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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again
If it was this (excuse the shitty editing)
Instead of this
There would be NO arguments as to who Daryl Dixon was in love with
And I will die on this hill
Lol throwback to this post I made where I was feeling especially petty about this.
My husband, a non-Caryler: they couldn’t have had them kiss and he leave. Imagine not knowing Melissa is coming back? They would set Daryl up to be in love, then never return him to his lover? They had to leave it open ended in the slight chance she doesn’t return, but she probably will.
Former The Walking Dead writer LaToya Morgan on Twitter
i think the wonderful thing about daryl and carol, regardless of whether or not you ship them or whatever, is that they continuously decided that they could look at each other despite everything and be like “you. you are still worth the good things of this world.”
Lovers’ Quarrel
Daryl and Carol have their first fight as a couple.
Carol pushes the slain walker off of Daryl, helping him back to his feet. She examines him frantically.
Carol: Are you alright?
Daryl catches his breath.
Daryl: Yeah. I’m good.
Carol: Good.
Like the switch of a light, her mood changes to white hot anger. She shoves him hard and he fumbles, completely taken aback.
Carol: What the hell were you thinking!?
Daryl: You serious? Was thinkin’ that thing almost got you!
Carol: I told you, I had it!
Daryl: Didn’t look that way to me.
Carol: Well, you can’t do that!
Daryl: Can’t have your back? Pfft. Right.
Carol: I mean you can’t put yourself in danger for me!
Daryl: When you need me, damn right I will. Ain’t arguin’ about this.
He tries to stalk off. Carol blocks him.
Carol: I need you to stay alive, Daryl! If I lost you now…
The thought brings her to tears.
Daryl: Hey.
He looks at her severely.
Daryl: We can’t do this. Can’t walk on eggshells just ‘cause things are different between us now. Look where we are. Gonna have to face real bad shit sometimes, and it’s gonna be scary. I dunno what I’d do if I lost you either. But I ain’t thinkin about that. ‘Cause I have you now, and I’m gonna do everythin’ I can to keep you.
He extends his arms, lip quirking up in a smile.
Daryl: Unless you don’t want me anymore.
Carol glares at him, unable to resist. She steps into his embrace, and he wraps his arms around her tight, kissing the top of her head.
Daryl: Love you.
Carol: Love you too.
They pull apart. Daryl winces, rubbing his shoulder.
Daryl: Not so hard next time.
Carol scoffs.
Carol: How do you know it wasn't the walker?
He wraps his arm around her.
Daryl: Trust me. I know.
BRILLIANT
all debates abt the artistic merits of fanfiction fail to recognize the purpose of fic. you don’t write fic to be published or to learn how to construct a narrative although you can use it to develop style. you write it so that your friends will message you “bestie you’re utterly deranged for this one im eating dirt”
#you know those ppl who are like ‘fanfic can be good to get started but it’s bad because then you never learn how to write your own from#scratch’ ? lmao#like imagine walking up to someone planting flowers and being like ‘that’s a START but ultimately it won’t teach you how to genetically#engineer your ideal fruit tree’#like. you have extrapolated a goal that was never implied here
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Some Thoughts on The Caryl Spinoff & TWDU
At its height, TWD had mass appeal. You can’t get 17 million TV viewers through solely attracting horror or comic book fans. General audiences, including the squeamish and those who would never normally watch anything zombie related, became invested in the show because of TWD’s emotional core. Audiences fell in love with the characters and the relationships that the characters have with each other.
I feel like the Caryl spinoff would have been way more likely than any of the other spinoffs to attract new viewers because it had the potential to be ground-breaking, like TWD was rightly seen as ground-breaking when it first aired over a decade ago. The lighter tone, tenderness, aesthetics, sweeping majestic landscapes etc. would have all been major selling points. It would have been the post-apocalypse like you’ve never seen it before.
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In my McReedus feels tonight ❤️❤️❤️
And because @meandeternity challenged me 😉
#Norman #Melissa #Daryl #Carol #Caryl #McReedus #friendshipgoals #love
They're so beautiful together😭❤️
*Carol roasting Daryl in any way shape or form*
Daryl: stawp
It’s the end of our first blitz. We tried to get Caryl Spinoff trending and in an ironic turn of events, these two things happened.
I could not be more fucking proud of the Caryl community right now. Excuse me while I go cry.
also, pay close attention how the media is wording things. kang "stepped down because of other projects." melissa was the one who couldn't make it work. these are the official statements the network is putting out, shifting the blame on these women, which is "we fucked these people over but aren't going to admit it" journalism 101
and if the people reading these articles take the stuff at face value, where are they going to target their anger? and who gets to sit back and watch them fire shots at the innocent bystanders?
man, fuck these assholes so hard
New theory: Carol's downstairs is too powerful and Daryl gets amnesia, regresses back to season one. And leaves to find Merle.
I have seen JDM’s comments and you know what they tell me? That our movement is needed now more than ever. Friends. Do you know what a gut punch it is to have celebrity Caryl supporters come out and (rightfully) shame Carylers who are saying the most vile things they can think of? Is this how we want to be known? The We Ain’t Ashes Collective has been and still is about showing SUPPORT and LOVE for Caryl, Carol, and Melissa Mcbride. So gear up. Sunday, May 1st at 9PM EST, we are going to flood Twitter with POSITIVE thoughts about our beloved ship and characters. We need JDM, and YNB, every actor, EP, and the network to know that there are still MANY good Caryl fans out there who only want what is best for their story. This movement is full steam ahead and we need your help. And I am writing my letter today. Who’s with me?
