Look what I captured!
You can literally heat his heart shattering :) mine too if you listen closer
You can also hear my heart shattering, actually
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@ragingdumpsterfiremess
Look what I captured!
You can literally heat his heart shattering :) mine too if you listen closer
You can also hear my heart shattering, actually
Everyone stop fucking scrolling and look at him
Thank you, you may continue
Reblog if Roman is still your hero.
Roman was defending Patton the whole time and then Patton (after Janus compared him to Remus) just ignored/ looked away from him.
Oof.
Can we just talk about this for one fucking second, please???
like, the shake of his voice, the disbelieving scoff--I just can't wjhshsjshsjsn
Roman Stans: we CRAVE roman angst, no, infact, we T H I R S T
Redux: :)
Roman Stans:
THE SONG WAS SO GOOD I CAN'T STOP WATCHING IT AND THE ARTSTYLE IS SO PRETTY GAIBEOWKSOJR
I have forgotten to say this but
Props to Thomas's acting, again, for naming me forget for the billionth time in my life that the sides aren't all different people and he's playing all of them for real.
Cause wow
Do you have a theory on whats going on with Roman to make him almost snap??
I have some thoughts: He is Thomasās ego, he was literally bruised in an episode. I think he is afraid that he is unable to help Thomas, to be the hero he thinks he needs to be. He also in the span of this episode was basically told that his selfless act of leaving Thomasās dreams behind to go to the wedding was basically pointless because ultimately they should have talked to Lee and Mary-Lee which he was obviously upset that they didnāt because he sounded very bitter when he brought it up that the idea was shut down. Now Thomas is listening to Deceit, a villain in his eyes, and he is supposed to be a hero, someone who fihts the villains! On top of that, Deceit compares him to Remus, the very person he never wants to be because Remus is everything Thomas despises.Ā
Thereās a LOT happening with Roman right now, a lot of internal struggles. He already has canonical self esteem issues and has been bringing up the fact that heās worried he might not be useful or needed. Way back he talked about how maybe Thomas has no need for princes or heroes and now here he is much later definitely feeling the same way? And through the wholeĀ āargumentāĀ ādiscussionā thing, he was trying VERY hard to phrase things nicely. He literally sugar coated his nicknames if you go back and listen he stops himself from saying a thing is stupid so when it slips out and he makes fun of Janusās name? When his careful work trying to do good slips and heās called as bad as or worse than Remus, of course he;s upset.Ā
There was a LOT at stake in not going to the callback. Roman gave up something that it is his job and in his core functions to do and gave it up in the hopes thatĀ ādoing the right thing for othersā would make them feel better.Ā
And then even though Thomas says how he was feeling was one of the dumbest things he has ever said, Roman still came to the conclusion that all of this is his fault. Thereās a guilt inside him thatās really really deep and I donāt know if this is something thatās Pattonās fault. I think itās because Roman is part of the Ego. As someone who gives and gives and has trouble taking for myself, you get this idea into your head that your own desires are less valuableĀ than other peopleās wants. That⦠your own dreams are second. Romanās self-esteem issues I think tie into this. He wants to be needed, craves to be heard and listened to and Thomasās dreams followed and desires met.Ā
But how often has he backed down? Like all the freaking time. Heās constantly TRYING to compromise for Logan and Virgil and Thomas and Patton. The one time he tries to express his desires, they shoot him down and Thomas admits he is a liar and that this decision to want his desires are WRONG.Ā
But even more so he was praised for this choice. Not only did Patton think he made the right decision but Thomas did too and Roman accepted and intuited that his self-sacrifice of his very functions was not only good but necessary. Deceit literally told him it was the bravest most selfless thing he;s ever seen but that this action was wrong.Ā
He must be so conflicted, so confused as to what heās supposed to do, who he;s supposed to be, why he does and thinks what he does and now on top of it heās told heās indistinguishable from the evil twin? The one person thatās literally everything he doesnāt want to be? What a slap in the face especially because he IS trying.Ā
Iām so worried about Roman, so so worried about whatās going on in his head. Patton used to hide how he feels (and he;s afraid to open up but he;s trying) but Roman buries it, scoops it all under the rug and tries to move on, tries to compromise, tries to give give give give and what the heck is he getting in return? Right now it feels like a whole lotta nothing and I WANT HIM TO BE OK.Ā
Someone go help him, go tell him he;s needed and that his contributions are valued and his wants are important dammit!Ā
Ok Iāll get off my soap box.
I think⦠we need Virgil to help him go through his thoughts. Virgil had similar fears of not being listened to or seen as important. I think heād do a good jobā¦
^^^^^ yes I agree. Roman is quick to self-blame. If anyone would duck out like Virgil did itās Roman. I sincerely hope he doesnāt but itās definitely a possibility that he could with how things are going and I think of all of them Virgil knows what itās like to feel like that.Ā
I am still not over what happened
im really not
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If one more person tries to say that Patton was purposely being an asshole in the episode Iām gonna have words on here. Like a whole ass analogy post
Patton is REALLY trying his best and like all of the others heās learning and he knows he doesnāt have all the answers and like all the others he needs to grow and heās trying! To be! What Thomas! Wants him to be!
