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this site is actually insane and so amazing for anyone who reads historical cnovels and wants to understand historical context

you can find things like: * this map of chang'an when it was the capital of the tang dynasty

or * this reference on the various measurements and units, their conversions to more widely known western units, and their regional/dynastic variations or * this list of sayings related to marriage

etc etc etc

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Am I the only one who didn't feel betrayed by Kiriona? I see a lot of stuff about how people expected Gideon but felt like Kiriona's antagonism was a slap in the face, or they realized that their loyalty had shifted away from her, and I just...didn't? My first thought with her was, "oh honey, you need a hug."

Maybe it's my own brand of mental illness, but I understand the whole, no you're not suicidal but you don't really want to be alive either and you don't see any way out and it's all just so hopeless and meaningless so sometimes you lash out just to feel something. That's depression, y'all. Our girl is hanging on by a thread and that thread is finding Harrow.

She's not an imperial stooge any more than she was a nun. She just literally can't say no or they'll turn her off. You think she didn't learn anything from her 84 escape attempts? I know it has kind of become fanon that she's dumb, but she's really, really not. She can't find Harrow if she's turned off (heh).

She gave it away when she she told Nona that she didn't care where Harrow was, she just needed to know.

Our girl is still in there, she's just been through some shit. Tonally, I think the end of HtN when she's piloting Harrow's body is the perfect bridge between Gideon at the end of GtN and Kiriona.

To me her character arc so far is the most transparent and relatable. Like, I will never understand how Camilla got to the point of thinking Paul was a good idea. That's just not how I tick. But Kiriona? Damn do I get it.

I think the final proof is that she still sees herself as Harrow's cavalier (which I think is going to spark a serious convo with Harrow at some point bc Harrow knows that cavs are meant to die so obviously Harrow won't want that). She is fucking ready to throw down with Alecto to offer herself (again) to Harrow. "Get in line, thou big slut" indeed.

#tumblr user vengeful-horde-of-angry-ghosts gets it #‘I am the emperor’s construct’ said kiriona meaning it in the most literal worst depression-inducing way possible #i do wonder how far the emperor’s control of kiriona goes. like he can switch her off. can she physically disobey his orders?#could he puppet her? very much get the feeling that she’s like a better functioning cooler version of protesilaus w a more intact personalit #kiriona gaia #ntn spoilers #gideon nav #tlt #the locked tomb #queued

dr-skelebones

I'm on a midnight locked tomb posting rampage sooooo I'd just like to point out that the Gideon in the bible is a Judge of Israel who is most famous for destroying the altars of false gods 👀

ortustheninth

I bet Kiriona smashes those BoE portraits of her mom. Remember how Pyrrha refers to Wake as We Suffer’s “God” (capitalized and everything)

#hell yeah kiriona she’s getting all sorts of hitherto undiscovered daddy issues I think she deserves to work out some of her mommy issues #to balance it all out #the locked tomb #gideon nav #ntn #kiriona gaia #commander wake #should probably find the quote before this posts. hm

have I ever said that I think the mithraeum is the moon. if not, I think the mithraeum is the moon

#the locked tomb #john gaius’ universe renovation; where’s that post talking about how he probably stuck the nine houses in some pocket dimension #i need it

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Empty’s just another word for clean.

#absolutely obsessed w the way alecto’s hair is drawn #the locked tomb #nona the ninth #alecto the ninth

We are in the naberius tern renaissance

#can it be a renaissance if actually this is the first time I’ve seen such a proliferation of babs meta?#no hate to anyone who’s been making hair gel jokes I also laughed at them #but the babs-gideon parallels are Thru The Roof so I HAVE to like the man. it’s like compulsory #actually I don’t think I will put this in the main tag #babs #naberius tern #<-organization for my blog

emperor june gaius. does this mean anything

#emperor john gaius #actually there are reasons I think this. but I am incoherent and do not feel like typing them out #tlt #the locked tomb

I should not be allowed around online stores. I do stupid things like biy all my mutuals Tumblr crabs.

