Vegan Venting

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[pomegranateuser]

in light of billie eilish’s “hot take” about veganism, I’d just like to say I am so sick and tired of non-indigenous people using our communities and practices as an excuse, to hide behind their own shame when really they don’t give a shit about indigenous peoples. they don’t talk about us in any other aspect besides this one and it’s only to cover their own backs. indigenous communities that have to hunt for their own food for survival is very different than going into a supermarket and buying packaged meat. these communities have quotas, they use every part of the animal, and they are responsible for taking care of most of our ecosystem. any good, intersectional vegan knows this and understands that it would be very colonial of them to go into these spaces and try and change that. saying this, there are a lot of indigenous people who are vegans and they are largely ignored because it doesn’t fit their narrative of the “noble savage” which is also a racist view of indigenous people.

[milkandvoid]

[shamebats]

"Veganism is anti-Indigenous" is a talking point non-Indigenous people use to avoid accountability, and it's literally the noble savage trope. It assumes we all hunt and fish, erasing Indigenous vegans, plant-based traditions, AND the fact that the meat and dairy industry is actively destroying Indigenous lands, waters, and food systems. Using us as a shield while buying your meat from the grocery store is tokenism. We're not your excuse.

Tiktok post by @ hiililylani (she/her).

"But what about-" what about them? Are YOU them? Is that YOUR case? If not, then stop using them as an excuse for why you walk past the black beans, tofu, lentils, and other affordable plant-based protein options in your grocery store to get your overpriced ground beef from a corporation that's destroying the Amazon rainforest to mass produce the cows yall can't stop eating.

[milkandvoid]

[gaytrees]

plant based diet. as opposed to meat cringe diet

[mellowcomet]

im not only vegan for the animals. i'm vegan for the people who work on the killing floor at slaughterhouses who are deeply traumatized by the horrible acts theyre forced to commit. i'm vegan for small communities who rely on small-scale fishing to survive, who have ran out of fish to eat due to massive industrial overfishing by wealthy western countries. i'm vegan for anyone who will become a climate refugee in the future due to rising sea levels and natural disasters. i'm vegan for the wild birds suffering and dying from avian flu caused by industrial poultry farming. i'm vegan for the people in rural communities who have ancestral ties to land that was forcibly taken from them for the sake of factory farming.

human rights are animal rights and you cannot be truly vegan if you don't acknowledge the human suffering that's caused by factory farming too. veganism is part of intersectional fights for human rights. veganism is not the same as ecofascism. a significant percentage of the population going vegan is essential to secure the rights of marginalized communities and fight permanent disaster due to climate change. not literally everyone has to go vegan, everyone should see for themselves what they can do, and i am not forcing anyone into anything. but we need to treat mass animal abuse with the weight and seriousness it deserves.

[shamebats]

Oh, you eat animal products? Isn't it hard? Where do you get your fiber? Do you take supplements? Yikes, I could never do that. I had to buy organic free range meat and eggs for someone who's on an animal product diet once and it was sooo expensive, it's definitely only something for rich people haha. My uncle was on a strict animal product diet, you know? Yeah, he died. Colon cancer. It's a risky thing, this trend, you have to know what you're doing and really make sure you get proper nutrition, but most people go on it thinking it'll make them healthy but then they just eat junk food and wonder why they feel bad and are constipated all the time. Not everyone has the time and energy to learn how to safely prepare meat, and it's so bland too! Do you ever crave a tasty, well-seasoned seitan steak? I actually tried cow's milk once, it was so weird, I'd rather have the real stuff, straight from the plant like nature intended. My mom was on a carnivore diet for 3 months and she felt so bad, her doctor actually told her to stop. It's definitely not for everyone, but I guess you have your reasons. Did you know it's like really bad for the environment? Yeah, uses lots of water, poisons lakes with poo, and they torture the animals to death and workers get PTSD from it. People think "animal based" means natural but actually most of it comes from factory farms. Just thought you should know, you probably didn't think of that when you decided to start this diet. I could never deny myself plants like that, must take a lot of restraint. Most people don't last long. Are you sure you don't want the chickpea curry? Not even a little bit? Haha, just teasing, you meat eaters are so sensitive.

