Gerda Lerner (1920-2013) , former Robinson Edwards Professor Emerita of History at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
Gerda Lerner (1920-2013) Women and History (excerpt) -- A Thinking Allowed DVD w/ Jeffrey Mishlove

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Gerda Lerner (1920-2013) , former Robinson Edwards Professor Emerita of History at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
Gerda Lerner (1920-2013) Women and History (excerpt) -- A Thinking Allowed DVD w/ Jeffrey Mishlove
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love that people are still liking this post in 2023 lol
when i see older butch lesbians in public im thinking Thanks for existing
older butch lesbians deserve a veterans discount
Sometimes it blows my mind that there are people that donāt wear glasses/contacts. Like they can literally see with no aid. Like they wake up and just be out here seeing. What a wild concept.
And people say stuff like ālol donāt you hate it when you look up in the middle of the night and see a spider on your ceilingā like bitch (!!) i could have Nicholas II last czar of Russia hangin from my ceiling fan and i would be none the wiser
hate when nonbinary people are likeĀ āim nonbinary cause i just feel like a human i dont identify with gender im just a human living in this bodyā as if thats not how everyone feels likeā¦ā¦.congrats you are human who doesnt identify with gender roles. how special and different of you. you are so right. women dont feel like human beings they are just a set of stereotypes and they LOVE itĀ
This is what broke the delusion down for me. A few years ago I was confused, wondering why I have never āfelt like a womanā and why I just felt like a person with a body that happened to be female.
I asked my female friends what being a woman felt like, and nobody could answer me - they didnāt know either.
Then I took it to Google and found the āanswerā to what the coveted feeling of Womanā¢ļø was. The answer came from various TIMs.
The feeling of woman was playing with Barbies as a child and enjoying it, playing with easy bake ovens, or loving how a dress feels. Woman is how you feel after you are plowed by a rough male and you feel coyly submissive. Woman is the ecstacy of wearing high heels or painting your entire face or doing your nails.
It was stereotypical, dehumanizing garbage that made me realize woman isnāt a feeling, that woman just is.
Iām reading this book and the main character was like describing her nemesis or whatever and sheās like āheās a white cishet manā in his list of negative attributes and I understand itās supposed to be a quippy lil thing and all but the irony is that the main character herself is white and cishet, as is her love interest. So what did we gain here? A few woke points? Like I donāt really understand it tbh woke white folk creating distance between them and other white folk simply doesnāt do it for me the irony is a bit strong
my professor spent our entire seminar whining about how thereās too many girls in our group and not enough boys. he was like āiām not saying women canāt be good surgeons but we need more menā no, we donāt. men suck. deal with it.
CRY ALL YOU FUCKING WANT YOUR TEARS DONāT MEAN SHIT TO ME. YOUR TEARS MEAN DICK TO ME JUST SO YOU KNOW
Okay so not to be that person who adds on to a post with their own story but my mom is a doctor and when I was eleven she took me to these all-female seminar led by a woman who was the head of a hospital because my mom is an empowered and independent woman who wanted her daughter to be the same way and so thereās like thirty females surgeons in the room, all sitting around his huge circlular confrenece table and talking about their experiences in becoming surgeons
most of them were like āeveryone told me I should become a nurse or a pediatricianā and āpeople assume that I donāt know what Iām doingā you know, your average sexist bs
one of the womenās last name was starboard (yeah I know great name) and she was talking about how even though now she was one of the most accomplished surgeons at the hospital, the male scrub techs (read: guys who didnāt go to fucking medical school) and some of the male doctors call her starbitch in the OR because they (scrub techs mostly, strangely enough) try to suggest different ways to care for the patient and she always tells them no you didnāt go to med school and I did and so they would go out of their way to get the male doctors to treat the patient differently and then she would have to argue with him to prove what she was doing es right but sometimes the male doctor would come and take over the case anyway and this went on for a while
but then the hospital statistics changed bc this woman was literally being prevented from treating her patients bc the men were interfering and so the administrative head heard about this (she was female) and she was like yāall better stop or yāall better start looking for new jobs and then starboard was allowed to work on her patients and got the scrub techs replaced and all of the sudden, the patients were suddenly doing much better during and after surgery.
when she told this story she was like āpeople still call me a bitch, and maybe I am because I wonāt let them walk all over me, but when youāve got something to do, when youāve got a life to save, you have to ignore their bullshit so that you can save someoneās fuckin life. Sexism should never stop you from accomplishing thatā
and little eleven-year-old me still remembers that bc I was insecure and awkward and here was this woman who just did what she had to do and ignored all the people trying to stop here and she really was better than all the male doctors (like her patient stats were better) and I thought I should share with you this inspiring woman with the cool last name
Arielle Scarcella and The Right Wing Lesbian Trend
Full disclosure; I am a white lesbian and this is coming from a place of privilege in that regard, but this is coming from me seeing a disturbing, but small, pattern of lesbians choosing to align themselves with the right, and Iām using Arielle as a ābaseā, similar to Gabe from How to Radicalize a Normie by Noncompete from BreadTube. While NC and I have a great divide in some of our politics I find his social analysis using Gabe to be useful and will be using Arielle as an example. Also please keep in mind that when Iām talking about the right I donāt only mean republicans since some are siding with transgenderism, Iām also referring to incels and the like. I think a lot of this is dependent on internet culture.
