receipts on Riker Kin Man

[unholysails]

i am once again thinking about what canon garashir would've meant to people who's lives had been destroyed by the AIDs epidemic in the 90s. people that had it, people who had lost friends, family or partners to it. people who were struggling to understand homosexuality when a loved one left the closet or were perhaps struggling with being queer themselves. countless lives could have been touched by it, saved by it. all brought to a close because of one man.

however much you hate bick rerman, you can always hate him a little bit more.

[casualcryptid69]

RICK BERMAN WHEN I CATCH YOU

RICK BERMAN WHEN I CATCH YOU

RICK BERMAN WHEN I CATCH YOU

RICK BERMAN WHEN I CATCH YOU

[boophisburnhamae]

Quote from Brannon Braga saying that an "in-joke" between him and Rick Berman when they were developing Seven was that her name was originally going to be Perrin- short for Perineum.

Amendment to my earlier statement: we should kill both of these men with rocks

[boophisburnhamae]

Begging Star Trek to canonize Kirk's gay nephew

[boophisburnhamae]

For those unaware, during the production of TNG, Star Trek bought the rights to a script from David Gerrold called Blood and Fire, which focused on the Enterprise coming across a derelict ship whose crew had been infected with Regulan Blood Worms, a creature so deadly that according to regulations, any place found to contain them should be immediately sterilized and destroyed. This was supposed to be a metaphor for the public's fear of HIV/AIDS, and according to Wikipedia, Gerrold apparently later stated it was supposed to specifically represent the fears surrounding giving or receiving a blood donation, and the episode would have ended with a card with information on how to help the Red Cross. Famously however, the B plot was supposed to include a gay couple on the Enterprise, which would have been Star Trek's first gay couple.

Despite buying the rights to the script, members of the production staff, namely Rick Berman, worried that it would be too controversial and never produced the episode. It would eventually have three adaptations though. The most well known, after UPN's parent company decided they wanted to do an AIDS Awareness week and mandated that all of their shows have a very special episode, the Star Trek Enterprise crew drug up the script and very, very loosely adapted it into 2x14 Stigma. Gerrold would also go on to adapt the story into his original novel series, Star Wolf.

Relevant to this post however, is the fan made series Star Trek: Phase II, later renamed New Voyages, which is supposed to be the later years of Kirk and crew's five year mission. They received permission from Gerrold and adapted it into their fourth and fifth episodes, Blood and Fire Parts 1 & 2. This is by all accounts a much more faithful adaptation of the original script than Stigma. And one half of the gay couple present here is Peter Kirk, Sam's son and one of the survivors from the tos episode Operation: Annihilate!, who has since joined Starfleet and found a position on the Enterprise. Episode is also notable for featuring Denise Crosby playing one of Tasha's ancestors.

You can find both episodes here. Warning, they are extremely cheesy

[boophisburnhamae]

Correction, according to The Fifty Year Mission, it was Leonard Maizlish that killed the original script, not Berman

[vanvelding]

[croix-meridies]

Berman: we cast beautiful young ladies and we don’t want the alien prosthetics to cover up what we are paying them for

Also Berman: bring out The Wig™

[fuckyeahalexandersiddig]

[ettaberrytea]

id: Alexander Siddig on a stage. He is wearing a flowing, white cloak and in the middle of swordplay. end id.

[psikonauti]

Cornelius Völker (German, b. 1965)

Meerschweinchen, 2003

Oil on canvas

[tuttle-did-it]

We all love Voyager, but what is your biggest irritation with the show? (here be spoilers for a 29 year old show)

the stupid Bun of Steel and corsets that drove Kate Mulgrew crazy

The uneducated racism and cultural appropriation*

Jeri Ryan in a catsuit when she looks amazing in a t-shirt and jeans**

Singing. Why is there so much singing? Make it stop.

Resetting every week with a pristine ship, enough shuttles & torpedoes***

Bringing back Kes as a villain

Seska and Pregnancy storyline

Maquis and Federation get along within 2 episodes, very little drama after

Characters with no personality (Chakotay, Tuvok, Kim especially)****

Kazons and their stupid hair of kale

Abrupt ending to Earth without seeing the fall-out of their return *****

Rick Berman and his homophobic, sexist, racist attitudes ******

Voting ended onMay 12, 2024

I'll be honest, this is actually a tough call for me, personally. I like Voyager enough-- mainly because I am convinced Kate Mulgrew decided to play Janeway as if Katharine Hepburn was a space captain, and honestly that is why I watched. I prefer DS9, but Voyager is probably my second favourite legacy show primarily for Kate Mulgrew. But Voyager was a frustrating show for me, as sometimes it would be great, and other times, not so much.

*Chakotay and B'Elanna in particular, but Kim to a lesser extent. Chakotay- to be fair, they did hire someone who was supposedly an expert on Native cultures, but he was a complete hack and made everything up. They should have just hired someone who was Native American or First Nations. I guess they tried to have some representation? kinda? B'Elanna - falling into the awful trap that women of colour on television are often shown as too angry, aggressive, violent, etc. They did the same thing to Raffi in That Show I Hate. It's unnecessary, and they deserve better.

**The stupid foam boobs, the corset, heels and the catsuit, actually. Jeri Ryan looks incredible in t-shirt and jeans, none of that was necessary. Also, not even giving Seven her own quarters. She sleeps in the cargo bay. For years. Come on.

***Very little is permanent -- the ship gets blown to hell, reset, everything's fine. Character goes through a life-changing event, reset, it's as if it never happened. They should have long run out of shuttles and torpedoes, but it resets every week.

