name: mnbvah, lookie, l444
species: human (he/him)
age: 21
current interests: Undertale/Deltarune, ralsei, Dragon Ball, JJK, ralsusie, ralsei
other info: i'm currently suffering in the depths of hell known as 'university', i've also been a dragon ball roleplayer for 7 years until july 2025, dabbled in writting and art (non serious), if you want to find my slop it should be down there somewhere
will defend against megumi slander, ralsei erasure, ralsusie slander and 'deltarune player is evil' allegations with my dying breath
i've also opened my ask box so you can go ahead and torment me there
NOTICE FOR PSYCHOTIC PEOPLES LIKE ME AND THE NEW TOMODACHI LIFE: Please please pretty pretty please be careful while playing Living the Dream, esp if you’re currently unmedicated!!!
The game treats the Miis like they’re real people and makes zero mention ever that they are not, and only ever refers to them and their POV as if they are real and you are their caretaker! While playing this honestly messed with my head pretty badly at times and made me worry a lot on if I was hurting real people/not doing enough for real people while I was playing!
I cannot imagine how much worse this would be for someone who’s unmedicated, non-dormant, or experiencing breakthrough symptoms! Do please be careful and PLEASE remember to have a way to reality check yourself while playing the game!!!
Also: If you’re not psychotic, please reblog this anyway!!! It may not seem like a big deal to you but these kinds of things are REALLY important to know for us psychotic folk in a world that is both hostile and negligent to us and our needs!!!
With Deltarune's next release on the horizon, I figured now was as perfect a time as ever to "lock in" some of my chapter 5 predictions!
Bear in mind, this post isn't meant to be all-encompassing, so it will exclude any thoughts on certain topics which I lack strong feelings about. I've also excluded most thoughts about the game's deeper lore (the Angel, Gaster, etc.) since I'm confident that very little of it will be relevant until the final two chapters.
To organize things a bit, I've roughly ranked each prediction on a descending scale from most confident to least confident:
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Extremely Confident:
1. The chapter will take place inside Flower King.
2. Noelle will tag along for the chapter's entirety and learn the truth about dark worlds.
3. We will learn why Asgore is no longer police chief.
4. Asgore will be completely oblivious to the Roaring Conspiracy.
5. Ralsei will get mixed in with Asgore's wedding flowers, leaving Noelle to fill his spot in the party.
6. Ralsei and Asgore will spend most of the chapter together; we'll have several opportunities to see what they're up to.
7. Ralsei will learn to consider his own needs.
8. Asgore will accept that Toriel is never taking him back.
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Very Confident:
9. There will be a Knight rematch with Noelle in our party.
10. The Knight's identity will be revealed (it's Dess, surprise surprise)
11. DEVICE_FRIEND will be the secret boss.
12. Asriel will not make an appearance.
13. The Golden Flower will puppet Asgore for our fight against him.
14. The flowers will feed into Asgore's delusions of fixing his family.
15. Each of the seven flowers will share a loose personality and appearance with a corresponding Holiday or Dreemurr (minus Asgore).
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Fairly Confident:
16. Asgore will make his fountain using the Black Shard and instructions left for him by the Knight or Kris.
17. The chapter will end with Rudy on the brink of death and Noelle triggering the Roaring in an attempt to save his life.
18. We'll meet Papyrus at the Festival... and he'll be wearing a fedora.
19. The secret boss will be fought using exclusively Ralsei or Noelle (leaning toward Ralsei).
20. Asgore will remain oblivious to the Roaring Conspiracy throughout the entire chapter.
21. Noelle will figure out the Knight's identity.
22. Collecting the fifth egg will finally allow us to see the Forgotten Man in the light world; he is Deltarune's variant of Gaster.
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Somewhat Confident:
23. Kris's relationship with Dess will be reframed as quite unhealthy, resembling their dynamic with Susie prior to chapter 1.
24. (Weird Route) Noelle will finally "fulfill her purpose" by one-tapping the Knight while aware of their identity. Aside from dialogue changes, this will be chapter 5's most significant Weird Route content.
25. The Knight's physical/light world form will be the Vessel, which Dess is inhabiting due to the "shattered" state of her own body.
Kris has to trust that Ralsei will keep the apple where it is, that he won't yank it away from them when they try to bite from it, or replace it with something else. Ralsei has to trust that Kris will accept his kindness, that they won't bite his hand, or try to hurt themself in some way (apple seeds contain trace amounts of cyanide).
