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[yuri-on-ice-action]

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[nikiforoov]

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[alexseanchai]

his face

[nikiforoov]

are you going to become friends with me or not

[nikiforoov]

are we holding a funeral for yoi or are we here by accident

[mappawhereisyoi]

So… MAPPA says that Yuri on Ice was successful but the amount of money they got from the project was insignificant.

The math is not mathing. You and your partners quickly committed to an internationally released movie because of the potential for profit. The DVD/Blu-Ray sales were through the roof (meanwhile, you talk about Chainsaw Man underperforming in that area).

You won’t comment on Yuri on Ice for years, and now you are trying to diminish its importance to your studio? When it put you on the map? Okay.

アニメ制作、イベント、映画配給……『呪術廻戦』『チェンソーマン』のMAPPAがチャレンジしつづける理由とは | Kompass（コンパス） ミュージックガイドマガジン by Spotify&CINRA

「Kompass」は、CINRA.NETとSpotifyが共同で立ち上げた音楽ガイドマガジンです。オススメの音楽やプレイリスト、アーティストインタビューやコラムなどの記事を発信しています。

[rikeijo]

What you guys seem to not understand is that MAPPA really doesn't own the rights to Yuri!!! on ICE.

Otsuka even says it in this very interview... The way the industry is constructed makes it so that all the money goes to the actual IP holders, the production committee, and the studio gets only a very small share, because they are legally not entitled to get more.

That's why they made Chainsaw man the way they did... without the production committee - to have control over it and over the money.

Yuri!!! has a production committee and the trademark is in Avex Pictures' hands. Every YoI merch has Avex' logo on it. Naturally, this is were the money goes.

Here's publicly available info on Jp patents and trademarks. Search for "ユーリ！！！on ICE".

[mappawhereisyoi]

We all understand that. We know it is not solely the studio (in this case, Mappa) that profits from anime. Forgive me for not putting the disclaimer in the original post.

Yuri on Ice was an extremely successful anime - top 10 of all time in Blu-ray/DVD sales. Mappa used to sing its praises. It paved the way for their current state.

They would not have committed so quickly to a movie (much less an intentional release) if the franchise did not have immense profit potential for them. After years of no updates, we get this comment that seems to write the entire thing off. Of course we are upset.

[rikeijo]

But if you read the whole interview it's quite clear that he doesn't try to write the success off. He only says that even though it was a big hit, they couldn't get a fair share of profit, because this is how the industry works and it's very much legal...:

"Otsuka: For example, "Yuri!!! on ICE" which our studio produced can be described as a big success, but the amount of money that we got was very little when compared with the scale of that success. I think that it's also the studio responsibility, because we have agree for it to be like that, and I started to think about how to make it so that we are able to do more things on our own. You can't control it, if the work you are producing is going to be a big success or not, so I thought that if we won't be able to use the few chances [successful titles] that we have, we won't grow as a company."

What do you expect MAPPA to do in YoI's case? Illegally use the trademark that isn't theirs and take the money? Or not talk about how unfair the situation is, that they barely have the money to pay the animators, and the higher-ups get even richer thanks to their hard work?

I really understand being upset with the situation with IceAdo (I'm too), but I just can't understand what do you want them to do with it? Because if you look at it objectively, they can't control this IP, as it isn't theirs - and this is exactly what Otsuka is talking about in this interview.

[mappawhereisyoi]

No one is saying anything about wanting them to take anyone’s money or not talk about industry practices.

We understand that the focus of this interview is not Yuri on Ice (and that it is only briefly mentioned) but this is the first time that the series has been mentioned in recent memory despite the fact that there is a movie 4 years overdue now. The comments made about it seem to indicate that the project was not one that was profitable to them. If that is the case, why commit to continuing it so quickly and on such a large and ambitious scale? Why not be like WIT and pass to another studio if it was not working out in their favor?

It is odd to me that after years of silence and the recent interest/questions (in part because of Fantasy on Ice and History Maker), the first comment made about the series could be a potential out for them.

(Sorry, I reblogged before you added the last paragraph. In general, in regards to Ice Adolescence, we want them to either officially cancel the project and put us all out of our misery or actually give us an update.)