****Also not acknowledging the rest of the crew and not utilising them better-- for example, Lon Suder, played by Brad Dourif -- should have been a year-long story arc, not 3 episodes.

*****They've been fine together on the ship for 7 years, but when they get home, their lovers will have all moved on, and Starfleet will not be happy to see half a crew of Maquis (people they consider terrorists), an EMH who has been treated as a person but the Federation has turned the rest of the EMHs into slaves with rights, two fucking Borg who have had free run of the ship, a prisoner who was granted temporary leave from the prison and never returned, and (when they read all of the logs, they will discover) a LOT of cases where they blew the Prime directive because Janeway felt like it, a LOT of cases where Janeway tried to blow up her ship, and Janeway literally drove a Time Agent to madness with all her temporal indiscretions.

****** Rick Berman primarily, but also a bit of Brannon Braga. But mostly Rick Berman.

[tuttle-did-it]

reblogging for more reach.

[athelind]

**** This is why, the next time we see Janeway, she's an admiral. "Kick her upstairs to a desk job! She can do less damage that way!"

We'll see how well that works when S2 of Prodigy finally drops ...

[tuttle-did-it]

The resetting in general is a huge frustration to me. There's very little continuity, character growth, very little permanence of anything. The respawning (I like your word) of shuttles and photon torpedoes were just one of the signifiers of this constant reset every week. For example, they said earlier that they had 38 photon torpedoes and they have no way to replace them when they're gone. But they probably use a hundred photon torpedoes throughout the show.

This is something I appreciated Robbie ranting about when the Delta Flyers did their rewatch of Voyager. Every episode that used photon torpedoes, he'd remind everyone that they had no torpedoes left.

But it was like that with everything. I'm shocked they even remembered they removed one of Neelix's lungs in a later episode.

[labrat226]

Rick Berman (>>>Brannon Braga) is behind most of these, which is why I chose that option. The issues with Janeway, Torres, Seven, Kes, & Seska? Sexism. The issues with minorities and a lack of personalities? Xenophobia & racism. Resetting? That was just what was done with tv episodes in the 1990s. And not letting the viewers see the fallout from returning to Earth? Probably just cost cutting. But yeah, Berman.

Also, singing is fun! I'm okay with that one 😂

[isagrimorie]

Rick Berman. Everything stems from Rick Berman. The writers wanted to swing for the fences but because it was a network show and Berman was butt hurt that Ira Stephen Behr successfully fought him and won.

Berman turned around and really put the squeeze on Voyager’s writer’s room, and made sure Voyager was nothing like DS9.

Berman also proceeded to block any advancement Garret Wang could have had, especially directing, when he allowed other Trek actors a step through the door. Jonathan Frakes, LeVar Burton, Robert McNeill, Roxann Dawson, Tim Russ, and Robert Picardo.

And, of course, it’s well known how sexist he was. Considering how Seven of Nine was first conceptualized, it’s amazing how much better Seven came to be and it’s a testament to Jeri Ryan.

(Also, the singing is actually great and I wish they had a full blown musical as well! The weirder Voyager got in plot, the better it was to be honest.)

It also didn’t bother me they had torpedoes, Voyager is a ship with a lot of science officers and Engineers. And, after they left Kazon space where there were more resources and how Delta Flyer was created, it’s obvious that they had enough resources to make more torpedoes. We always see Away teams looking for more resources to bring back to Voyager.

Could they have dropped a line or two, sure.

[clementine-kesh]

star trek much like alchemy must be in balance for every good thing we receive we must also receive an equally bad thing. for canon wlw seven we received the rest of st picard. for canon quick and easy medical transition we received profit and lace. i’m sure if they made spirk canon it would come at the cost of like, rick berman rising from the dead to usher in 1000 years of darkness

[clementine-kesh]

………… for now

[myenterpriseisparked]

I hope every January 29 Brannon Braga hides in his home as we parade the streets praising his monster.

[biomedbadass]

“Radical” Star Trek: Prodigy Praised By Legendary Voyager & Enterprise Producer

Producer Brannon Braga praises Star Trek: Prodigy.

[quirkette100]

Back off Braga with your grabby hands.

[bizships]

I’m bemused that they’re calling him “Legendary”. Yeah, no. You took a perfectly good show and ruined it.

You get no cookies.

Good day sir.

[clementine-kesh]

star trek much like alchemy must be in balance for every good thing we receive we must also receive an equally bad thing. for canon wlw seven we received the rest of st picard. for canon quick and easy medical transition we received profit and lace. i’m sure if they made spirk canon it would come at the cost of like, rick berman rising from the dead to usher in 1000 years of darkness

[clementine-kesh]

………… for now

[stevencharleston]

kira nerys did not have a lesbian haircut and kick everyone's ass on ds9 just for robert hewitt wolfe to say she "doesn't swing that way." don't worry major kira. i saw your lesbian haircut

[boophisburnhamae]

Was telling my friend about Enterprise's Unexpected (moreso about the rapey elements than the mpreg) and they said "God, who wrote that episode?" So I looked it up and surprising absolutely no one, Berman and Braga cowrote it

[trillscienceofficer-archive]

do not make me tap the sign

(the sign says "While Rick Berman is certainly responsible for much of the misogyny, racism and homophobia present in the Star Trek shows he was involved in it's silly to pretend he was responsible for all of it and that no one else in the productions had biases. Ultimately assuming anything was Berman's fault even in cases for which there are hints that others were in the wrong only manages to confuse the issue.")

[boophisburnhamae]

Say it with me everybody: "FUCK RICK BERMAN!"

[theabstruseone]