Visit with Elder Renlund - April 2026
At my last visit with the Renlund's, I gave them a copy of The Book of Queer Mormon Joy and bookmarked my story and one written by my friend Erran Speaker (@loveerran) and he asked me to bring her with me the next time I visit. That visit took place today.
He began by commenting how much he loves my pink tie. Really likes it. In fact, referenced it a few times during the meeting, even commenting on how my pink phone matches my tie. It was cute.💗
I shared about Elder Anderson's visit to my church building and that I was in charge of lunch. The wives were oohing and ahhhing over the tablescape and the food and took pictures and offered to airdrop photos to me and asked for what my phone is called. "Bootyyyshaker9000." Elder Renlund laughed at that.😆
Then I shared how Elder Anderson came to the kitchen afterwards to thank everyone who was cleaning and commented that he's never seen it be all men washing up. I immediately commented that cooking and cleaning are not among the duties listed in the Handbook for the sisters' callings. Elder Renlund responded, "Good for you."👏👏👏 Then he asked how Elder Anderson reacted. "He looked over at me for a 1/2 second, then carried on with what he was saying."🙄
Elder Renlund asked how I was doing healthwise. I let him know that since we last met I had completed therapy for eating disorders. He was very kind as he noted that this is a difficult thing to overcome.
I spoke about how this has been something I've done daily for decades, it started as a teen. He asked how frequently I engage in disordered eating now having completed therapy? I've had a few incidents but they've been months apart. He especially found it interesting that the types of food I used depended on what feelings triggered the disordered eating, such as comfort foods when anxious or crunchy foods I could chop down on when feeling angry.
I shared with him that I was aware someone had made very negative comments about me serving as a stake executive secretary which caused me some hurt feelings. Elder Renlund expressed his sorrow that such a thing happened and what it implied about me as a gay man serving in church. That if I'm doing a good job and the stake president wants to keep me on, that's the only opinion that matters.
I stated that I recently completed 10 years in this calling, and it was after these negative comments were made about me that led to the first time in all these years that the stake president and I had a conversation about whether it's time for me to be released. Elder Renlund responded I'm doing a great job and he thinks I should serve for 23 years! 😅 My stake president and I should be open to the Lord's timeline and revelation of when it's time for a change, but "there's no reason to stop serving."
I brought up his recent General Conference talk with the story of his dog having trouble choosing whether to chase the blue ball🔵 or the yellow ball🟡, and using that to teach we should choose to focus on the Savior's atonement which gives Him power to help us along our earthly journey. He showed us a drawing by an Idaho cartoonist named Bagley of his dog and the yellow and blue balls. Very cute!
He let us know his 10-year-old had asked to get a pet dog and Elder Renlund thought he'd get a big dog and name it Spike so when he walks it down the sidewalk he'd look very manly. His wife Ruth suggested getting a small dog with a feminine name. So they compromised and for 17 years had a small dog named Lady whom he loved very much. 🐶
At some point we mentioned we know people who came home early from their proselyting missions who have transitioned to service missions. Elder Renlund wanted to make clear there should be NO stigma about serving service missions instead of a proselyting mission. Sometimes parents think of it as a lesser option, the fallback position, and they don't want that for their child.
He shared with us a quote made by Gordon B. Hinckley in his first General Conference after becoming president of the church. "Your obligation is as serious in your sphere of responsibility as is my obligation in my sphere. No calling in this church is small or of little consequence." Ruth Renlund had joked, "Oh sure, being the Primary pianist is as important as being president of the Church." But a week later as she sat at the piano in the Primary room she thought, "Well, Gordon isn't here, guess it's up to me." 🎹
Elder Renlund wants service missionaries to know that their calling isn't secondary, it isn't lesser, it is an opportunity to serve and contribute to the Kingdom of God which makes it equal to all other callings to serve.
He followed this up by saying on some Sundays he doesn't have an assignment and will choose to attend a local ward, and after Sacrament Meeting he goes to Primary. His favorite is the singing of songs. He asks the Primary children what their favorite songs are and it used to be that the answer almost always was "I am a Child of God," but nowadays he most often hears, "This Little Light of Mine," along with one or two others of the new hymns. While he no longer is overseeing the new hymnal, which gets released in 2027, he delights that the new hymns are being embraced even by the children. 🎶
Oh, that morning I shared with Erran a joke Elder Renlund told me, that he thinks the war in heaven started over the creation of a new hymnal because there's so many strong opinions. He delivered that joke again today and Erran laughed (while politely not saying that I already told her that joke😬)
One thing I appreciate about meeting with Elder Renlund is he asks me to be my authentic self, to be honest about my thoughts and feelings, and that he will be his honest, authentic self in return. That a conversation where we can be honest with each other is important.
We had such a conversation today, some hard things, some hurtful things, some personal things being shared, things too personal for a public blog post. And his response was empathetic, and to share his opinions on the matters, and even to thank us for things we shared and an invitation to come again.
Given the small number of apostles and how many members there are in the LDS Church, I know only a limited number get to have the experience of one-on-one conversations like we had today. I am fortunate that an apostle takes interest in me, a gay Latter-day Saint, and in my friend who is a trans member of this church, and the hardships we encounter and in our thoughts on our experiences with church. I wish more people could experience the care, concern, and love expressed. 💖