If you haven’t yet, please email [email protected] to learn how you can be involved.
the more i think about it, the more hilariously bad a daryl only spin-off show would be. what would even happen?
here's daryl camping in the forest
here's daryl camping in the desert
oop, daryl caught a squirrel!
and now he's camping in a different forest
like y'all, the boy has come a long way, but he still has the social skills of a socially awkward twelve year old boy who was raised by wolves. do you really think he's going to be doing community outreach on his own?? no! without a socially competent companion, the fucker is going to be in a fucking tent as far away from society as possible, so unless it's secretly gonna be a how-to survivalist show i don't think it's gonna work out
((they have even less to work with than with the maggie + negan spin-off, and that shit is so bottom dregs that it barely even counts as scraps, like good fucking luck amc))
Hi everyone,
It truly breaks my heart to see so much pain, anger, and hurt over the news, and while I found myself yesterday questioning whether or not I should still keep my spot in this community, today I woke up fully ready to channel everything I’m feeling into a positive and hopefully groundbreaking campaign for Caryl, Carol, and Melissa. Some of you have expressed interest in sending birthday cards for Melissa to AMC (thanks again for the suggestion, secret friend), and @meandeternity @laur-n-peace and I are currently working to make this happen. We also have a lot of other ideas to make sure the network understands our disdain for their choices, and strongly encourage Caryl, Carol, and Daryl fans past and present to join the movement. If you are feeling cheated and upset and want to go about it in a way that has a real chance of making a difference, please email [email protected] for more information. All email addresses will remain private or if it feels safer, feel free to create a new email address specifically for the cause. I’ve tagged the people who said they were interested already, but please help us get the word out to every current or former fan and stan you can think of. Our voices will be heard.
Thank you,
MT
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Also: we are all heartsick over the characters and especially for Carol, but THIS IS A WOMAN’S JOB. No matter how long AMC was sitting on this news, it seems pretty clear that moving to Europe wasn’t the original plan. A person presumably was making plans for her future based on this, had signed that multi-year contract whenever, and then she—and potentially her career, see under: ageism, misogyny—got completely fucked over.
Projects can fall apart for a variety of reasons, but this doesn’t seem like a situation that happened out of people’s control. I would love to be able to trust that Melissa retained agency here, and if it was her choice to begin with, we could respect that for the actor while mourning the loss of the character. But until Melissa chooses to clarify otherwise, I presume this was done *to* her.
And if so, what an ultimate betrayal for the woman who spent more than a decade lovingly building a character whose entire arc was about rejecting victimhood and claiming her power.
Burn it all down indeed. And I hope Melissa wrings every last penny out of AMC that she can in the meantime.
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I have no words to express how devastated I am about the news Melissa/Carol was forced to exit The Carol and Daryl spinoff due to an unexpected relocation to Europe. I said she was forced to quit because that is the definition of “we” decided to move the spinoff to Europe, Melissa cannot logistically make that move, therefore, we will proceed with a solo spinoff no one asked for without her, and that is the very definition of being forced OUT. So don’t come at me with semantics.
This is what always happens in this industry. Actresses are expendable. It does not matter, Carol, portrayed by a critically acclaimed actress, is matter of fact, their best female character with the most incredible development - from a meek abused housewife to a certified badass leader. They obviously don’t care about the people she continues to inspire after more than a decade on this show. What is important is the bottom line. Her story is not important. Definitely, not as important as the male counterpart’s story, so they completely changed the premise of a spinoff they announced almost 2 years ago.
This was a last minute decision, the last season of the show was already written, and 2 episodes away from closing production for good. And not only were we absolutely robbed of Carol’s presence on screen with the promise that her story would continue, but we will also be robbed of a good ending for this incredibly special character because of last minute rewrites and whatnot. I hope everybody involved in this process is really proud of themselves. You did THAT. You managed to ruin the legacy of character as important as Carol.
And Daryl, too. Because if anyone thinks that Daryl ridding off alone at the end of the main series (for whatever reason) is what he deserves, or the way he has been written all along, was clearly not paying attention. So congrats, you guys really ruined 2 of my fav characters ever. Not to mention, one of the most iconic ships in TV history. #Caryl has been here for a whole decade!
I will forever love Daryl and Carol, individually, and will forever ship #Caryl. I won’t regret any of it. But this is the end of an era, so excuse me, if I am heartbroken of how things turned out.
MELISSA MCBRIDE DESERVED BETTER.
CAROL PELETIER DESERVED BETTER.
I will forever support Melissa in whatever she decides to do outside TWD franchise, whether she just decides to retire from acting, or she chooses to continue in the business and try something new. I am sure there’s at least a couple of very good writers out there who would be ecstatic for an opportunity to work with her, and I know they would treat her better than AMC/etc.. Not to mention her talents wouldn’t be wasted on subpar storylines and writing TWD is very well known for.
I love the people I met along this journey. I made friends that I hope I’ll get to keep even after all of this. So guys, do not be a stranger!! Come to my messages/DM’s/discord!! And I sure hope all fanfic writers can fix this for all of us. I will be here waiting to read your work cause I’ll be Caryl starved AF.
