Niri

A scrollable-tiling Wayland compositor. - they/them

[sapphic-machine]

This is like lingerie for electronics

[aonkeeper4]

me whenm i am. Prougraming on my Computer

[heyitsmelinguini]

that’s mozilla herself

[foxpost-generator]

it fucken wimdows

[buildroot-official]

finalized eek cover posted to yt

made a couple changes, fixed the vibrato on the triangle a bit and tweaked some volumes

[callmezeta]

i fucking hate rust

[callmezeta]

ive been staring at this for 12 billion fucking years.

[unix--porn]

[niri] My NNN Workflow

Font:

sans serif: Inter Variable sans: Noto Sans monospace: JetBrains NFM emoji: noto fonts emoji

Cursors:

name: Capitaine Cursors Themed (Gruvbox) size: 28

Icons:

Gruvbox Plus Dark

Dotfiles are not finalized yet, and will be available soon in my dotfiles repo only for nixos

—muhmmadtalha-quant

[buildroot-official]

update to eek vrc6 edition, fixed some stuff, added dmc samples for the melody, used dpcm-tools to generate them

i adjusted the samples to fit just barely under the 16KB limit for a bankless cart and are still somewhat out of tune for the lower notes. but, whatever. it works.

i think its p much done, but im open to suggestions before i upload it to youtube

[rocky-linux-official]

"Not dot gz!"

[systemdeez]

Oh fuuuuuuuuck what if I become a web developer. The pay is great but it would be bad for, like, my soul.

[gnome-de-official]

Quick info about HTML:

pros:

reasonable way to make and share documents

basically universally supported

cons:

endangers your immortal soul

[wayfire-official]

I make all my presentations in html using a JavaScript framework called reveal.js and it's so good. Runs pretty much on any device with a web browser.

Somehow need to present on a 3ds? No Problem, I've got it all covered.

[commieclimbercatgirl]

You know what else runs on every device with a browser? PDFs!

[wayfire-official]

Okay but do your PDFs have built in wiimote support?

Because my presentations do...

[niri-unofficial]

I make my presentations in the terminal like any normal person.

No silly browsers involved.

[hydra-keeper]

I do the annoying hipster thing and use typst and polylux (oder einen polylux)

[niri-unofficial]

I've been meaning to learn typst for a while, maybe this will convince me.

[systemdeez]

Oh fuuuuuuuuck what if I become a web developer. The pay is great but it would be bad for, like, my soul.

[gnome-de-official]

Quick info about HTML:

pros:

reasonable way to make and share documents

basically universally supported

cons:

endangers your immortal soul

[wayfire-official]

I make all my presentations in html using a JavaScript framework called reveal.js and it's so good. Runs pretty much on any device with a web browser.

Somehow need to present on a 3ds? No Problem, I've got it all covered.

[commieclimbercatgirl]

You know what else runs on every device with a browser? PDFs!

[wayfire-official]

Okay but do your PDFs have built in wiimote support?

Because my presentations do...

[niri-unofficial]

I make my presentations in the terminal like any normal person.

No silly browsers involved.

[wayfire-official]

Actually have you found any solutions for displaying images? Like, using kitty or something?

[niri-unofficial]

I typically use presenterm but i've been looking for another tool because of LLM contributions.

Presenterm supports images through the kitty image protocol or sixels so most terminals should work with it.

[systemdeez]

Oh fuuuuuuuuck what if I become a web developer. The pay is great but it would be bad for, like, my soul.

[gnome-de-official]

Quick info about HTML:

pros:

reasonable way to make and share documents

basically universally supported

cons:

endangers your immortal soul

[wayfire-official]

I make all my presentations in html using a JavaScript framework called reveal.js and it's so good. Runs pretty much on any device with a web browser.

Somehow need to present on a 3ds? No Problem, I've got it all covered.

[commieclimbercatgirl]

You know what else runs on every device with a browser? PDFs!