The closest thing we have to any side purposely being mean
Is Roman making fun of Janusās name.Ā
Iām putting out there in the open: I genuinely donāt think Janusā nod after Thomas told Roman he was still his hero was Janus confirming it as a lie, I think he was agreeing with Thomas or even verifying it as truth. Roman misunderstood because heās still stuck in the mindset that Janus only tells lies (and that he believes he isnāt a hero, so he automatically falls onto the belief that Janus is saying just that).
I think the same! I think Roman genuinely doesn't believe that Janus would tell him the truth about that. I mean, look at how shocked/hurt he was after that:
and then Janusās reaction to that (and everyone elseās)
I donāt think Janus was expecting that. He wanted to reassureĀ Roman, but Roman is so caught up in the belief that listening to Janus will make him no more than a villain. Deceit DOESNāT always speak in lies.Ā
But Roman clearly doesnāt believe that.
I definitely agree! I noticed how Roman also looked to Thomas after he saidĀ āyou are,ā then immediately looked at Janus -- how must it look to him, seeing Thomas facing him with DeceitĀ by his side, now accepted? Remember Roman was also the slowest to accept Virgil -- thereās precedent for Roman pushing back against theĀ āDark Sides,ā and he even came up with the name!
I think Romanās distrust of Janus has been built with every appearance of Janus so far -- from CLBG, when he felt ashamed to have beenĀ ādoing Deceitās bidding,ā to SvS part 1, where Janus spent a lot of it flattering Roman and swaying him to his own side. We all saw that as Roceit flirting (and I mean.....valid, i love Roceit), but looking at one of Janusās lines earlier in the episode, I think he was being intentionally manipulative, and I personally didnāt notice until this confession.Ā
When Janus tells Roman he made a noble choice, Roman saysĀ ādonāt flatter me, snake.ā
Janus responds,Ā āI donāt needĀ to flatter you now, Roman.ā
And Romanās reaction:
I believe that heās just realized how much Janus manipulated him in the courtroom, how this whole time heās been eating out of the palm of his hand, playing right into his (as Roman believes) evil plans. I think that after this realization of how much heās been manipulated, at how much Janus has truly played into Romanās weaknesses to make himself heard, that Roman is going to have a very hard time trusting him in any capacity.Ā
my poor boy
Things i'm freaking out about in the New episode
JANUS SANDERS!!!!!!!!
Oh my god is Janus getting to be a part of the main cast?-
HE IS
WOOHOO
ROMAN NO PLEASE
AAA NO MY CHILD
Please someone take care of him- please-
OH MY GOD DE AND PATTON I LOVE YOU BOTH
(Good god it's gonna take me ages to start constantly call Deceit 'Janus')
Wait what about Roman?
Guys what about roman?
YOU'RE JUST GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT?!?! WHAT ABOUT MY BOY-
Was roman horrible to deceit (Janus!!) this episode? Yes
Should we ignore that? No
But also please consider, just like Patton has had trouble separating his job as morality from Thomasā own wants roman also has to have that conflict between himself which we see more in this episode
Romanās entire ābeingā is summarised by being chivalrous, heroic and brave- traits which he had been accused of not having in the previous selfishness v selflessness and heās constantly been told that Janus is the villain, in fact he has even been belittled for believing Janus far too easily but Janus, Janus who has lied and manipulated gets accepted into the group by Patton whilst roman and his wants are once again dismissed out of hand
Itās understandable he lashes out, understandable that he doesnāt understand why heās suddenly the bad guy for being the hero like Thomas had seen him as the last time
Roman defeats evil, heās a prince, and he is then told that everything about him is a lie, his entire existence pulled out from beneath him
Was he cruel? Yes
Should we hate him for it? I donāt think so
as a Roman stan, it really hurts seeing all non-Roman stans absolutely shit on Princey. Like yeah, I know what he did was awful but amidst all his confusion and frustration on the topic, he wasnāt in the most optimal mental and emotional state to not fall into old or defensive habits (but you can see that heās trying to fix those bad habits, it just takes him a little bit more conscious brain power).
I think Roman tries and pushes so hard to ābe the heroā and to do āgoodā because heās aware that he isnāt all the great and he thinks that that shouldnāt be the case. Heck, he even said that heās the one getting in the way (Thomasā desires) and that itās his fault Thomas is missing his ādo-gooderā drive (which by the way I know Thomas said that thats the most stupid (in a nice way!) thing Roman has said but we all know that isnāt enough for Roman to stop believing he isnāt at fault).
He tried so hard to understand the āwhysā and āhowsā of Thomasā morality and doing good. Keyword: heās trying, doing his absolute best to understand. Roman has a difficult time learning complex things and has an even more difficult time unlearning what heās always known, which is understandable. This doesnāt make him a bad person, it just means he needs more help and time understanding what to feel and what to do.
Roman is scared bc he was wrong about Virgil, and now he's wrong with Janus.
And he thinks that one of them; the other sides and Thomas (for trusting Janus) or him (for not trusting him bc he's 'evil'); must be insane.
And he's scared about this bc he doesn't want to be in the wrong, bc his whole being is made out of things Thomas chose to be acceptable.
Remus and him are literally what he thinks is good or bad, his whole reality is focused on this concept.
And If It's all a lie,
then who is Roman Sanders?
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