Dumb bitch

She/her 25 NOT SPOILER FREE Anime, musicals and live action I feminize men

[queenofcringe]

omg billy and jennifer over laps i dont play withhhhh both r my baby girls 🎀 i haven’t watched obsession yet is it good?

Omg yes Billy and Jennifer the baby girls ever who didn’t deserve their fate 😭

I would highly recommend Obsession to anyone who hasn’t seen it yet! It’s the first scary movie to scare me in a while. Something about how the female lead acted gave me flayed vibes…

[queenofcringe]

whoes been pissing u off queen WHO DO I NEED TO BAT AWAY FOR DARING TO DISRESPECT THE QUEENS PRESENCE 😤🤺🤺🤺

OMG TY BBGIRL 🫪 It was some absolute chud who called Billy racist and said he couldn’t be a femme fatale as a man. LIKE BRU ON PRIDE MONTH? I use the word femme fatale interchangeably between genders and in my opinion Billy fits this trope. He is mysterious and seductive, luring woman into dangerous situations or using them for his own gain. This can be seen with both Karen and Heather. If you want I can make a post delving deeper into this but yeah. Imagine only experiencing life in the gender binary. Booooring

[queenofcringe]

Billy antis will be blocked btw!

[queenofcringe]

I love making oddly specific versions of these

[rigginsstreet]

Fem!billy

[queenofcringe]

The perfect woman

[tomatette]

The Billyvers are a 18+ discord server for everyone who is a friend of Billy Hargrove. It doesn't matter if or with whom you ship him - all Billy fans are welcome, as long as they know how to behave in fandom spaces.

We're pro-'ship and let ship' and anti-harassment.

To join, simply comment or send a direct message to OP. Reblogs of this post are appreciated <3

[harringrovesummerbingo]

It's Summer Bingo Time!!!

One-card-fits-all for HGB2026 :D

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[queenofcringe]

Hot life guard x ice cream boy is calling me

[teeteatess]

i love lumax but them 🥺

[queenofcringe]

I feel the same way 😭🙏

[dealtgod]

These scenes are a parallel that remind us of the effects of abuse and how, from Billy's perspective, he is reliving that abuse again and again, and he's specifically reliving it in this fight with Steve.

I'm breaking this down in two parts below the cut: 1) Clothing and Color Analysis and 2) Action and Location Parallels.

Before I get into that, I think it's helpful to recap on some of my previous posts related to the fight between Steve and Billy through the eyes of Billy and Max. There are more instances than just this scene whereby Billy and Max reveal how their actions are informed by the abuse going on in the Mayfield-Hargrove Home.

Recap:

I spoke before (read here) about the distinctive shift in conversation when Billy confronts Steve at the Byers' House and initially says: "Looking for my step-sister. Little birdie told me she was here" versus "My 13-year-old sister goes missing all day, and then I find her with you in a stranger's house, and you lie to me about it."

The implications of this shift in dialogue being a break of the loud persona Billy creates (read here) as his fear over Max's safety increases with Steve's repetitive lies. Remember, Billy just showed up at the Byers' house after being groomed and preyed upon by Karen, an adult woman, (read here, here, and here) and physically abused by his father. He's been abused in two different ways by adult figures that strip away his agency and control. And now, from Billy's perspective, Steve (who's 18) is lying repeatedly about not knowing Max despite the fact that she's there with him in a stranger's house. Billy's fear over Max being in a dubious situation after immediately being a victim of dubious situations himself triggers the crack in persona, revealing how he feels about the familial tie with Max (she is not just his step-sister, but in fact, his sister). In short: this is personal! Billy is taking this personally because Max is family. But it is also a crack in his own walls that reveal to Steve (though Steve doesn't pick it up at all) that he has experienced this abuse, too, in a read-between-the-lines fashion. Billy's frame of mind jumping to the worst case scenario occurs because he HAS been in the worst case scenario. People who experience trauma are more likely to jump to worst case scenarios as a trauma response. Billy is catastrophizing in that moment when he's talking to Steve.

I've also spoken about how Max responds to the fight between Billy and Steve by copying Neil exactly (read more here) and how her actions AND her speech patterns are, in fact, Neil's. Her choices here are reflective of how abuse affects everyone in the household. Max mimics Neil because his abuse (in all forms: mental, emotional, and physical) is the predominant example of control and power in the Mayfield-Hargrove home. I also make mention in that post that she copies Steve, too, particularly regarding grabbing the nail bat and standing in front of the kids as she witnessed Steve do earlier. It's all part of her response as a child growing up in an abusive household and grappling with what her household demonstrates (and what society demonstrates-- like Steve), which is: what is considered "feminine" is weak and what is considered "masculine" is strong.