[wayfire-official]

Okay but do your PDFs have built in wiimote support?

Because my presentations do...

[niri-unofficial]

I make my presentations in the terminal like any normal person.

No silly browsers involved.

[liminalbeauty]

AI companies are bulk buying rare books, scanning and then shredding them so nobody else has access.

Confirmed.

Enclosure of the cultural commons.

And Elon’s like, « I’m keeping one copy in MY library. »

[python3-official]

In a June 2025 ruling in Bartz v. Anthropic, U.S. District Judge William Alsup of the Northern District of California held that digitizing legally purchased print books and using the resulting digital copies to train large language models was fair use.

So you can create a new copy of a licensed work, and use it in the creation of your commercial product that you sell without the author's permission, but it's fair use...

Same US state where a politician said Minecraft servers are piracy btw.

[linuxbian]

Tumblr users have no excuse to not use Linux.... I know your ass isn't going outside, you're on this website. You have all the time in the world to learn what a bootloader is 🤨

[sodabytes]

i wanted to see if it was possible to use kde connect to use my steam deck as a part of my art process, so to test it, i made this animation of konqi helping two computers send files to each other!

[letterbox-sparrow]

Just switched to niri :3

[naharie]

@niri-unofficial Hype stuff happening over here.

[niri-unofficial]

yayy :3

[cinnamon-official]

why do people hate systemd other than "ive heard hating it is the cool and rebellious and smart thing to do" like whats actually wrong with it

[wayfire-official]

It's a monolithic system, the creator just straight up stated that he thinks the Unix philosophy is bad, he's a generally disliked on the internet.

But most importantly, you're kinda forced to use it. There are only few distros without systemd, and there's a surprising amount of packages that depend on it specifically.

People, especially ones interested in free software, really don't like it when they're forced to use something.

Personally i think it's a reasonably fine piece of software, but I still think the lack of init system freedom sucks, and is generally unhealthy for the Linux ecosystem

[niri-unofficial]

As someone who has moved away from nixOS to gentoo mostly because of systemd i'll give my two cents.

1. Systemd has massive scope creep. I've made a post about this a while ago but what systemd can do is insane. It's not like they do what they do better than other people too, it's just more used because if you're using systemd you might as well use all of systemd which is how you tie your systemd to a lot of intertwined components and this is how you eventually get projects like elogind. 2. im very opinionated about software and design decisions, imo, just suck. just to make one example: varlink i hate varlink so much who in their right minds thought that JSON would be a good fit for IPC what the fuck why do you need the Inter Process Communication to be human readable and writable why. 3. Poettering volountarily choose to put strain on package mantainers of distros that include systemd alternative as he believes distros should stop supporting "deviating solutions" for the sake of unifications under systemd. source 4. Before even any law passed, systemd was already in favour of supporting the age verification nightmare that was started by California inside of *checks notes* the init system?! This is insane AND a danger to the privacy and freedom of linux users.

There are a ton of reasons to not like systemd, these are just the main ones that made switch away from it but other people can probably give more reasons.

[wayfire-official]

Uhh, small side tangent about varlink.

I doubt the motivation was human readability. It probably stems from old RPC (remote procedure call) implementations, where stuff was often sent via http, so it had to make use of ASCII characters.

Older implementations often even used XML formats.

And, I don't think it's really that much overhead to marshall and unmarshal it. Using binary representations comes with complicated bullshit depending on what languages you use. So, might as well use a simple format that already has libraries in pretty much every single language anyways.

[niri-unofficial]

Fair but if you're designing a new IPC system to internally replace dbus why do would you do that TwT

also, most people from languages like javascript or python are probably using a library already to interact with varlink so they could've hidden the handling of binary data anyways.

[wayfire-official]

Well, it's simple and unambiguous.

And, people still have to implement the varlink libraries you know. They are still written by people who would like to have an easy time, especially if the alternative of using weird binary stuff doesn't offer any significant advantages.

