Assembling Evidence of Milex ✌️ Found a new obsession and made a blog about it. A place to neatly organize all the little scraps of information I've collected and to eventually post my own thoughts of things I've not seen anyone else talk about. Will probably only be around until the hyperfixation ends, unless... 👀 we get TLSP3? (and btw, my name *is* actually Kat)
So back to The World's First Ever Monster Truck Front Flip....
So in that interview with Kyle Meredith he admitted the songs on TBHC are first person and him using science fiction as a wall of expressing himself...
So he is the bad girl trying to be good...
Is this the first time Alex has publicly used female pronouns to address himself?
You know that feeling you get in your stomach when it turns over, when you realise something or you’re nervous etc
“I’m just a bad girl trying to be good”
He’s remembering when he realised his sexuality, but has to play it down due to his career. He could have said “boy” but that sounds too idk heterosexual so to give a better clue he’s used “girl”??
“I’ve got a laser guiding my love that I just can’t adjust”
He can’t help feeling this way, or who he loves.
But, this seems too obvious and we know, Alex’s lyrics are never obvious. 🤷♀️
The tale of Alex Turner's girlfriend's jumper, Josh Homme, and the making of Humbug
(Extracts from Mojo Magazine, September 2009)
The jumper sealed the deal: the cable-knit jumper, belonging to his girlfriend. Alex Turner just happened upon it early one evening in the different late summer of 2008, as he waited for the telephone to ring. It wasn't so much the fact of it being a girl's jumper. He could get away with wearing a size skinny, after all. And besides, it would be dark at the gig he planned to go to later on. No, it was the cable-knit which gave him pause. Was he, Alex wondered, really a cable-knit guy?
His reverie was interrupted by the call he'd been expecting. Alex had spoken to Josh Homme before: the Queens Of The Stone Age leader declared himself a fan by marching into the Arctic Monkeys dressing room at a Belgian festival the previous year; later in 2007 the Monkeys supported the Queens in Houston. Compliments were exchanged, though Alex did wonder about the precise mutuality of this appreciation. Maybe 70-30? Obviously, the Monkeys were big fans of QOTSA: the Queens' sensual dirt-rock had been a key benchmark for their album Favourite Worst Nightmare. And Josh Homme? He had at least heard of Alex's band, and that was good enough. But now here he was, on the phone, accepting the invitation to produce the next Arctic Monkeys album. Alex deferred taking the conversation down to brass tracks. Airily, he mentioned his knitwear dilemma.
Homme was firm on the matter.
"Go for it, man."
But I'm not sure. I mean, it belongs to me girlfriend, and it fits, and it looks all right, but...
"Just throw caution to the wind," said Homme, as if issuing an imperial edit. "Let go of those inhibitions you've got there and just wear your cable-knit."
Sound, said Alex. So, about this record...?
"I listened to the demo," said Homme. "I heard 30 seconds of it and thought, You're coming to the desert." Then, to himself, he added with relish. "And little do you know what's about to happen..."
That evening, Alex Turner wore his girlfriend's cable-knit jumper. A month or so later, he and his three bandmates were picked up from a Los Angeles hotel by Josh Homme and driven out to the small Mojave Desert town of Joshua Tree, where they began recording the new Arctic Monkeys album. One phone abut cable-knitwear later, Arctic Monkeys were off to southern California for a hot date.
....
Presiding throughout this transformative process [of recording Humbug], during the warm autumn days or late into the chilly desert nights, would be Alex Turner's girlfriend's cable-knit jumper.
"Josh likes to speak in analogies, in terms of how things should sound," says the Arctic Monkeys' songwriter with a chuckle, as he reflects upon the six-month gestation of his band's new album. "Cable-knits got mentioned a lot during recording. He was like, if you can wear a cable-knit you can put a glockenspiel on a tune. It became a metaphor: you can wear a cable-knit and then sonically we can try something different. We went off on a little adventure. Because we were conscious that if this were really going to work, we would have to open up a little more than we have in the past. Joshua Tree really feels far away. You felt..." He frowns, reaching for the right word. "Unpoliced."
Which all rather begs the question: does that six and a half foot ginger hunk of abiding rockness Josh Homme wear cable-knitwear? A small smile plays around the corners of Alex Turner's mouth.
"He assured me he did."
....
The previous evening Alex finally spoke to Josh Homme for the first time since Humbug's completion. After expressing his delight with the end results of their combat crawl through the Mojave badlands, Homme enquired whether Turner was going out later. Alex informed that he was. "Cable-knits?" asked Homme. "Cable-knits," said Alex, the Arctic Monkey, comfortable in the embrace of the strange.
