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i've been looking through the odyssey tag and i've seen a lot of people who enjoyed nolan's movie dunking on people who wanted actual effort and care to be put into the movie--to, yk, try their best to do the odyssey justice, to support actual greek culture and not show an americanized inaccurate absolute garbage mutation of it which doesnt even have any greeks in it, and i just want to say that it is laughable how we are in 2026 and these twats are still using the word "nerd" as an insult to people who just.........wanted the odyssey to look like the odyssey.
Hey so that was not Odysseus
ngl i think the thing that makes me the most upset about the odyssey movie is that the theme of the story doesnt make sense for the odyssey. because the odyssey is about letting go of hubris, its about surrendering yourself to the gods and realizing that you are nothing more when compared to them. thats why the whole thing that starts the odyssey is odysseus almost escaping polyphemus only to at the last minute practically shout his entire ip address and straight up dox himself. he wanted the glory but he didnt need it and that's how polyphemus gets his names and calls it out to posiedon for him to then torment odysseus. and when it comes to circe's island they spend a year there (im pretty sure, but its been a while since ive read the odyssey), they spend a year because odysseus assumes he has all the time in the world, only to then see his dead mother in the underworld and realize that thats not true. only furthering his desire to get to penelope and that makes him staying on calypso's island so tragic.
but the movie doesnt take these themes and thats fine on a surface level, but instead that make it a movie about the tragedy of war and honestly... THATS A GOOD THEME!!! but then why have the cyclops? circe kinda makes sense as in the movie she showed some kind of trauma, but then why have scylla? charibdys? (i spelled that wrong). the underworld makes sense but then why have him stuck on calypso's island? its only to show that this is a movie about the odyssey, but in my opinion the odyssey was the wrong movie to show this about.
instead they should've went with the iliad which is basically about the tragedy of war to a T. hell it ends with a funeral. its about how the war has gone on so long and has taken so many lives and how they're continuing it because if they don't then they've truly lost. i mean why do you think on of the biggest plot points in the epic is achilles giving hector's body back to priam? why do you think its patroclus dying, and like I said before later ending in hector's funeral? that's about the tragedy of war. not the odyssey.
it's a perfectly fine theme and its done in a mediocre way imo but it would've been better in the iliad. not the odyssey
Just a little reminder that after filming in Italy they left tons of plastic scenography pieces in the sea and only local news talked about it. Here's the link:
Macabre scoperte nei fondali di Lipari, alle Eolie: finti arti umani usati per girare il film sul ritorno di Ulisse a Itaca
The odyssey has been a fun reminder that this website has perhaps the highest concentration of greek mythology nerds on the internet because everyone on here seemingly wants nolan's head on a platter for the changes he made. totally different vibe versus film Twitter
The irony of the Odyssey production disrespecting their hosts in Italy...
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i don't know much about greek mythology, just your basic surface level knowledge from grazing through documentaries, references in pop culture etc. so i don't have much to go off of with the odyssey. that said, i've come onto tumblr to see a lot of discourse on it and i thought i would like to share my unbiased, outsider perspective. it kinda sucked. i'm not familiar with christopher nolan's work, the most i've seen from his filmography is interstellar (and that was an alright movie in my opinion), so i really had no expectations going in. i left feeling like i need to go read the entirety of homer's collected works. but not because the movie moved me, because i don't think the film did any of the source material justice....and i know diddly squat about it. the whole movie was simply blockbuster movie star after movie star, which very much took away from the enjoyment as none of them seemed to embody the characters the way the story needed them too. the premise of some plot was there, but emotional beats were missed continuously. it was jumping from scene to scene without lingering on moments that could've hit so hard. it felt like we were being rushed along to make a decent run time. overall i'd give it a 3/10. some shots were nice, robert pattinson did a good job and the character that stuck out the most to me (and the only one that i actually found myself invested in) was John Leguizamo as Eumaeus.
Homosexuality and Nolan’s Odyssey
I think I have made it crystal clear that I do not like this movie. At all. And one of my biggest gripes with it, is it’s refusal to even TRY to be historical accurate. With the armours looking like an edgy 13 year old’s definition of what counts as cool, the ship being from the viking era (nearly 2 millenia later), nearly everyone wearing pants despite in ancient greece pants being something only “barbarians” wore etc.
Like this movie was almost tailor made to piss me off specifically by getting nearly every historical fact about ancient Mycenaean and general greek culture wrong that you could possibly get wrong.
Except for one. Homosexuality.
Anyone who’s dabbled in greek history for more than 12 seconds has probably heard the joke “The Greeks invented sex. The Romans realised you could add women to it”, and while it is a bit exaggerated, it is based in truth. Homosexuality was pretty common in ancient greece BUT, it was also used as a way to assert dominance over other men, especially younger men and even boys.