Okay, now let's get into the clothing/color and action/location of the Billy and Steve fight versus the Neil and Billy's mom fight.

Clothing and Color Analysis

If you take a look at the fight between Billy and Steve (watch here) and the fight between Billy's Mom and Neil (watch here), the visuals are undeniable. Billy and his mother are paralleled with each other. They are wearing similar outfits in both color and style (red shirt, buttoned lowly, and jeans).

Even the tiniest details here are the same. Take a look at Billy's mother. She's wearing a classic 1970s polo shirt. These polo shirts have a low v-neck that can be buttoned, generally with 2 or 3 buttons. If you look at the gif (slowed down for viewing purposes), you'll see that Billy's mom only buttons one singular button: the bottom most button.

Who does that sound like? Billy Hargrove, who only buttons one singular button on his red shirt: the bottom most button.

Now, look at Billy's shirt. At first glance, I did initially think that Billy was wearing a woman's shirt because of the button placement. Typically, men's shirts have buttons on the right side and women's shirts have buttons on the left side. You'll see that Billy's shirt has buttons on the left side of his shirt. But his buttons are the snap-on buttons, and upon further digging, men's 1980s shirts with button snaps generally do have the buttons on the left side with the snap closure on the right side. But if you're just the casual viewer who is watching these scenes without hyper-focus, you get this subconscious and brief nod to feminine-presenting clothing based on button placement. Even if the shirt Billy is wearing is not actually a woman's shirt, the fact that it carries a hint of a suggestion until examining further speaks a lot (to me) about Billy and his gender non-conformity in style and dress, which is another post I have in the works for another day.

I would also not discount the similarities in their hair in this, as well* (curly, shoulder-length, blonde).

*If you're interested in Billy's hair read Part 1 of Billy's Haircare here, Part 2 of Billy's Haircare here, and read about his haircare products here.

The implications of Billy mirroring his mother are manifold: Billy dressing similarly to his mom runs in a similar vein to my earlier discussions of Max dressing like men and Max's own gender nonconformity. They're observing the people in their lives who they want to emulate and be like, and their decisions are highly informed by abuse. In Max's case, it is because she wants to be strong. In Billy's case, it's because he doesn't want to be like Neil. I also think there's more there with Billy regarding his own gender expression/fluidity and sexuality (specifically that Billy is gay), which, again, as mentioned above, is another post for another day.

The other point I want to make about their clothing choice is color. Red. Symbolically, red is an antagonistic color. It symbolizes power, agitation, anger, rage, danger, warning, dominance, and sexual implications of desire and passion. Red also symbolizes death, blood, and sacrifice. And it is interesting to me that Billy and his mother, both victims of abuse, wear red here. Billy, who, as I mentioned before, has no control over his life despite the false projection of control he gives, is wearing a shirt that symbolizes power in a situation where, again, has no control as he falls into a memory relapse of past abuse. Billy's mother, who, in the memories, has no control over the violence she endures over her husband. And yet, both Billy and Billy's mom fight back (more on that below). They are both attempting to gain control over their lives and situations-- both projecting an image of power in powerless situations of abuse they face throughout their lives.

The other color symbolism I want to bring out is blood and sacrifice. Blood, of course, in that both Billy and his mother are going to get hit. They're going to be in a fight. They're going to get hurt. The sacrifice symbolism is more nuanced and will be in the action parallels below. Hold that thought.

The final color symbolism I want to bring out is the sexualization symbolism. I speak regularly about how Billy is sexualized all the time across the teens and adults. I also make mention here that it doesn't matter WHAT Billy chooses to wear, or how he chooses to express himself. The response from others is (overwhelmingly) to sexualize him. It's happening here with this outfit, too. And that runs parallel with Neil calling Billy's mom a "whore" in this scene.

Finally, while it is less exact, I do think it's also worthy to point out that Neil and Steve both wear unbuttoned jackets and shirts. They aren't the same visually, but the style is close enough for someone like Billy, who's ultimately going to regress into past memories, would not differentiate.

Which brings me to...

Action & Location Parallels

Nothing about these two scenes being parallels of each other is a coincidence. The violence Neil inflicts onto Billy's mother occurs in the kitchen. The violence/fight between Steve and Billy begins in the kitchen of the Byers' Home. A young Billy watches the fight between Neil and Billy's mom. Max and the other younger kids watch the fight between Billy and Steve. Billy's mom tries to defend herself and her young son against Neil. Billy, in his view (as I explained at the beginning of this post and in depth here), believes he is protecting Max from Steve in what Billy believes is a dubious situation.