(different anon) i love your conversation about miles' lyrics and i just want to say i recently found a video from a 2009 rascals concert in which miles plays colour of the trap! the description says miles said he wrote the song on that morning. so colour of the trap is like a post-France, post-TLSP1 song to me, with miles waiting for alex to make a move. also let's not forget he dedicated the song to alex in camden dingwalls in 2013!
Oh my GOSH, this is BEAUTIFUL https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_sW6_HpDY for anyone who’s interested! God how lovely, the quality is kinda shit but he sounds like he’s putting in so much effort :’) like the song really really means something, like a raw confession wow ok, definitely post France/tlsp1 vibes! Also yessss anon! I was totally thinking of how he dedicates this song to Alex! Like he’s saying “if you’ve not got it together and rand my mind by now, here’s a smack in the face to speed you up” gosh! They’re absolutely too much! This song is so beautiful, highly recommend listening :’)
Also here’s the link from the Camden show if anyone’s keen! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6hrirBQS2C0 (I’m crying because this venue is tiny tiny and I live literally round the corner, like a 3 minute walk if a crawl)
(I'm not calling him autistic. These are just some autistic traits that I've noticed that he has that neurotypicals can also have)
This is a list of ND traits, each with a few examples of instances or whatever:
Like to lead conversations and provide extensive information on the specific topics you are interested in.
Find it easier to talk ‘at’ people, rather than engaging in a two-way conversation.
“Oh… I forgot to bring my cheat sheet. I’ve got a folder with notes, which I planned on bringing with me. But it also feels a little know-it-all and self-conscious to start giving a lecture from my own notes here. My best line… I wouldn’t know! I simply don’t know all the lyrics by heart yet. [long pause] I think ‘Big Ideas’ as a whole is a very accomplished song.” [X]
Have your own unique phrases and descriptive words.
“A bone-coloured gentleman” - him describing a spider [X] [+post I made a while back about him and words]
Find building and maintaining close friendships and relationships difficult in a range of environments.
hmm 🤨
May use facial expressions and make gestures when speaking with people that others find unusual.
This whole interview is just him stimming but specifically watch 1:46 in the video when jamie mentions it
The Zane Lowe The Car Interview where he’s doing the same hand stim over and over again
He makes a pained expression sometimes when he’s just talking about normal things but there’s too many examples to get
Autistic individuals are often perceived as controlling. + Have a strong desire to set and follow rules, whether in the classroom, work or social situations.
“…but I'm quite a control freak." He grins. "There's a bit of that." [X]
Would you describe yourself as a control freak in the studio? “Yeah, probably… (Laughs) well, definitely. I think somebody needs to take the reins and I’m happy to do that. I’m sure it’s quite annoying for other people at times, but I think they’re glad that someone is… not exactly in charge but has a vision.” [X]
Alex Turner is not satisfied with the light of the room chosen to serve as the basis for our interview. It is a small and cozy hipster hotel in the neighborhood of Los Feliz, in Los Angeles, of those who are above a cafe with tables occupied by young people on the computer and without queues at the cash registers that do not accept cash payment. The leader of Arctic Monkeys, the largest rock band to leave the United Kingdom in the last 20 years, moves the switches until he finds the perfect balance of luminosity. "Is that okay with you?" he asks, but doesn't seem to care much about the answer. Turner likes to have full control over his environment. "Where do you want to sit? Here will be the best place, right?" he asks, with coffee in his hand, already standing in front of a small beige table below the lamp that insisted on not releasing the proper light. Shy to the point of never completing an entire sentence, as if the mouth did not accompany his fast brain, Turner is fully aware of his obsession with control and attention to detail, something that has become greater in recent years ahead of the band. [X]
Have intense conversational focus on subjects that interest you, combined with a minimal interest to engage in conversation on other topics.
This interview (2:08 - end) where he kept talking about wrestling (+finger flicking) while the interviewer kept trying to steer the conversation back to the question.
This TBHC moment where he got excited about something Zane said.
May speak in a monotone, with an accent, in a very proper and formal way or not at all.
I’m very excited. I want to just… y’know, jump up and down on the bed :|
Zane Lowe bullying his “nice one”
Making repetitive body movements, such as hand clapping, hand flapping or rocking, making noises, or frequently clearing the throat, also known as stimming.
