Britain) or that fascism is involved.

Mostly I'm just annoyed about people being dismissive about "no it wasn't a symbol of hatred and fascism" or "oh it was extremely limited/just an online thing" or "oh that's very American who cares".

[ricwulf]

> YES WAS ABSOLUTELY USED BY FASCISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS IRL AND ONLINE

Stop speaking English, wearing clothes, eating, drinking, or breathing.

These are all things that fascists do. Therefore, these things are bad.

If you disagree with this assessment, then you would have to understand that your guilt by association is dumb as fuck, and people were simply using a meme, while idiots made the dumbest association and it’s because of them that the meme got labelled as all sorts of things.

Want to blame someone for Pepe being called white supremacist or whatever? Blame the media that wanted to make “dogwhistles” a thing.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

> AND WHEN RICHARD SPENCER WAS PUNCHED LIVE ON TV HE WAS EXPLAINING HIS PEPE LAPEL PIN

Has it occurred to you that he could’ve been doing it to appeal to the kids, like a Cool Youth Pastor™ with an upturned collar? Or he was exploiting a meme about Pepe being racist to get attention?

Also, didn’t the ADL explicitly say not all uses of Pepe were racist?

“The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted.”

[libertarian-druid-ny-separatist]

[american--support]

[aependell]

I just wanted to point out how op said

>the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme.

That's... Not how that works. You can't make it illegal for a group or individual to use a damn image. At least not in America.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

are u??? stupid??? the creator of the image used his copyright license to sue for infringement by alex jones and infowars who were using it to sell products which is illegal because they did not obtain the legal rights to make money from the image because the creator who owns the rights to it was unaware and not receiving any cut of the profits. he didn't want it to be used by the alt right media as a symbol of their movement and ideology so he sued for the profits on the products they'd sold and was awarded about $15k.

[aependell]

Okay? And?

That still doesn't equate to "making it illegal for those groups to use the meme". What you described is making it illegal for those groups to make monetary profits off the meme. Which is legal. But, as I said in my original point that you didn't seem to comprehend, it is not possible to make it illegal for groups to use a meme. At least not in America.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

but that's not what the lawsuit was about. an individual with a copyright license to an image that they created can dictate that a group or individual other than the original creator is not allowed to profit off of that copyrighted item. op doesn't mean no one can use it, they meant the creator sued infowars, an alt right media organization, because they were selling t shirts and other products with pepe on them next to people like alex jones and donald trump. since infowars did not create pepe, they are not legally allowed to profit off the image under copyright law, which is why the creator won the case and was awarded all the money his copyrighted character that he did not give them license to use had made for them. "using the meme" qualifies as fair use and is the same principle as when u make a youtube video and u try to use a song that someone else created and u can't monetize the video but youtube runs ads on it anyway. instead of the money going to u, like it would if it were monetized, the money goes to the distributor because that content is copyrighted. if u tried to "use the meme" to sell a shirt or a coffee mug, the creator or his management would sue u for copyright infringement because u would be trying to make a profit off of someone else's work.

[aependell]

If op didn't mean "make it illegal for those groups to use the meme," then they shouldn't have used those exact words in their post.

My original point was that you can't do that.

And you have confirmed that. We agree.

Well I mean we don't agree that InfoWars is alt right (lmao) but that's just you spewing propaganda unrelated to the point I was making.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

PROPAGANDA LMAO. u know what she meant y'all just love to pick shit apart. infowars is literally an alt right conspiracy website like idk what to say to that

[aependell]

Me: points out an inaccuracy in op's statement

You: tries to prove the point wrong by presuming OP meant to say something more intelligent than they did

Me: points out your presumption and the fact you are debunking a point that was not made

You: PROPAGANDA!!!