So colour me amazed when, out of ALL the things from ancient greek history that Nolan did not manage to fuck up, it was the “weaponised homosexuality” as I’m gonna call it, by having Antinous (Robert Pattinson’s character) kinda flirt with Telemachus (Tom Holland’s character).
Now i have no idea how big the age difference is supposed to be between these characters in Nolan’s Odyssey specifically, but it is pretty obvious that Antinous is older and his pretty aggressive comments which many have interpreted as “flirting”, is him using homosexuality to assert dominance over Telemachus - which I repeat, is something that was common in ancient Greece, I am not denying that.
So what I am trying to essentially get at, is that Nolan ignored all of Greece’s actual history EXCEPT the one that portrays gay people as moral deviants (and like if you have read the Odyssey, you’d be well aware that there are many other reasons and ways you could have hammered home to the audience that Antinous and the suitors are bad people).
The best comparison I can think of to explain why this feels so weird to me is: imagine if Nolan made a movie about the mongol invasion and got nearly everything wrong about it that you could get wrong. Like he’d make the Mongol characters live in Tipis, ride genetically mutated goats, communicate exclusively via throat singing and wear denim jeans. But the ONE THING in regard to historical accuracy he’d kept in was the rampant sexual assaults women experienced at the hands of the Mongolian invaders.
No one would deny that it happened; it is a well documented and dark fact about history, yet you also get why it would feel weird to have THIS be the only accurate thing in the depiction of Mongolians. At the point it just feels kinda targeted and hateful.
ok so not adding Poseidon, Zeus, Hermes, or even king aeolus and just winging is legit a fever dream. I remember doing voice recordings back when Nolan's odyssey was first announced and I made like a 20-30 minute long yap session about how they definitely should NOT not include the Olympians.
Like, Poseidon’s whole thing is the fact he's avenging his son (among other things if I recall correctly) because Odysseus blinded him; which not only is a reason on why Odysseus and his crew stay on Circe's island for so long because Poseidon would just kill them, but also mirrors Odysseus' state as a father and wanting to meet his son while Poseidon is also a father who's trying to avenge and protect his son.
Also, the reason why Poseidon was shown to be so petty and harsh is because that's what the ocean was. It could be calm in one moment, and completely violent in the next. It's unpredictable, like Poseidon’s temper, and that fear of the ocean that the Greeks had trickled down onto Poseidon’s myths, like his role in the Odyssey.
Zeus coming up on Helios' island and killing Odysseus' crew isn't only a cruel punishment for them eating Helios' cows, but also symbolizes the punishment you'll recieve if you steal from a land that isn't even yours; they were guests at Helios' island, but they were still the ones that offended him and broke Xenia (the laws of hospitality).
Hermes helping Odysseus by giving him the moly in Aeaea is to represent his domain among travelers. The Greeks believed him to be kind (usually, though sometimes changes) to travelers, so of course, with Odysseus being a traveler at that point, he'd help his great grandson.
The gods aren't just there for some cool hijinks or to cause plot, but are present to symbolize traits and qualities of Greek culture. Poseidon being an unforgiving force of nature, Zeus representing the consequences of violating the laws of hospitality, Hermes being helpful to travelers because that's a part of his many domains. They represent things; and the people behind this movie, not just Nolan (though he is arguably and definitely the being hand in this) majorly agreeing to remove these qualities that make the Odyssey so individually Greek is just another sign that they misunderstood this movie in a fundamental level if they couldn't even understand what many of the starred gods were supposed to represent.
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fantastic. i love it. i posted this after my wife said it yesterday and as i was doing it i was like "this can't be an original thought. as soon as i hit post someone's going to say 'you stole this from a tweet from 2014' and i'll say 'no, i stole it from my beautiful wife.'"
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i kin izutsumi mainly because of her need to be understood and taken seriously along with independence. i don’t really see people talk about her like this as many people in the fandom just water her down to a cute silly catgirl and that is the absolute opposite of what izutsumi would want to be seen as. and i get it, as a person who constantly feels like they are not being taken seriously because of my appearance (like my height and strength and such) i can understand why she desperately wanted so bad to break the curse of her being a beast man.
this panel also speaks to me. throughout the story she wanted to be solitary yet her final decision was to stay with the party and fend for herself afterward. i think it was her getting a taste of what it feels like to genuinely be cared for that drove her to consider a more down-to-earth approach to living. and i get it.
it wont be too long until i find a job and eventually move out, and the sense of being free yet still being bound to responsibility has made me reflect a liittle. i interpreted it like this: while it is important for life to be experienced to the fullest, it is just as important to care for yourself so you can live life to the fullest
I honestly think Gen-Z and younger simply does not understand how recent widespread smartphone adoption is.
I am not that old, and I didn't have a smartphone until probably late high school. For most of my life, many if not most people were not walking around with a magic internet machine in their pocket that they pulled out and used constantly for everything.
reblog if you remember having to ration your text messages and accidentally opening the internet on your phone was the end of the world
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