I feel like I’ve been given access to a spell to put in my spell book

#one time use crab summoning #thank u fellow tumblr user and tlt conspiracist neathrablog #putting this in a draft for like 2 hrs bc for whatever reason I don’t like posting immediately lol

ortustheninth

What do you think tazmuir is implying about Augustine

Fratricide :(

dont-wake-the-dragon

Welp, time for another reread because unfortunately I think you may be on to something here

ortustheninth

not the peer review I wanted, but perhaps the peer review the world needed

#we all have our flaws and mine is responding to things a month late #the quinque twins really do make me so sad even wo potential fratricide which actually looks very likely #imagine being augustine and recovering your memories that your god put on the high shelf #and surprise! god may’ve sparked a nuclear war killed the solar system and He may be partially responsible for your brothers’ second death #but you were partially responsible for the first!! really makes you wonder a) if this was a consideration in god’s decision to wipe their #memories. nothing tears a friend group apart faster than murdering each other after all #and b) how did pyrrha remember gideon’s original name? could alfred and Augustine also have actually recovered their memories?#hope u apologize to your brother in hell and demonstrate how you’ve since changed as a person if so augustine #anyways thank u tumblr user dont-wake-the-dragon very much for the peer review even tho it hurt my heart #such is the nature of tlt #nona the ninth spoilers

something about the things john tries to do out of love growing teeth. The flowers he grew for his best friends’ wedding, the wound that fatally killed his daughter sprouting teeth he brought her back. meat can’t love meat if its’ only got gums. you need teeth to break through the skin.

#having a totally normal one guys. as always this came to me in a mind state like a fever dream #tlt #the locked tomb #nona the ninth spoilers #emperor john gaius #is kiriona’s chussy a character? should I tag it?#tlt spoilers #ntn

Don’t think any of us are appreciating the horror of Crux being left in charge of the Ninth at its time of replenishment, when it is being filled with hundreds of new penitents aged 17-40 who are completely unpenitent just because they do not know who or what the locked tomb is.

All those ‘imagine being killed in a nuclear fission chain reaction and then waking up on a goth catholic cult on pluto where the only allowed hobbies are devotion, violence, and suffering. would that suck or what.’ joke posts were very funny but also now that that is actual canon. I am thinking about that sullen teenage girl with the spear from Nona, and how many times Crux tried to murder Gideon, how he really DID murder Ortus; I am thinking about these things and I am filled with the spiritual craving to be able to call space Child Protective Services

#tlt #the locked tomb #nona the ninth spoilers #marshal crux #tlt spoilers #the ninth house #no fr crux is seriously my least favorite character in this entire series #gideon may be horrified over killing him which is very narratively satisfying and all; I love when the daughter succeeds where the father #failed #HOWEVER. however. gideon could’ve given the sword to me and I would’ve done it in a heartbeat no qualms whatsoever #the pros of crux being dead VASTLY outweigh the cons (harrow being sad)#(the pros being crux can no longer continue to emotionally&physically abuse upwards of 200 people if Im remembering right.#including Yet Another teenage girl. fuck crux fuck the ninth all my homies hate crux and the ninth

While it's horribly possible, I do have to wonder if one factor is that John can't let things go. He can't comprehend that the situation has changed dramatically. That even historical Augustine (who is the same man, just with a different set of trauma) would probably react differently because Two Different Situations.

It's one situation to shoot someone in a moment of rage - impulse acts of violence are how most murders happen (jury is out on if Augustine is the type of person who would kill his brother in a fit of anger.).

But that's not what's happening anymore - the extermination campaign against BOE, isn't an increasingly heated argument when the wound of betrayal is still raw, and the people responsible are still here. It's an genocide campaign against innocent people who have done literally nothing to them except be related to someone who did something evil 10k years ago.

Or John is still wrong even if he's technically right.