Hereās a link to the video: https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g
While I know Scarcella is a real person, I think my point still stands as she was what I would think to be the average normie lesbian. And I have the unique perspective of being an old fan of hers, starting back when I was 15 and starting to accept that I love women. I looked up ālesbianā in the search bar on youtube, and her channel was one of the first that popped up.
When I first found Arielleās channel, she was an average beachy lesbian who liked to party and had the normal dating problems we all have. She made silly videos about being a lesbian as well as dating and life advice to younger lesbians and educational videos on sex and vaginal health. She would collab with straight and bi women as well as gay men, and seemed to be an overall friendly woman who was staunch in her morals.
After the Trans movement started to pick up steam, Arielle did her best to reach out to them too, featuring many trans men and women and letting them talk about their experiences and struggles. But, when trans children came on and the cotton ceiling came out, you can see her pulling away and looking uncomfortable in her videos, and she tried to have other trans women come on to defend homosexuals. She criticized the trans community and the way they defined gender in the smallest of ways possible and she received nothing but hate and vitriol. She did a video with Jaclynn Glenn where they about their confusion and disagreement with non-binary identities specifically and got cancelled. Glenn, the straight girl, just needed to apologize and say she would learn better to get back into the transā good graces, but Arielle was still hated despite continuous self flagellation and many many many videos on transgenderism, to the point where it nearly suffocated her lesbian and woman centered content. But still, that wasnāt enough.
They continued to beat her down and repeatedly tell her she was not good enough, that she was evil for being homosexual. The same thing she was told all of her life for being gay. And this is very important.
As lesbians we understand just how pervasive and poisonous lesbophobia is. We all know that deep well of self hatred, loneliness, and grief. In HTRAN, NC brings up the concept of hidden radicalization, where the recruiters will hide in geek/fandom/online forums and make the vulnerable people there trust them. They lead with that and then slowly leak their influence until the recruitee falls in line with the radicalization. They purposely go after the lonely, the weak and the vulnerable. Those who feel useless and unwanted. Itās very similar to what cults do. And, as NC said in his video, when you feel that worthless and unlovable, the notion that you have inherent worth solely based on being white, the recruitee will tend to cling on to that notion as their only redeeming factor. So it becomes their personality.
I believe this is what happened to Arielle and what is happening to lesbians who are choosing to side with the right. The lesbian community is in shambles, and the lgbt community has done nothing but use as a punching bag, and now we canāt even not like dick or just state what a woman is. And, speaking from my own perspective, itās fucking exhausting. Everyone all around you, constantly telling you youāre unwanted, terrible, and wrong and the world seems like itās lost itās mind. Itās isolating and cold and scary. And I think the right have picked up on our plight, Iāve had some try to convince me that theyāre not homophobic! Only to learn they call me a dyke behind my back, or theyāll agree with the reality of womanhood being biological and want to protect womenās only spaces and try to use that to convince me that the left is rotten and all leftist politics are bad and that transgenderism and things like it is just the inevitable result. Theyāve seen how broken our community is and theyāre trying to exploit it.
You donāt just go from a left leaning normie to a right wing trump loving bootlicker. It happens because of hopeless, exploitation and white privilege.
Iām not sure what the solution is but this is becoming more and more of a problem everyday. Iāve seen lesbians talking about it on discord, in YouTube comments and Iāve seen it on the older lesbians in my hometown that I get glimpses of.
This is not to excuse these lesbians and the bile they spew, but to explain and start a conversation about this and hopefully, find a solution. We must build a strong community once again, call out the racists and bigots and protect the vulnerable.
Please add to this as you will and share your own thoughts; or ask me to clarify if any of what I said was confusing or if I got something wrong please correct me.
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I'm a little curious what you think an ideal future would be for transition and gender identity in general. I definitely think there's a lot of problems with GC people/radfems working with rightwing organizations that end up doing more harm than good, and I don't know what the best path forward is either, but do you think in an ideal future transition would even be a thing? like, it's important to make sure trans and detrans people have good healthcare, but is transition even viable longterm?
What does it mean for transition to be āviable longtermā? Viable for whom? For the people transitioning?
