(Original post: https://short-wooloo.tumblr.com/post/666200054499016704/do-you-even-hear-yourself-the-jedi-were-part-of)
Wow, God tier idiocy here
Like, way to miss the point of the original post and end up sounding just like a fucking nazi like I said in the op
It is very clear that this is another galidraan type situation (@monjustmon ’s post on the subject https://monjustmon.tumblr.com/post/656610965931114496/so-this-is-what-i-mean-mandos-woke-up-chose), you haven’t actually read the source material about the subject, you’ve just “heard” about the events, so let’s just go over what actually happened:
Kalee and Huk were two worlds located in Wild Space, a region beyond the fringes of Outer Rim (which itself is a region where the Republic has little authority and slavery is legal), home to the Kaleesh and Yam’rii respectively, neither were a part of the Galactic Republic, the Kaleesh apparently having only recently become space-faring or simply rarely left their native space, but the Yam’rii did have contact and economic ties with the Republic and Trade Federation
How things began was the Yam’rii, or “Huk” (soulless bugs) as the Kaleesh came to cal them, established an outpost/colony on Kalee, they found the natural resources of the planet weren’t what they were hoping for, but the native Kaleesh were of far greater value, and began to take them as slaves, thus beginning the Huk war
Now the exact length of the war or when it began is unclear, but what is known is that eventually a Kaleesh warrior named Qymaen jai Sheelal rose to prominence with his partner Ronderu lij Kummar, the two being leaders of the Kaleesh war efforts and even being considered demigods
Unfortunately, Kummar died in battle with the Yam’rii, and Sheelal was heartbroken, and after so soul searching and wallowing in sadness, Sheelal gave into his grief entirely becoming Grievous
From there the newly christened Grievous lead the Kaleesh in a victorious war of liberation, reconquering Kalee and driving the Yam’rii off world
But for Grievous the freedom of his world and people wasn’t enough, he was out for blood
So Grievous lead the Kaleesh in a genocidal revenge campaign against the Yam’rii, attacking their colony worlds and massacring their civilians (and I think that’s an important distinction to make, the Yam’rii who attack Kalee would have been slavers and soldiers, killing them would have just been an act of battle)
Now what the Yam'rii originally did to the Kaleesh was horrible
But that doesn’t justify the Kaleesh trying to do the same to them
Genocide does not make counter-genocide ok
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind
And genocide for genocide just leaves more people dead, the dead are still dead, nothing is fixed, no one’s better off,
And with the real threat of total annihilation on their heads, the Yam’rii made use of their economic ties to the Republic to get help, while also portraying the Kaleesh as the aggressors and themselves as victims
It is here that the Jedi got involved, with a force of 50 (that number is important) sent to end the war, which they did
That, that right there, that is what the person in the above photos considers to be the Jedi aiding in the genocide and subjugation of the Kaleesh
Stopping them from committing a revenge genocide
Now you could argue that the Jedi were in the wrong for not stopping the Yam’rii from originally invading Kalee and enslaving the Kaleesh
But that doesn’t really hold up
The Jedi only have authority in Republic space, anywhere else they need permission to be,and Kalee/Huk are in Wild Space, a region beyond the Outer Rim, a region where the Republic/Jedi have little to no authority
Furthermore, the Kaleesh’s own limited space travel, coupled with the Yam’rii’s economic ties to the Republic (and the Senate’s corruption) meant the Jedi probably never even heard of the invasion until after the Kaleesh repelled it
Anyways, with the war over the senate imposed economic sanctions on Kalee and forced them to pay reparations
I fail to see whats wrong here
Yes, what the Yam’rii originally did was horrible, but by this point, they were driven off of Kalee, and the Kaleesh were now attacking the Yam’rii worlds and killing their civilians, with the very real possibility of being totally wiped out, that can’t just go unpunished
The senate absolutely was overly punitive no disagreement there, but you gotta remember that this is happening in the years leading up to the Clone Wars, when the senate is at its most corrupt and is being run by sith who are attempting to engineer a galactic scale war, trying to turn people against the Republic/Jedi and make Jedi killers
And before anyone blames the Jedi for this, I will remind you that the Jedi serve the Republic, they do not make its decisions or policies, they do not run it,they have no say in what it does
Now to summarize what happens with Grievous afterwards, this is what kicks off his hatred of the Jedi, and in a deal to free Kalee of its debts Grievous became the the IGBC’s debt collector, but eventually ditched the job when conflicts with the Yam’rii kick off again (specifically over the Yam’rii desecrating Kaleesh burial sites on Yam’rii colony worlds, y'know the world’s Grievous invaded and slaughtered the populations of), now the IGBC wasn’t happy with him leaving so they conspired with Dooku to get him permanently in their service, planting a bomb on Grievous’ shuttle and blaming the Jedi, with his body ruined and more vengeful than ever,Grievous agreed to his reconstruction (during which his brain was modified without his knowledge) and thus Grievous the cyborg General with a grudge against the Jedi was born
With that out of the way, I’d like to examine what the person said about Grievous being justified in killing “every Jedi he saw”
only 50 Jedi were really involved in the situation
“every Jedi he saw” includes younglings in the wrong place at the wrong time, padawans drafted into the war effort by the senate/Palpatine, and every other Jedi who had nothing to do with what went down on Kalee
you are literally saying that because 50 people stopped him from committing genocide, Grievous is justified in killing people who aren’t those 50, including children, because they’re a part of the same cultural group as that 50
Plus, All of the above is eu, legends eu, neither informs the movies and shows, and do yknow what the movies and shows say about Grievous, his origin, and his hatred of the Jedi?
Not much, but it implies that his cyborg status is in some part voluntary, augmentations to keep with and kill Jedi because he hates them because he’s jealous of them, he wants their power but cannot have it, so he kills them
More importantly, Grievous is a butcher, mass murderer, and war criminal, all of which he loves and is proud of being, there is no excuse or justification for his actions, he wants and loves to kill
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kalee/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kaleesh/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Yam%27rii/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Huk_War
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wild_Space/Legends