Also, it's kinda nice that you get to read that stuff? Maybe helpful for debugging?

[niri-unofficial]

the point about the library is fair but like i said in the original post im personally really opinionated, so much that im literally writing my own IPC as we speak so im mostly judging the design from a purely technical (and very opinionated) pov, im sure that it wasn't designed by absolute morons (probably)

about the debugging. you're gonna need to write a tool to debug that anyways which, after you have the library, shouldn't be much more than a wrapper.

[wayfire-official]

Okay cutie :>

Sounds fun

[niri-unofficial]

awawawa

[ryoislazy]

Just to add something to the "But systemd has age verification, why does an init system have age verification?" point, the init system does not have age verification. The thing that does have a singular (1) date of birth field is systemd-homed, which is an advanced user management suite that fucking rocks (but nobody uses, unless you make a concerted effort). Systemd is also modular, because it's broken into many independent modules. I don't need systemd-homed for systemd-init, I don't need systemd-init for systemd-boot. Most people's issues with systemd seem to be out of misunderstandings about how and why it works the way it does.

[niri-unofficial]

the modules dont seem that independent to me. example: how come elogind exists then? systemd-logind makes calls to systemd (init) and wont work without it unless you change the code. is there any guarantee of independence? which modules are actually independent? i know systemd-boot is because i used it for a long time but not all of them are independent.

[cinnamon-official]

why do people hate systemd other than "ive heard hating it is the cool and rebellious and smart thing to do" like whats actually wrong with it

[wayfire-official]

It's a monolithic system, the creator just straight up stated that he thinks the Unix philosophy is bad, he's a generally disliked on the internet.

But most importantly, you're kinda forced to use it. There are only few distros without systemd, and there's a surprising amount of packages that depend on it specifically.

People, especially ones interested in free software, really don't like it when they're forced to use something.

Personally i think it's a reasonably fine piece of software, but I still think the lack of init system freedom sucks, and is generally unhealthy for the Linux ecosystem

[niri-unofficial]

As someone who has moved away from nixOS to gentoo mostly because of systemd i'll give my two cents.

1. Systemd has massive scope creep. I've made a post about this a while ago but what systemd can do is insane. It's not like they do what they do better than other people too, it's just more used because if you're using systemd you might as well use all of systemd which is how you tie your systemd to a lot of intertwined components and this is how you eventually get projects like elogind. 2. im very opinionated about software and design decisions, imo, just suck. just to make one example: varlink i hate varlink so much who in their right minds thought that JSON would be a good fit for IPC what the fuck why do you need the Inter Process Communication to be human readable and writable why. 3. Poettering volountarily choose to put strain on package mantainers of distros that include systemd alternative as he believes distros should stop supporting "deviating solutions" for the sake of unifications under systemd. source 4. Before even any law passed, systemd was already in favour of supporting the age verification nightmare that was started by California inside of *checks notes* the init system?! This is insane AND a danger to the privacy and freedom of linux users.

There are a ton of reasons to not like systemd, these are just the main ones that made switch away from it but other people can probably give more reasons.

[wayfire-official]

Uhh, small side tangent about varlink.

I doubt the motivation was human readability. It probably stems from old RPC (remote procedure call) implementations, where stuff was often sent via http, so it had to make use of ASCII characters.

Older implementations often even used XML formats.

And, I don't think it's really that much overhead to marshall and unmarshal it. Using binary representations comes with complicated bullshit depending on what languages you use. So, might as well use a simple format that already has libraries in pretty much every single language anyways.

[niri-unofficial]

Fair but if you're designing a new IPC system to internally replace dbus why do would you do that TwT

also, most people from languages like javascript or python are probably using a library already to interact with varlink so they could've hidden the handling of binary data anyways.

[wayfire-official]

Well, it's simple and unambiguous.

And, people still have to implement the varlink libraries you know. They are still written by people who would like to have an easy time, especially if the alternative of using weird binary stuff doesn't offer any significant advantages.

