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My contribution to the "Vox is a creep" discourse 🤡
FOR REAL. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED
Hopping on the Vox-meets-human-Alastor train cuz I'm obsessed
Since so many people have expressed wanting to read a fic based on this, I'll make you a deal.
If this post gets to 1K reblogs and 5K likes, I'll write the fic.
Man I can't believe we're getting to see these two all up in each other's spaces (both initiated the contacted at different times fwi).
They really got some fire behind this thing between them. I wonder why Alastor rejected him so harshl- .... wait
WAIT. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT??
Is that a painting of a shirtless Vox riding his pet shark, Shock.wav?? Am I seeing this correctly?
Because you KNOW that Vox commissioned this nerdy ass painting from Val. There's no way he came up with this fuckery on his own.
OMG THIS IS GOLD
What the fuck compelled ViviziePop to, in the year of our lord 2025, come out and with her full chest announce
"Yeah radical action and protesting and banding together with your community and having a political leader that listens to the needs and voices of the people (that I literally named "Voice of the People") is a bad thing, anyone who tries to organise protests and uprisings is evil and selfish and lying to you. You should forgive a literal genocide if the people that committed it say they're vewy sowwy and they won't ever ever do it again, they totally mean it!"
Like. Huh.
Huuuuuh???????????
Hey, just so you know, MAGA sees themselves as people acting collectively against establishment. So the message "bad people will use your sense of subjective deprivation and redirect your energy towards their interest" is more important than ever. But you'd have to sincerely engage with the story to understand it I guess.
Well I think Vox is right and I root for him. Cause how are you gonna forgive genocide with an apology and GIFT BASKETS!? "Oh but they have taffys!" And you... need help. Seriously Abel, wtf? Anyways, I love this show cause there are no bad guys and good guys, everyone is shitty. Just figure out the shit you tolerante best
Don’t mind this I just want it and drew it
Please Don’t Think I’m Crazier Than Usual!
But….. I just had a Donita headcanon I wanted to share, I have not thought too much into it, so bear with me!
The headcanon is… I kind of think Donita has a bad experience with a romantic relationship in the past (specifically a romantic relationship with a man). The way she acts around Martin, and the way she interacts with other men kind of gives me the impression that something happened at some point which caused her to have strong, possessive reactions to some men (Martin) and dismissive reactions to other men (Zach, Gourmand, Dabio).
Donita may have the possessive reactions she does to Martin because he is the exact opposite of her former partner; Martin, in other words, is a safe zone for her, someone she trusts and feels safe with and connected to. But on the opposite end of she spectrum, she may react poorly to Zach, Gourmand, and Dabio because they exhibit actions and attitudes similar to her former partner. She acts superior to them in an attempt to position herself as someone who will not be harmed or taken advantage of again, and these men obviously read the message loud and clear: they do not retaliate against her.
I don’t know if that makes sense at all, but that’s all I’ve got for now! Feel free to comment or reblog with your opinions on this!
Honestly... I agree. But she did not have to do Dabio dirty 😔
“Maybe Claudia had a reason! I think she’s fine! She had a reason! God forbid a woman has hobbies and that’s killing!” - Racquel
Raquel has got the right idea... I'm just sayin..
soft staticmoth exists trust me
Like why is no one talking about this part in the movie 🥀
I LOVED THIS PART AND IMMEDIATELY STARTED SINGING
HOW DID I NEVER NOTICE THIS UNTIL JUST NOW?!?!?!
OMG I DIDNT NOTICE EITHER. THIS IS SUCH AN AWESOME DETAIL, I CANT-
glad google ai is on top of this
Renfield.
This assumes a single fly weighs 8g, which is the weight of a 1-2 week old mouse (!). If you are unfamiliar with metrics: 100g is a bit less a quarter of a pound.
Btw, Wikipedia says a single house fly weighs in the range of 0.2 grams, so Google has discovered a world where flies are about 40x bigger
I was going to tell you that horseflies still absolutely do not weigh 8 grams
but I found a funnier answer
Yall are acting like eating flies is something normal
Don't mind me, just casually feeling emo about the fact that without a moments hesitation, Aaravos offered his life in place of Leola's because of how much he loved her and her living was the only thing that mattered to him.
"Without her, mine is not worth living."
Yet the Council didn't care and no matter what, Leola would be condemned to die anyway.
Aaravos was put in an impossible position that no parent should be put into.
Who's still around here in the TDP fandom?
Sound off
Still here, but sometimes I go somewhat quiet.
I'm currently preparing another round of rewatch commentary 🥰
Here :)
Still here!
here!
here!!
I'm here but I'm suffering from post-s7 stress 😞
Still here but quiet because idk what to talk about rn 😭
Where arc 3?
EeEeEEeEeEEOOo. I'm here. No new stuff. Sad
By taking out the Archdragons, Aaravos removes anyone from being able to contact the Cosmic Council. For example, there would be no one left to be able to tell them that Callum is a human Primal Mage.
Obviously, it would cause big issues for Callum if they were to find out he was a human Primal Mage. And with the Archdragons now dead, it gives way for humans to freely be able to learn Primal Magic again without fear.
You can't tell me that Rex wouldn't have dobbed in Callum had he had known he was a Primal Mage. He knew he had a Primal Stone and could therefore do magic, but he did not know he was a Primal Mage. Rex still refers to Aaravos as Betrayer for his work helping humans so he very much still has his anti human bias.
As for Domina, a reminder that she said this when first referring to Ezran.
Now yes, she does end up friendly with Ezran but she still looks down upon humans with this being her immediate reaction. (I can't be the only one who found it weird that she gave her life for them in the end.)