I keep trying and failing to write an answer to this bc it keeps devolving into a psychoanalysis on John. But after much reflection I’ve concluded that driving fallacy behind John, and maybe tlt as a whole, is that John doesn’t believe in changing as a person unless it’s for the worse, and thru practical application, has made this The Entire Universe’s problem.

So yes I think you are Absolutely Right; John can’t let things go, and that means he’s committed to the decision he made a myriad ago to be a horrible person and refuses to consider he could just,, stop doing that. change his mind. acknowledge maybe the atrocities were bad and he doesn’t need to commit any more. So obvi it’s a huge betrayal when Augustine does exactly that.

#nona the ninth spoilers #John really did sunk cost fallacy himself into becoming so rancid even Mercymorn agreed he was too toxic for the polycule #emperor john gaius #augustine quinque #tlt spoilers

What do you think tazmuir is implying about Augustine

Fratricide :(

#going tbh tho my thoughts on this are NOT ironed out. but the ‘nobody likes a peacemaker’ line haunts me #SOMEONE on their side shot Alfred; would be very metaphor of tazmuir to have it be Augustine #tlt #nona the ninth spoilers #augustine the first #alfred quinque #the locked tomb #nona the ninth #tlt spoilers #the locked tomb series #half the problem is that sometimes jod tells the unvarnished truth. most times he is just lying out of his ass. SO maybe jod has solid iron #proof that Augustine would wish death upon someone who said ‘let go it; no one needs to be punished for what happened/is happening to earth’#and skimmed the chapter where Alfred (and everyone else) dies and there’s nothing that contradicts Augustine pulling the trigger.#which considering he’s his brother. you’d think there might be SOMETHING #altho there was. a lot else going on and it’s john ‘egomaniac central’ gaius narrating #but it would line up with christobel’s 1st and 2nd death paralleling each other. ok ok I’m going to stop talking in the tags now. trul #if u have read this far in the tags and have any thoughts please tell me them I have 2 brain cells and have already worked them to max capa #city coming up w my own thoughts on this and there was not a whole lot of quality control during the process #ntn #I have answered like 2 asks ever so I do not know the secret ask etiquette. apologies for any violations they were inadvertent

Please dear jod. Let ms. tazmuir not be implying what I think she’s implying here. Amen

#alfred quinque #augustine the first #nona the ninth spoilers #the locked tomb #tlt #tlt spoilers #nona the ninth #I don’t think she’d have mentioned this wo a reason. What Is That Reason and it’d better not be what I think it is #would deeply welcome anyone else’s thoughts on this bc mine are just ‘dear jod no’#ntn

Wow it’s so fun and quirky that G1deon has very troubling memory problems the extent of which we don’t fully know, and Pyrrha, who lives in the exact same body with the same exact same brain remembers the name God tried to take away from G1deon

#shaking the bars of my metaphorical enclosure what does it MEAN what does it all MEAN #pyrrha dve #tlt #nona the ninth spoilers #the locked tomb #gideon the first #tlt spoilers #og lyctors #hahaha classic john gaius shenanigans

Something something how John refers to those that would become necromancers’ as ‘his’ and by name but those that would become cavaliers are called things like ‘M-‘s nun’ and ‘C-‘s artist’. Trickle down economics for messed-up power dynamics’ or something

#tlt #the locked tomb #nona the ninth spoilers #nona the ninth #tlt spoilers #john gaius #and yeah there’s like. a lot more here I feel. someone else who is not me should go into that #ntn #og lyctors #How even his loved ones’ relationships with their loved ones become victim to John viewing love as possessing and consuming.

The corpses John loved didn’t decay; Gideon loved her hypothetical dead mom before she even saw her skeleton and Wake stuck around as a revenant for 20 years

#tlt #the locked tomb #ntn spoilers #commander wake #gideon nav #is there a connection. am I drawing lines between pins i myself am sticking in the board who can say #but this came to me like an arrow fired from cupids’ bow if cupid bestowed tlt theories and not Twu Wuv while I was reading an article on #the color of egg yolks (either xanthophylls or carotene if you’re curious) so obvi I’ve gotta post it

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