Screaming scary words isn't going to change reality bud, no matter how bad you may want it to.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

can u read?

u called what i said (a fact) propaganda and i laughed at u ?? do u remember that?? or do u genuinely think i'm a fucking moron

[mogai-watch]

IF ONLY THERE WERE ALREADY A TERM FOR THIS

[snowie-skyes]

We already have a flag for that! It's super rare to find but you might recognize it, here's a pic

[somehow-still-a-liberal]

this is like making two mistakes in math so you still somehow get the right answer

[peaceisfortheweak]

I just had to try not to fucking choke on air because I'm in a vc and I didn't want to have to explain what I'm looking at.

[websies-remade]

btw the pepe symbol used to be a white supremacist/fascist icon, but a while back the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme. hong king protestors seem to be using it as a symbol for their protest now!! pls signal boost so people don’t label them as white supremacists.

[necromatador]

Okay while it's a little silly yes that people would label a group of mostly Asian individuals as white supremacists, the point more of op was that using a meme that YES WAS ABSOLUTELY USED BY FASCISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS IRL AND ONLINE, IT MAY BE A VERY AMERICAN THING BUT IT WAS NOT FAKE OR LIMITED, A HATE WEBSITE GOT SUED FOR DEFAMATION AND COPYRIGHT + LOST, AND WHEN RICHARD SPENCER WAS PUNCHED LIVE ON TV HE WAS EXPLAINING HIS PEPE LAPEL PIN doesn't mean that white supremacy is involved (like powering the protests because of Hong Kong's previous colonization by Britain) or that fascism is involved.

Mostly I'm just annoyed about people being dismissive about "no it wasn't a symbol of hatred and fascism" or "oh it was extremely limited/just an online thing" or "oh that's very American who cares".

[ricwulf]

> YES WAS ABSOLUTELY USED BY FASCISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS IRL AND ONLINE

Stop speaking English, wearing clothes, eating, drinking, or breathing.

These are all things that fascists do. Therefore, these things are bad.

If you disagree with this assessment, then you would have to understand that your guilt by association is dumb as fuck, and people were simply using a meme, while idiots made the dumbest association and it’s because of them that the meme got labelled as all sorts of things.

Want to blame someone for Pepe being called white supremacist or whatever? Blame the media that wanted to make “dogwhistles” a thing.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

> AND WHEN RICHARD SPENCER WAS PUNCHED LIVE ON TV HE WAS EXPLAINING HIS PEPE LAPEL PIN

Has it occurred to you that he could’ve been doing it to appeal to the kids, like a Cool Youth Pastor™ with an upturned collar? Or he was exploiting a meme about Pepe being racist to get attention?

Also, didn’t the ADL explicitly say not all uses of Pepe were racist?

“The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted.”

[libertarian-druid-ny-separatist]

[american--support]

[aependell]

I just wanted to point out how op said

>the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme.

That's... Not how that works. You can't make it illegal for a group or individual to use a damn image. At least not in America.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

are u??? stupid??? the creator of the image used his copyright license to sue for infringement by alex jones and infowars who were using it to sell products which is illegal because they did not obtain the legal rights to make money from the image because the creator who owns the rights to it was unaware and not receiving any cut of the profits. he didn't want it to be used by the alt right media as a symbol of their movement and ideology so he sued for the profits on the products they'd sold and was awarded about $15k.

[aependell]

Okay? And?

That still doesn't equate to "making it illegal for those groups to use the meme". What you described is making it illegal for those groups to make monetary profits off the meme. Which is legal. But, as I said in my original point that you didn't seem to comprehend, it is not possible to make it illegal for groups to use a meme. At least not in America.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

but that's not what the lawsuit was about. an individual with a copyright license to an image that they created can dictate that a group or individual other than the original creator is not allowed to profit off of that copyrighted item. op doesn't mean no one can use it, they meant the creator sued infowars, an alt right media organization, because they were selling t shirts and other products with pepe on them next to people like alex jones and donald trump. since infowars did not create pepe, they are not legally allowed to profit off the image under copyright law, which is why the creator won the case and was awarded all the money his copyrighted character that he did not give them license to use had made for them. "using the meme" qualifies as fair use and is the same principle as when u make a youtube video and u try to use a song that someone else created and u can't monetize the video but youtube runs ads on it anyway. instead of the money going to u, like it would if it were monetized, the money goes to the distributor because that content is copyrighted. if u tried to "use the meme" to sell a shirt or a coffee mug, the creator or his management would sue u for copyright infringement because u would be trying to make a profit off of someone else's work.