Now for Zubeia. Remember this:
If she somehow wasn't still somewhat pro Order, why would she say "First Elves"? Remember, these are still the same people who had Leola murdered for kindly giving magic to humans after Sol Regem dobbed her in. Why does Zubeia look upon them so fondly?
One thing I also found kind of weird is how Ezran says that Callum is the first human Primal Mage in centuries, whereas Callum says that he is the first human Primal Mage.
So which is the truth?
Well, this goes into theory territory but I believe at some point, there was a time that humans did learn and understand Primal Magic but they were killed by the Cosmic Council. I really don't believe Callum would be the first human to figure out Primal Magic after all this time, especially after Ezran's comment. That just really doesn't make any sense.
Aaravos is the creator of Dark Magic and the one who suffered most at the hand of the Cosmic Council. Does Dark Magic perhaps protect humans from the Cosmic Council at the cost of "compromise"? And Aaravos doesn't even really even control Dark Mages very often at all via this "compromise" because otherwise he could have easily just controlled Viren instead of working with him. Same with Callum in season 4 instead of just roasting the cast and then dipping.
Its an interesting topic I hope we get the answer to at some point. But ultimately, Aaravos has now made it so there are no more people that can dob Callum in as a Primal Mage. And human Primal Mages are now free to roam again.
I'm just glad someone else found out
I had a whole post written up and tumblr ate it so I'll just sum it up with
the supposed distinction between dark and primal magic is blurrier than ever, while the narrative is insisting harder than ever that dark magic is evil, and the only reasoning given remains "Why? Just trust us, it's bad!"
Seriously!
Everything about Viren's backstory proves the opposite of what they're saying about Dark Magic. They're telling us one thing while showing us another.
Viren betrayed his mentor? No, his mentor betrayed Viren first when he was going to let a child die in order to preserve his oh so important sense of moral purity. Let me repeat that:
He was going to let a child. Die.
This isn't like Claudia healing Soren's paralysis. Where curing someone of a disability jumps headfirst into ableism. This is a life threatening condition.
Viren comes back home and why does Soren's mother refuse to help? Because he had a facial difference. Like, I hope I don't need to explain why making facial differences a mark of evil is bad for real people who actually have to live with said differences.
Frankly the fact that Dark Mages are demonized because they risk being "burned" every time they cast a spell proves nothing except how shallow and cruel this world is.
Viren didn't start off as a power hungry despot. He started as a father desperately trying to keep his firstborn alive.
"Oh but Dark Magic corrupted him!"
Finnegrin didn't need any dark magic to corrupt him. Neither did Anak Arow. Or the former Sunfire Queen. All of these characters were corrupted by the power they held over people weaker than them.
Why does it only count as corruption when it's Dark Magic?
The writer's are desperately trying to portray Dark Magic as inherently evil. That Dark Magic is what led Viren to becoming evil.
Except we literally don't see that. Viren didn't become evil because of some nebulous force.
Viren became a bad person because he chose to be.
Viren chose to become a bad father. Viren chose to pit his children against each other. Viren chose to betray King Harrow.
Viren chose to save the people of Katolis at great cost to himself.
The writer's insistence on moralizing while the characters they wrote use Black Magic to save lives shows that they haven't unlearned anything about the imperialist ideology they were raised in.
That's not me being hyperbolic. All the writers are white and were raised in an imperialist nation. It colors everything about the Dragon Prince. Not least of which is their inability to acknowledge genocide even when they wrote it into the world's backstory.
Thanks for bringing in the big analysis guns when I was too frustrated!
If the narrative acknowledged the CHOICE to be good or bad as the real saving grace or corrupting force, it would have to acknowledge how much bad stuff the "good guys" have chosen to do. So it never will. Because if you tally up their sins, the protags are just as bad as any antagonist and worse than some.
I will say this in Lissa's defense, I don't think it is fair to say that she refused to save Soren's life. Her husband came home one day looking really scary and making demands of her that she in all likelihood did not understand, and he was determined to take what he needed regardless of her consent. That is honestly a very effective way of showing why Lissa left because no matter how harmless the request really was or how justified it was to save a child's life, he still violated her bodily autonomy to do it. She didn't do a single thing wrong here.
Where the story fails is in convincing me that this dehumanization is unique or inherent to Dark Magic. @kradogsrats made a pretty good meta on how Dark Magic is narratively about dehumanization, but while I can appreciate a story working in metaphors and allegories, it really doesn't work here. It's all well and good to try to identify a core cause of evil, but if you want to insist that Dark Magic is this metaphor for dehumanization and that is why it can never be used ethically, then it really sticks out when they treat their metaphor as the only form of dehumanization that counts. Ezran can make all the pretty speeches he likes about choosing love, but when push comes to shove he dehumanizes Claudia and rationalizes any way to deal with her. Soren can call an army of people "monsters" (despite how often the narrative insists how dehumanizing that is) for submitting to a dark magic spell, but then demand that Viren do that same spell to save everyone (treating his father as a fix-it machine and not a person in the process). This is why I think they lean so heavily into the more arbitrary fantasy aspects of dark magic this season, particularly the "it leaves a hole in your soul" part. You gotta distinguish the big bad dehumanization from the sparkling, "ok" dehumanization in every decision the main cast makes.
I have said it before here but I have started to think that a core issue with TDP is that it treats a very complicated, sensitive and human topic as set dressing for a much broader and abstract story, and it is worse off for it.
I completely agree.also,I hate the fact that Kppar was doing self-eating, which is disturbing, but then just because he feels bad about it, he isn't gonna help Soren for his morality.Which is WORSE, cause that means when it's about keeping YOU alive, you'll use it. But when it's about keeping the cutest child in the world alive?! Ah, no... it... it's bad.
AGH!😤