I know plenty of trans people who are content in their lives and choices; transition is viable for many people. To me, thereās no question about it. There are trans people living happy trans lives; itās not debatable to me when I see and talk to those people on a regular basis (even if from a distance, since Iāve dropped out of the various scenes I used to be in). When they say that transitioning helped them and is important to them, I believe them, even if itās hard for me to believe as someone who was harmed by transitioning, and even when they donāt believe me in return. As a result, I imagine that yes, transition would be a thing in an āideal futureā, whatever that is. Imagining a vague and contextless āideal futureā means nothing; if I were building a magical perfect world from scratch, there would be more pressing, systemic issues to focus on. Instead, I prefer to imagine how the current world, and the people currently living on it, would be best served over time. Imagining the trans people I actually know, living a happy and fulfilling life in the future as trans people, is straightforward and meaningful to me. Transitioning as a phenomenon is here to stay, part of reality, a possible path, part of the human experience for better or worse; itās up to the collective to allow it to be better.
My experiences as a detransitioner and all-around man-hating dyke do not negate any of that. Instead, Iām on the flip side of the coin that remains controversial to admit and address: transition isnāt viable for everyone, itās possible to get in really deep and realize that you arenāt content, and itās possible to be seriously harmed by medical transition, by the communities you were a part of, and by the misogynistic & homophobic rhetoric, stereotypes, & political ideologies you were subject to in some of those spaces. There is a lot to criticize, because things can and should be better. Detransition is still an elephant in the room that people try to discredit as a āmythā because they feel threatened by it, because addressing it means changing the status quo in some way... and, more and more, because right-wingers latch onto it to beat all of us over the head, when we all need to be working together. The Right has caught the Left with its pants down, and instead of pulling āem up (because that would mean acknowledging it), theyāre going full Emperorās New Clothes on reality. āWhy, no, my pants arenāt around my ankles. I canāt imagine why youād dare suggest such a thing! Thatās not even possible, for I am wearing a belt...ā
There are people for whom transition is viable, and people for whom itās not. People who were uplifted by transitioning, and people who were harmed and traumatized by transitioning. Iāve personally met many of each. There are large swaths of people in both of the above groups who have had damaging community & healthcare experiences. This needs to be fixed, and I donāt think it will happen if the collective focus is on preventing either group of people from existing, or on only serving one of the two groups and assuming the other will benefit from the same things by default. None of us are broken or crazy, and I believe in our ability to coexist, learn from one another, and make things better for everyone, although itās looking increasingly fraught.
Right now, on all sides, the kindest sentiment tends to be, āsome of those people are maybe real (and they deserve nothing more than pity), but itās largely a fake psy-op cult and theyāre out to get usā. Efforts made at bridging the rift get swept away in the flood of people using us and engaging in bad faith. Changing the overarching attitude could possibly turn the tide for the better, but I donāt know if any party will extend the courtesy that allows for change.
I donāt know whether weāll ever get there. The noise and antagonism makes it difficult. Deliberate, good-faith outreach and collaboration must be made (especially by trans organizations and healthcare providers, in my opinion), or we may never get there.
Libfems will see that a man murdered several Asian women, and according to the police he had some sort of āsexual addictionā, and still refuse to address the role of porn in the fetishization of Asian women. Because then theyād have to address how thereās a genre of porn to fetishize and degrade every type of woman, and how women of color ESPECIALLY are subjected to a sick mixture of racism and misogyny. And the whole woke pro-porn stance would fall apart.
An anti feminist woman is always the exception to her own rules.
She thinks a woman's place is in the home, but she can work a job because her family needs more money and she cannot be expected to just stay at home all day alone with her children.
She calls abortion a moral stain, but the abortion she had when she was young was the right choice because she wasn't ready for a baby.
She thinks the abused/battered/raped woman somehow asked for her trauma, but her own trauma was the act of an evil man, not the inaction of a woman.
She is a feminist to herself, but has not yet understood that the way she understands her own experience can be swiveled and applied to all.
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i wanna know whomst the fuck first came up with the horrible idea that women are oppressed because men donāt value femininity enough, like ⦠do you know what happens when women fail to perform femininity sufficiently for five minutes? men literally go into anaphylactic shock if they have to witness women being unfeminine. men have aneurysms and heart attacks if they see fat women, bare-faced women, ugly women who donāt give a fuck, loud women, powerful women, unapologetic women who take up space. a man probably got so offended just from reading the descriptions of unfeminine women in this post that heās in the hospital right now. men hate women and thatās why they value and demand femininity ā which is subservience ā 100% of the time
Iād like to add: feminity is not oppressed. Femininity is a tool for female oppression. To say that feminity is what is oppressed means that the solution to oppression would be act more feminine and to fight for the ability to be feminine, we donāt need that and that is exactly the narrative that is being pushed upon us now.
We need to break free of feminity because itās a means to oppress that. That means we stop shaving or wearing makeup and just exist in our natural state. That is what is going to help us. Being feminine is what got us here in the first place.
And men making fun of femininity doesnāt mean itās somehow oppressed, bc femininity is still the standard pushed upon women. It does mean, however, that men also acknowledge that femininity is degrading and they use it to degrade us.
i hope that "oomf" shit never catches on in this site. you're halfway through your tweet and it sounds like mario just walked into a buzzy beetle