Kris keeps their eyes closed so that the player will not interfere, but that also leaves them totally vulnerable, almost-incapable of defending themself against a threat they can't see coming. For someone as inherently closed-off and mistrustful as Kris, someone who is confirmed to be working with the Roaring Knight in some capacity, choosing to believe that Ralsei will keep his word and help them when they need it speaks a great deal to the amount of trust they have placed in him.
And for Ralsei, too... if, as I suspect, he knows that Kris is working with the Knight, and knows that their situation seems hopeless... to choose to believe that they will cooperate with and rely on him despite that, when even their own SOUL seems to be at-odds with them, is a testament to his trust that Kris will do the right thing in the end, and perhaps more importantly, they will choose to do so of their own volition.
By trusting in each other, both are nourished and fulfilled. And honestly, the idea that trust may well end up saving the world is kind of beautiful.
I like to think that when lightners get older and can't visit the dark world as much anymore, Ral borrows tiny things to keep their presences with him at all times.
With us being 4 Chapters in, halfway through the game, and still not knowing what object Ralsei embodies, I think part of it could be due to his Light World form being something unusual, but I think another, possibly bigger, reason for this narrative choice not to reveal what he embodies has to do with the theme of Darkners being people, despite what he tries to tell us.
Ralsei claims that Darkners are just objects, that they don't matter, that they love serving their purpose, and in Chapter 1 he even said that being useful to Lightners is the only way for them to be fulfilled, but Susie has consistently questioned this or shut it down; this is one way that we as the audience are nudged towards questioning it. Darkners are also written with the same complexity as Lightners, and most of them are content in Castle Town, where they're just living their lives in the Dark World and forming social bonds with each other, largely away from Lightners, and not being "useful".
Even Tenna, another lonely Darkner with low self worth, who reduces himself to just being a TV and claims he was happy just serving his purpose, indicates that he has dreams beyond it. As the Chapter 5 cutscene shows, his unhappiness in Castle Town doesn't come from being useless, but rather from being lonely in the Dark World; he lost his partner (the only person that truly understood him), and then seemingly lost a friend as a result, being left all alone. He dreamed of having a family with Spamton, he dreamed of traveling... he has desires beyond his purpose, and when his survival doesn't depend on being useful, those desires actually appear to matter more to him.
We're clearly meant to question the idea that Darkners are just objects, that they have no desires outside of their purpose, or that serving their purpose will give them a truly happy and fulfilling life. Especially when you consider the existence of a Darkner like Spamton, for whom being useful to Lightners is outright impossible; he's spam mail, doomed to be ignored and useless.
Ralsei himself wishes he could join Kris and Susie on their adventures in the Light World, wishes he could do their homework, and is starting to develop interests and opinions that aren't in service of Lightners; the previous lack of those wasn't due to him naturally being just an object with no real feelings, but due to him repressing himself because he believed he's not "supposed" to have any real personality or desires. He also claims that being useful is what makes Darkners happy, but we see that the things that actually make him happy are spending time with his friends and being treated like a friend rather than a servant; being comforted when he's upset, being told it's okay not to smile... he's not being "useful" there, and his Lightner friends are actually caring for him, but it makes him feel better.
He's clearly not just an object. He's a person. And I think the choice to not reveal what object he embodies is, at least in part, meant to emphasize this, along with his visual design.
If the player doesn't know what object Ralsei embodies, that makes it harder for them to reduce him to just being said object. There are theories about what his Light World form is, but we still don't have anything concrete. The player only gets to knowingly interact with him in the Dark World, where he is a person. His Dark World form strongly resembles the Dreemurrs, which is brought up even within the narrative itself, where he's especially noted to resemble Asriel (their names are even anagrams of each other). He could easily be another child in the family, and he wouldn't look out of place; the pink horns are a small enough difference that they could be assumed to be some kind of fantasy condition or just a color variation.
In the Dark World, he looks like a lost Dreemurr kid, and he acts like a kid. This, along with our lack of knowledge of his Light World form, makes it harder to believe him when he says he's nothing more than an object, and makes it more apparent that he's an unreliable narrator.
YES. EXACTLY. I find it so interesting that any Ralsei Object theory is incapable of providing a full picture of his character, and that the more we know about him, the less certain any one particular object becomes. Not to mention that the game has directly disproven the idea that he's something Kris carries around with them. Whatever Ralsei is, it's entirely secondary to who he is as a person, but the game has left the object, the thing that we can use to overwrite his identity with something else, as an open question about his character, leaving us to weigh the question of what Ralsei is as opposed to who Ralsei is. We want to find an answer to what he is so we can better understand him, fit him into the rules of Darkners that we've been given, but we risk losing that understanding if we hold ourselves to the "what question" too closely and sacrifice the ability to think of him as a person.