[rikeijo]

I'm sorry for dragging this on, but I just have the feeling that everyone is google translating the tweet with half a quote from that interview, and uses it as another excuse to hate Mappa, or what's even more bizarre to me, Otsuka himself.

It's a well-know fact that production committee system is disadvantageous to the studios and this is what the interview is about. He simply says that Mappa was affected by it, too, and all the money from YoI went somewhere else. If you guys just want to hate people, who just want to earn a living (and Otsuka as a CEO is responsible for his employees, so of course he cares about the money), there's nothing I can do to stop you, but I doubt it will make IceAdo happen.

And FaOI... They invited Dean, I's say, because he is a singer that has a connection to figure skating, so he was a good choice. But he was there as himself, not as "the guy that sings Yuri!!! on ICE opening". In his profile on FaOI website, they didn't even mention Yuri!!!. So, I really don't think that it's the evil MAPPA deceiving YoI fandom again... People involved with YoI just continue to live their lives and do their work.

[mappawhereisyoi]

You are putting words in my mouth. I’m not out to hate anyone, especially those who “just want to earn a living”, and by making that comment it is clear that you are not listening to what I am actually saying. If I have not been clear in the reasons that we have questions about the situation and are disappointed with the comment in the interview, then I am sorry.

As for FaOI, I was only saying that the History Maker performance at Fantasy on Ice recently brought a TON of attention back to Yuri on Ice - nothing more.

[rikeijo]

I'm not saying that you personally hate Mappa or Otsuka, but I'd say that you are kind of whipping up the fandom into believing that people who have legally no control over the IP are the bad guys here, for example, by spreading the info that Otsuka is writing YoI success off (which he isn't), without even reading the whole interview.

Why don't you target Avex?

[mappawhereisyoi]

“So… MAPPA says that Yuri on Ice was successful but the amount of money they got from the project was insignificant.” That is the first sentence of this entire post. Is that not what he said? And then I linked the actual article?

People can draw their own conclusions, but I and many others interpret it the way I have been discussing. You are assuming that we did not read the whole interview - we did, but our focus is on that one particular comment.

We know that Avex is a factor, but Avex is not the one with it’s name currently signed on the “Regarding the Production Status” notice on the movie website.

We are obviously not going to agree on this. If you think that we are reading too much into the comment, that’s fine, but it has been six years and people are allowed to be upset and look for answers.

[rikeijo]

What he really said is: "For example, "Yuri!!! on ICE" which our studio produced can be described as a big success, but the amount of money that we got was very little when compared with the scale of that success." So the context is very much different - he isn't dismissing towards YoI's success at all, but says that the way the industry is constructed isn't fair to the studios and that the money wasn't split fairly.

Avex doesn't have to have its name on the notice, because it has its name here:

I know that we won't agree on this, because you have already decided who you want to blame, and that's your right, obviously.

But still, the fact is that MAPPA can't do anything with YoI without permission of the people above them.

[arom-antix]

The brainrot has momentarily concluded

[arom-antix]

The brainrot continues

[teekettle]

This news article reads like Victor after he danced with Yuuri at the social. 😅

[venrin]

Rewatched yoi recently and it remains one of my favourites. Here are some of my favourite fanarts I did back in 2017 :))

[detectivegargoyle-deactivated20]

Tumblr in a couple of days

[detectivegargoyle-deactivated20]

Hey everyone who thought this, guess what

[dearvitya]

things i know to be true: yuuri is great at wrapping presents. victor’s looks like a toddler wrapped them.

[rainysorarts]

Almost too late, but I wanted to draw something quick for vicmas! My boy...

[jonwatson]

fuck christmas and happy birthday viktor nikiforov <3 wishing him a slow bald spot progression

[princess-from-another-galaxy]

[metiredlr]

Yuri on ice fandom of Tumblr let's do w/ Ice Adolescence what the rest of the site did with Goncharov(1973) because it's been 5 years n we got no news of the movie yet. I'm begging. We can do this

[lordizxy]

[artofcatamus]