Hair + Head/Neck hold
Rocking
His shoulder tappy thing + the shoulder hug thing he does when he’s nervous like when he met Julian Casablancas
Eyes
Jaw
Fingers + finger biting + finger biting (gay)
Arm rub
Legs
The Car
Prefer hanging around on your own, rather than joining in with others.
“I like to feel foreign, alone. That said, I probably live far too much inside my head, it would be good for me to have more relationships with real people.” [X]
There are fan stories about them seeing him eating alone at like 2am or something but those don’t count everyone does that
Anxiety in social settings
“[very long pause] I just don’t wanna get it wrong in front of everybody” (when asked about his favourite dessert)
Him apologising for calling Batman’s butler Albert instead of Alfred (I lost it ): )
His ipod suddenly playing T-Rex
“It’s gonna be alright…”
…The next day, Turner sends me an apologetic email. “I sat myself too far away from my internal cue cards and few sentences made it to the finish line,” he admits. [X]
I would fire a question at them and Miles would respond at length while Alex would emit, perhaps, a tiny smile and draw back a little further in his chair. If you address a question directly to Alex he clams up. If you ignore him then, bit by bit, he comes back because Alex clearly thinks Miles is amazing. [X]
"I was racking me brain for this," he admits in his undimmed Northern accent, holding up a little piece of paper covered in hand-scratched recollections. (Mistaking the hotel lunch menu for his notes at one point, he even cracks a self-deprecating joke; Tuscan kale, he knows, is not the answer we came for.) [X]
Ability to “hyper-focus” on work or a specific interest
“I’d just gotten obsessed with cardboard.” (not a great example but it’s funny)
Experiencing emotions more intensely than others
- “He just feels a bit…. I don’t know… Fragile”
Often accused of being rude or blunt.
no need for example
May have perfectionism in certain areas.
Find that others don’t understand how you are feeling and say that “it is hard to know what you are thinking”.
I can’t find a good example for these two, but it’s been mentioned before.
Masking, where specific behaviours are consciously or unconsciously concealed to fit into social norms or to avoid negative responses from others.
"You know how Shakira's hips don't lie? Well mine are incredibly good liars. A mask if you like." (I looked everywhere for the video I had it saved a few years ago but I can’t find it)
Echolalia and vocal stims
“Stupid slow dirty PC” & “The year is 1965” [X]
“Ipswich”
“In the big room”
“Spectrum section spectrum” (was not a stutter, he just liked those words together)[X]
Stealing peoples accents and mannerisms
Andy: “…he soaks accents up a lot, ‘cause when he started hanging around with Miles quite a lot, he started to get a bit of a Scouse twinge to his accent.” [X]
His Americanish accent in that SIAS interview (I can’t find it, but he says the word “pretty” in an American accent)
Dino hands: This unique posture, colloquially known as "autistic T-Rex arms," is commonly observed among autistic individuals.
Dino hand compilation
While not every neurodivergent person reports high justice sensitivity, and many people with high justice sensitivity are not autistic or ADHD, this can be an autistic or ADHD trait.
The Green Book: Everyday Guide to Saving The Planet [you can also spot “The Abortion” and “Natural cures and gentle medicines”]
Recycling (4:00)
Telling the interviewer that it’s wrong to say “The Gays” [X] (5:06)
“I once stole a ‘Dip Dap’. I walked out of the shop immersed in thought and when I came to the next crossing, while I was enjoying my lolly, I suddenly realised that I hadn’t paid for it. So I walked back to the shop and kindly paid for it.” [X]
May struggle with eye-contact (either too little or too much)
“Alex Turner on the other hand is an inveterate fiddler with keys or phone while he talks. Otherwise he has the slightly unnverving habit of staring at you unblinkingly with his dark brown eyes, like a curious young horse.” [X]
Some autistic individuals struggle with being on time
“Matt: He's always late. He's like clockwork in his lateness. Yesterday in Southhampton, the bus was picking us up at half 12 at the hotel to go to the venue, and [tour manager] Timm phoned him, goes, 'Al, where are you? The bus is here.' Everybody knew what time they had to be down there. He said, 'I'm watching Danger Mouse'. He was still in bed.” [X]
Obsessive interests
Whatever show he's currently watching (The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, True Detective etc…): “[Staring] Sorry, I’m just thinking about True Detective” [X] (17:53)
Space
Films (maybe this interview the most) + this clip “Man, Alex was really into this whole sci-fi thing, Man…” [X]
etc…
Zoning out/taking a long time to think
“Well, everything has changed. [2 minutes of silence while you can almost hear a movie playing in his head] …” [X]
Cluedo Enthusiast interview!