We, as the viewers, know the context as to what's going on at the Byers' home. Billy does not. Billy still doesn't know what's going on at the Byers' home (or anything at all related to the interdimensional monster thing) at the conclusion of this fight OR even in S3. As a result, Billy can only act on what he's gathering from the situation, and he sees it as a dubious one. He's acting on fear in two ways: fear for Max and fear for himself (remember, Neil beat Billy and told him to go find Max. It is reasonable for us to conclude that Billy is fearing that if he doesn't bring Max back, he's going to get hurt more).

Steve throws the first punch (gif above).

Now, I'll quickly summarize the in-between moments until we get to the plate: Billy, who's strung up with fear and anxiety over the abuse he's faced, now gets a bit of that unleashed when Steve reacts in a way that Billy comes to expect from people: violence. This is something he can answer to, and he does. He explicitly comes out and states how he's been waiting for some kind of reaction from Steve: "Looks like you've got some fire in you after all, huh? I've been waiting to meet this king Steve everyone's been telling me so much about." Steve answers with the homoerotic touch, which makes Billy freeze for a couple seconds. Why? Because Billy has never known that touch can be gentle. Steve also adds onto that touch by telling Billy to "Get Out" with the implication that Billy can't leave with Max, his sister. Steve thinks this is protecting Max. Billy thinks this is Steve keeping Max in a dubious situation. Billy is not having that. He's not leaving without his sister.

And yet, just like I mentioned before when Billy and Steve first talk outside the Byers' home and Billy gives Steve multiple chances not to lie about not knowing Max, Billy gives Steve another test. Billy throws a swing without the intention of making a hit (if he wanted to hit Steve in that moment, Billy would have) to see what reaction he can get out of Steve, which again, is all Billy's been trying to get from Steve since they met. But now, it's heavier. There's something else more dire about this. Billy wants to see how far Steve is going to go to keep Max (i.e. read this from Billy's catastrophizing mind from the abuse he's faced by adults: Billy wants to see how deep Steve is in with Max). Steve answers by landing three punches that Billy takes without resistance until he's back up into a corner: the kitchen counter.

That's what Billy perceives as his answer. This is bad.

And that's when Billy reaches out for something, anything, and grabs the plate. When he has no where else to go-- when he's backed into a corner-- Billy finally responds. He's reaching for the closest thing to defend himself, just like his mother reached for the closest thing to defend herself. At this point when he's backed into a corner having taken hit after hit from Steve and after having been sexually preyed upon by Karen, hit by Neil, and afraid for Max, he's clocked out. He's not there. He's resolving this in the one way he knows how to resolve this: a fight. He is in survival mode. He is in defense mode. He's in protection mode. He is reliving his mother's abuse and the fact that she could not protect herself or Billy against her abuser. Billy doesn't see Steve here. He sees Neil. And what's worse? Max is here. He's not going to let what happened with his mother and Neil all those years ago repeat now with Max or himself. And so what happens? Billy throws the plate at Steve to keep him away from Max and himself. Just like Billy's mom throws the plate to keep Neil away from her and her son.

[queenofcringe]

Beautiful work op

[queenofcringe]

God hes so pathetic need him round with my children

[rigginsstreet]

Billy in a pair of jeans that have slashes right below the butt cheeks. Send tweet

[queenofcringe]

Billy getting fucked in a pair of jeans that have slashes right below the butt cheeks send tweet

[queenofcringe]

All the pills that you take

Violet, blue, green, red to keep me

At arm's length don't work

But I just find my way back in

Violet, blue, green, red to keep me out

I win

There's things I wanna say to you

But I'll just let you live

Like if you hold me without hurting me

You'll be the first who ever did

Cinnamon girl x Cali siblings

[teeteatess]

[rigginsstreet]

bill kidnapping dacre? i mean the fic literally writes itself haha.

FINALLY dacre plays a character people will have no choice but to see as submissive and breedable (all his characters are but no one ever sees the vision...) which is the true takeaway from this film i think

[queenofcringe]

Something about Dacre is so impregnable idk man

[cloversdreams]

hes so cute and im feeling extra aggressive about it !!!!

[queenofcringe]

My boy wife

[queenofcringe]

My fan casting for female Billy Hargrove

[queenofcringe]

The cali siblings as loss.jpg