[aependell]

If op didn't mean "make it illegal for those groups to use the meme," then they shouldn't have used those exact words in their post.

My original point was that you can't do that.

And you have confirmed that. We agree.

Well I mean we don't agree that InfoWars is alt right (lmao) but that's just you spewing propaganda unrelated to the point I was making.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

PROPAGANDA LMAO. u know what she meant y'all just love to pick shit apart. infowars is literally an alt right conspiracy website like idk what to say to that

[websies-remade]

btw the pepe symbol used to be a white supremacist/fascist icon, but a while back the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme. hong king protestors seem to be using it as a symbol for their protest now!! pls signal boost so people don’t label them as white supremacists.

[rogue-actual]

OP also says dumb shit like this so you know exactly how seriously they should be taken.

[websies-remade]

JSJSJSJS

[rogue-actual]

The only actual fact here is that people are using images of pepe in protests. Only idiots who believe everything they read on the internet think pepe is a hate symbol, people on 4chan made it up to troll dumbasses like you and it worked.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

if u actually cared about what happened u would know that the ADL published pepe the frog in their list of hate symbols because it was being used on right wing forums and the creator sued infowars because even though it obviously isn't a hate symbol, he didn't want what he created to be used on websites and infowars was using his cartoon to sell products featuring pepe next to alex jones and donald trump during the 2016 campaign. i think it's u who believed whatever u heard but please stay pressed

[aependell]

Imagine thinking the ADL is a reliable source for anything

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

[websies-remade]

btw the pepe symbol used to be a white supremacist/fascist icon, but a while back the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme. hong king protestors seem to be using it as a symbol for their protest now!! pls signal boost so people don’t label them as white supremacists.

[necromatador]

Okay while it's a little silly yes that people would label a group of mostly Asian individuals as white supremacists, the point more of op was that using a meme that YES WAS ABSOLUTELY USED BY FASCISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS IRL AND ONLINE, IT MAY BE A VERY AMERICAN THING BUT IT WAS NOT FAKE OR LIMITED, A HATE WEBSITE GOT SUED FOR DEFAMATION AND COPYRIGHT + LOST, AND WHEN RICHARD SPENCER WAS PUNCHED LIVE ON TV HE WAS EXPLAINING HIS PEPE LAPEL PIN doesn't mean that white supremacy is involved (like powering the protests because of Hong Kong's previous colonization by Britain) or that fascism is involved.

Mostly I'm just annoyed about people being dismissive about "no it wasn't a symbol of hatred and fascism" or "oh it was extremely limited/just an online thing" or "oh that's very American who cares".

[ricwulf]

> YES WAS ABSOLUTELY USED BY FASCISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS IRL AND ONLINE

Stop speaking English, wearing clothes, eating, drinking, or breathing.

These are all things that fascists do. Therefore, these things are bad.

If you disagree with this assessment, then you would have to understand that your guilt by association is dumb as fuck, and people were simply using a meme, while idiots made the dumbest association and it’s because of them that the meme got labelled as all sorts of things.

Want to blame someone for Pepe being called white supremacist or whatever? Blame the media that wanted to make “dogwhistles” a thing.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

> AND WHEN RICHARD SPENCER WAS PUNCHED LIVE ON TV HE WAS EXPLAINING HIS PEPE LAPEL PIN

Has it occurred to you that he could’ve been doing it to appeal to the kids, like a Cool Youth Pastor™ with an upturned collar? Or he was exploiting a meme about Pepe being racist to get attention?

Also, didn’t the ADL explicitly say not all uses of Pepe were racist?