Distracted Compilation
Zoning out compilation
People describing him:
‘With Alex, I knew this was someone unconventional, a little bit different, with a brightness and a cleverness that would serve him well. He had a very original sense of humour, as you'd expect, but he was always quite reserved. I remember giving a class a bollocking once, and he was sitting there like Gromit from Wallace and Gromit – mute, but with these incredibly expressive raised eyebrows, as if he was saying sarcastically: "Ooooh – we've really cocked it up now."’
Alex was never particularly vocal, but you could sense when some pieces of poetry moved him. [X]
I think one of the Gallaghers called him a weird guy but he likes him or smt it was a tweet
“…In fact I began to think that Alex (Turner) might be in touch with them (aliens) in some way, the way he works on his lyrics. If there was a line to hone or edit he’d step outside without paper or a pen, stare at the horizon for a few seconds, then walk right back in and deliver some majestic new couplet. Seeing him conjure these lines from nothing I wonder if he’s not at least part extraterrestrial himself.” - Josh Homme
Other:
Doesn’t like hearing himself
“And yet, in person, Turner, a man acclaimed as the voice of his generation, is surprisingly tongue-tied. “Where am I going with this? Uh… I… Yeah… No… I’m sorry, I’ve completely lost it,” he says at one point. “I just hear myself talking sometimes and I’m like bleurgh!” [X]
Taking off Headphones Compilation
Characters/embodiment autism
How he changes looks, haircuts, voices, accents etc depending on where he is in his life at a specific moment.
This Compilation
Twitchy Compilation + him twitching when his phone rings here
Taratata
how hes weird in fan photos idk (not that he’s always weird but yknow)
The one instagram post where the fan asked him to smile and said it didn’t work out (I can’t find it they were skiing and she was a waitress) all i have is this:
I think in the last gif they said he was shy (and smelled like cigarettes)
well he’s terrible at faking a smile in general:
stupid smile compilation
Something about change? He’s been wearing the same clothes until they’re worn out and he always uses that brown bag. I dunno he seems like he loves change but I don’t know him and it’s none of my business (I’m aware of how ironic it is that I’m saying this at the end of this post)
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As person with a recent diagnosis of autism, so much of this is relatable. It doesn't mean Alex is autistic. He is also a genius and sometimes people who think on a much higher level than the rest of us can come across as 'different'. But it's hard to explain but all my life I have felt that the internal me and the external me have a gap between them and people never see the real me, and I get that feeling with Alex.
He is so protective of his inner/true self that he's happy to create personas and keep himself private. So he is happy for all these assumptions to be made about him because it's about the persona, not him (the Shakira/mask comment)
I was thinking earlier on how Miles possibly has ADHD, and would love to know if anyone here has ADHD if they think he shows signs?
i didn't slow down these gifs so you can see exactly how leisurely alex is running off the stage versus zooming back on so he doesn't miss his cue. [x]
Found this interview about OMB that I’d not seen before: x. Here’s the quote from Miles that shook me:
“So I thought: how honest and real can you be? How naked can you be? If you have a song called ‘Scared Of Love’ and you’re talking about being scared of love and someone knowing that you are, there’s this sort of sad understanding from their side as well.”
Erm, can we just think about this comment for a moment please? Because this isn’t something he said years ago, it was said in an interview last year. At the time he said he was single AND he hadn’t been in an official relationship for a while. So when he talks about being scared of love “and someone knowing that you are, there’s this sort of sad understanding from their side as well” surely he’s not referring to an ex? It doesn’t sound like an ex. And would he really be hung up about an ex this long later?? So, that leads me to the conclusion that it must be someone still in his life…
I used to know Alex Turners girlfriend (ex) Taylor Bagleys when I was living in LA. I knew back then that her and Alex had broken up twice it took a break from each other twice. I think Taylor was self admittedly a lot to handle and was struggling with alcohol dependency I know November 2016 they weren’t together and they both needed a breather. (She’s sober now I believe) For a while she became upset because he was in France working or something and they were together at this time and she had not been invited but I kinda lost interest at this point we weren’t ever close. Anyway I saw today a post from his new girlfriend who is French and I was wondering if we knew how they were introduced? Anyway sorry for the paragraph I’m just being nosey 😋
we don’t know how they were introduced but we’d love to know lol