[the-animal-tern]

But no one can eat the flesh of a slaughtered animal without having used the hand of a man as slaughterer. Suppose that we had to kill for ourselves the creatures whose bodies we would fain have upon our table, is there one woman in a hundred who would go to the slaughterhouse to slay the bullock, the calf, the sheep or the pig? ... But if we could not do it, nor see it done; if we are so refined that we cannot allow close contact between ourselves and the butchers who furnish this food; if we feel that they are so coarsened by their trade that their very bodies are made repulsive by the constant contact of the blood with which they must be continually besmirched; if we recognize the physical coarseness which results by the brutalization of others, and demand that some should be brutal in order that we may eat the results of their brutality? We are not free from the brutalizing results of that trade simply because we take no direct part in it.

Annie Besant. Speech given at Manchester, 18th October 1897.

[vegspoblr]

people on tumbler dot corn will be like "you really think veganism will change anything? that's such bourgeois thinking, which pales in effectiveness to my revolutionary strategy: doing nothing"

[jadeblueafterglow]

carnists get so mad when you call them out on their cognitive dissonance. you're the one claiming to love animals while supporting their mistreatment, but you're mad at me for pointing it out? you're not mad at your own hypocrisy??

[gothhabiba]

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[acti-veg]

I’ve been admiring the success of animal agriculture industry shills on this platform for a while now, so I’d like to share my own price list for any potential interested parties:

£5: I will pretend that I own a leather coat passed down in my family since WWI.

£12: I will forget that any other materials exist besides leather, wool and plastic. For an extra £2, I’ll also shame some poor people who can’t afford to buy animal fabrics in the process.

£15: I will (with a straight face) claim that I only eat cheeseburgers because some indigenous people have to hunt to survive. Alternatively, I can claim that food deserts are the reason I eat meat, despite me not living anywhere near one.

£20: I will weaponise whatever social justice issue is in vogue at the time. I can pretend I believe quinoa is picked by child slaves, vegans eating soy is responsible for deforestation, or that the mere suggestion that animals should have rights is racist or ableist. Enough people who also secretly feel bad about not being vegan will share it uncritically that it’ll drown out anyone offering a sensible rebuttal.

£30: While professing to be a leftist, I will abandon all of my existing anti-capitalist values as soon as animal agriculture is mentioned, and argue for a level of trust in corporate entities that would make a Republican blush. When questioned about this inconsistency, I’ll silence my critics up by asking them if they’ve ever worked on a farm. The fact that I haven’t either will hopefully never come up.

£50: I will make a series of claims about how vegans are destroying the environment. I will make sure these posts appear in the vegan tag, then react with shock and fury when vegans respond to it. I will not be asked for a source, but if I am, I will respond with a 1989 study published in Big Beef Magazine, while insisting on an impossible burden of proof for anyone trying to disprove my claims. No one will question this.

£100: I’ll pretend that I think that veganism is only for rich, white, able-bodied people. When people who don’t fit that stereotype tell me I’m erasing them, I will ignore and/or block them. I’ll have to also pretend that I think beef is less expensive than rice, beans or lentils. When someone calls me out on this, I’ll just move goal the goalposts and start ranting about how not everyone has time to cook. I’ll need another £5 to forget how to read every time someone quotes the Vegan Society definition at me.

Anyway please get back to me if you’re interested; we’ve started pretending fur is sustainable now too so I’ve got my eye on a humane (lmao) mink coat. Chat soon my problematic faves, as a huge lover of leather it would be a genuine pleasure to lick your boot.

[sailermoon]

do not raise a foul word against tofu in my presence

[oatsbeansbarley]

I hate when people act like being vegan is boring. Like, my guy, just this week, I've had 3 or 4 different dishes from various world cuisines and a life changing salad. You've what? Eaten the same dead animal from 3 different fast food restaurants?

[belloochie]

hair silky like tofu

ass firm like another kind of tofu

[val-mora]

#Tits moderate firm yet jiggly like a third kind of tofu

[vegan-butch]

"Vegans should eat (clams, honey, bugs, eggs) and use (wool, leather, gelatin)"

You don't know what vegan means! Veganism is about not using animal products because animals aren't for us to use! The suffering is relevant but veganism is not simply about reducing suffering, it's a whole ass ideology beyond that.

[taghna-deactivated20211125]

how can people be so rude and don’t feel bad afterwards… When I don’t say thank you or don’t smile back I’ll think about it for 3 months straight and have flashbacks