“The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted.”

[libertarian-druid-ny-separatist]

[american--support]

[aependell]

I just wanted to point out how op said

>the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme.

That's... Not how that works. You can't make it illegal for a group or individual to use a damn image. At least not in America.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

are u??? stupid??? the creator of the image used his copyright license to sue for infringement by alex jones and infowars who were using it to sell products which is illegal because they did not obtain the legal rights to make money from the image because the creator who owns the rights to it was unaware and not receiving any cut of the profits. he didn't want it to be used by the alt right media as a symbol of their movement and ideology so he sued for the profits on the products they'd sold and was awarded about $15k.

[aependell]

Okay? And?

That still doesn't equate to "making it illegal for those groups to use the meme". What you described is making it illegal for those groups to make monetary profits off the meme. Which is legal. But, as I said in my original point that you didn't seem to comprehend, it is not possible to make it illegal for groups to use a meme. At least not in America.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

but that's not what the lawsuit was about. an individual with a copyright license to an image that they created can dictate that a group or individual other than the original creator is not allowed to profit off of that copyrighted item. op doesn't mean no one can use it, they meant the creator sued infowars, an alt right media organization, because they were selling t shirts and other products with pepe on them next to people like alex jones and donald trump. since infowars did not create pepe, they are not legally allowed to profit off the image under copyright law, which is why the creator won the case and was awarded all the money his copyrighted character that he did not give them license to use had made for them. "using the meme" qualifies as fair use and is the same principle as when u make a youtube video and u try to use a song that someone else created and u can't monetize the video but youtube runs ads on it anyway. instead of the money going to u, like it would if it were monetized, the money goes to the distributor because that content is copyrighted. if u tried to "use the meme" to sell a shirt or a coffee mug, the creator or his management would sue u for copyright infringement because u would be trying to make a profit off of someone else's work.

[websies-remade]

btw the pepe symbol used to be a white supremacist/fascist icon, but a while back the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme. hong king protestors seem to be using it as a symbol for their protest now!! pls signal boost so people don’t label them as white supremacists.

[necromatador]

Okay while it's a little silly yes that people would label a group of mostly Asian individuals as white supremacists, the point more of op was that using a meme that YES WAS ABSOLUTELY USED BY FASCISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS IRL AND ONLINE, IT MAY BE A VERY AMERICAN THING BUT IT WAS NOT FAKE OR LIMITED, A HATE WEBSITE GOT SUED FOR DEFAMATION AND COPYRIGHT + LOST, AND WHEN RICHARD SPENCER WAS PUNCHED LIVE ON TV HE WAS EXPLAINING HIS PEPE LAPEL PIN doesn't mean that white supremacy is involved (like powering the protests because of Hong Kong's previous colonization by Britain) or that fascism is involved.

Mostly I'm just annoyed about people being dismissive about "no it wasn't a symbol of hatred and fascism" or "oh it was extremely limited/just an online thing" or "oh that's very American who cares".

[ricwulf]

> YES WAS ABSOLUTELY USED BY FASCISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS IRL AND ONLINE

Stop speaking English, wearing clothes, eating, drinking, or breathing.

These are all things that fascists do. Therefore, these things are bad.

If you disagree with this assessment, then you would have to understand that your guilt by association is dumb as fuck, and people were simply using a meme, while idiots made the dumbest association and it’s because of them that the meme got labelled as all sorts of things.

Want to blame someone for Pepe being called white supremacist or whatever? Blame the media that wanted to make “dogwhistles” a thing.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

> AND WHEN RICHARD SPENCER WAS PUNCHED LIVE ON TV HE WAS EXPLAINING HIS PEPE LAPEL PIN

Has it occurred to you that he could’ve been doing it to appeal to the kids, like a Cool Youth Pastor™ with an upturned collar? Or he was exploiting a meme about Pepe being racist to get attention?

Also, didn’t the ADL explicitly say not all uses of Pepe were racist?

“The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted.”