Also, it's kinda nice that you get to read that stuff? Maybe helpful for debugging?

[niri-unofficial]

the point about the library is fair but like i said in the original post im personally really opinionated, so much that im literally writing my own IPC as we speak so im mostly judging the design from a purely technical (and very opinionated) pov, im sure that it wasn't designed by absolute morons (probably)

about the debugging. you're gonna need to write a tool to debug that anyways which, after you have the library, shouldn't be much more than a wrapper.

[wayfire-official]

Okay cutie :>

Sounds fun

[niri-unofficial]

awawawa

[devuan-official]

i'll show you my systemd 😈

[wayfire-official]

Ah. I see. Because of the d

Would love to see more in the future

[cinnamon-official]

why do people hate systemd other than "ive heard hating it is the cool and rebellious and smart thing to do" like whats actually wrong with it

[wayfire-official]

It's a monolithic system, the creator just straight up stated that he thinks the Unix philosophy is bad, he's a generally disliked on the internet.

But most importantly, you're kinda forced to use it. There are only few distros without systemd, and there's a surprising amount of packages that depend on it specifically.

People, especially ones interested in free software, really don't like it when they're forced to use something.

Personally i think it's a reasonably fine piece of software, but I still think the lack of init system freedom sucks, and is generally unhealthy for the Linux ecosystem

[niri-unofficial]

As someone who has moved away from nixOS to gentoo mostly because of systemd i'll give my two cents.

1. Systemd has massive scope creep. I've made a post about this a while ago but what systemd can do is insane. It's not like they do what they do better than other people too, it's just more used because if you're using systemd you might as well use all of systemd which is how you tie your systemd to a lot of intertwined components and this is how you eventually get projects like elogind. 2. im very opinionated about software and design decisions, imo, just suck. just to make one example: varlink i hate varlink so much who in their right minds thought that JSON would be a good fit for IPC what the fuck why do you need the Inter Process Communication to be human readable and writable why. 3. Poettering volountarily choose to put strain on package mantainers of distros that include systemd alternative as he believes distros should stop supporting "deviating solutions" for the sake of unifications under systemd. source 4. Before even any law passed, systemd was already in favour of supporting the age verification nightmare that was started by California inside of *checks notes* the init system?! This is insane AND a danger to the privacy and freedom of linux users.

There are a ton of reasons to not like systemd, these are just the main ones that made switch away from it but other people can probably give more reasons.

[wayfire-official]

Uhh, small side tangent about varlink.

I doubt the motivation was human readability. It probably stems from old RPC (remote procedure call) implementations, where stuff was often sent via http, so it had to make use of ASCII characters.

Older implementations often even used XML formats.

And, I don't think it's really that much overhead to marshall and unmarshal it. Using binary representations comes with complicated bullshit depending on what languages you use. So, might as well use a simple format that already has libraries in pretty much every single language anyways.

[niri-unofficial]

Fair but if you're designing a new IPC system to internally replace dbus why do would you do that TwT

also, most people from languages like javascript or python are probably using a library already to interact with varlink so they could've hidden the handling of binary data anyways.

[wayfire-official]

Well, it's simple and unambiguous.

And, people still have to implement the varlink libraries you know. They are still written by people who would like to have an easy time, especially if the alternative of using weird binary stuff doesn't offer any significant advantages.

Also, it's kinda nice that you get to read that stuff? Maybe helpful for debugging?

[niri-unofficial]

the point about the library is fair but like i said in the original post im personally really opinionated, so much that im literally writing my own IPC as we speak so im mostly judging the design from a purely technical (and very opinionated) pov, im sure that it wasn't designed by absolute morons (probably)

about the debugging. you're gonna need to write a tool to debug that anyways which, after you have the library, shouldn't be much more than a wrapper.

[wayfire-official]

Okay cutie :>

Sounds fun

[niri-unofficial]

awawawa