[libertarian-druid-ny-separatist]

[american--support]

[aependell]

I just wanted to point out how op said

>the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme.

That's... Not how that works. You can't make it illegal for a group or individual to use a damn image. At least not in America.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

are u??? stupid??? the creator of the image used his copyright license to sue for infringement by alex jones and infowars who were using it to sell products which is illegal because they did not obtain the legal rights to make money from the image because the creator who owns the rights to it was unaware and not receiving any cut of the profits. he didn't want it to be used by the alt right media as a symbol of their movement and ideology so he sued for the profits on the products they'd sold and was awarded about $15k.

[staff]

we warned you about that anime shit

[websies-remade]

btw the pepe symbol used to be a white supremacist/fascist icon, but a while back the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme. hong king protestors seem to be using it as a symbol for their protest now!! pls signal boost so people don’t label them as white supremacists.

[rogue-actual]

OP also says dumb shit like this so you know exactly how seriously they should be taken.

[websies-remade]

JSJSJSJS

[rogue-actual]

The only actual fact here is that people are using images of pepe in protests. Only idiots who believe everything they read on the internet think pepe is a hate symbol, people on 4chan made it up to troll dumbasses like you and it worked.

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

if u actually cared about what happened u would know that the ADL published pepe the frog in their list of hate symbols because it was being used on right wing forums and the creator sued infowars because even though it obviously isn't a hate symbol, he didn't want what he created to be used on websites and infowars was using his cartoon to sell products featuring pepe next to alex jones and donald trump during the 2016 campaign. i think it's u who believed whatever u heard but please stay pressed

[websies-remade]

btw the pepe symbol used to be a white supremacist/fascist icon, but a while back the creator sued and worked to make it illegal for those groups to use the meme. hong king protestors seem to be using it as a symbol for their protest now!! pls signal boost so people don’t label them as white supremacists.

[obliviousfloral]

Did people legitimately think that Pepe was a white supremacist thing?

And are people so dumb to think that the people in Honk Kong are white supremacists

[websies-remade]

1) yes, because it literally was

2) no, but i just wanted to spread the info about how it no longer should be seen as an alt-right icon. i didn’t mean to say people would assume they’re white supremacists.

[tsurumitokushiro]

if you call people transtrenders i'll steal your fucking teeth

[tsurumitokushiro]

unfriendly reminder that transmeds and truscum are not welcome on this blog. even if you're """respectful truscum""" or whatever please unfollow me now.

[tacochippy]

Um, sorry, I don't wanna be rude, but what's a 'truscum'? Why are they bad?

[tarantula-veins-deactivated2023]

Truscum believe that dysphoria is paramount to being trans and that they hold the final word over who is and is not trans. They're generally quite confrontational and will mock people for their gender identity and are often anti nonbinary, but not always.

[tacochippy]

Can they all just, like, drop dead? Please?

[tacochippy]

The truscum, not the trans people

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

truscum.... are trans people.........

[tacochippy]

Oh, they are??

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

truscum are just trans people who believe u need dysphoria to be trans. some of them are gross and harrass people but most are perfectly normal. some dont believe in nb identities but not all. but like theres bad people in every community so judging them based solely on the nasties is unfair.

[exclusionistgodzilla]

No offense miles but if the majority of truscum I've interacted with are either silently judging me or outright calling me a cis faker I'm gonna have a bit of anger

[milesmoraleshateshomophobes]

ive honestly distanced myself from dysphoria discourse a lot and i dont start arguments about it ever because it's so toxic and i'm cis so like really what new information am i going to contribute. a lot of people ive observed recently especially on twitter think that truscum means "mean trans person" and tucute means "nice trans person" and think that truscum/transmeds are on a level with terfs and nazis and should die. thats my idealistic view of the discourse but i suppose i havent participated enough to really have been targeted. on other platforms ive seen a lot of people talk about how bad kalvin garrah and his stans are and how they target people specifically and he calls them r*tarded so i definitely understand why u feel that way.