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[saturnnm]

twp

ok, so I have a theory about in twp a lightwood is gonna die and it is probably gonna be Isabelle... because in every other book, we always lose a lightwood and she is most likely to die. And also maybe another blackthorn...

[herongrystrs]

Tag yourself! The Last Hours edition

[saturnnm]

I just cannot believe that I'm a mixture of grace and Thomas???

[frump14]

We are NOT shipping Matthew and Grace, guys, we are NOT.

[saturnnm]

WHO THE FUCK IS SHIPPING THEM

[saturnnm]

after watching shadowhunters series, you just can not listen war of hearts like before, can you?

[kotwkawie]

I liked this book. i really did. but i’m not gonna pretned it didn’t have some major problems.

So here’s some of my suggestions on how to fix some of them. feel free to add your own!

1) drop the love triangle. no one asked for it. this series did not need a love triangle. and the fact that it dragged for over 300 pages? and for what?

maybe have james tell matthew and cordelia about the bracelet IN PARIS, but ask them not to tell anyone else because he’s not ready for that yet.

and things can still be awkward between them when they come back because james will feel guilty for ruining their trip, cordelia will feel guilty for thinking james would ever cheat and matthew would feel guilty because he saw that something was wrong but never said anything.

have the herondaisy confession happen before the christmas party so matthew would still be pushed to drink (because he sees how happy they are but he’s still in love with cordelia) and boom! so many annoying scenes are gone.

2) write the scene where herondaisy give each other the second runes. It feels wrong that we didn’t get that since cassie made such a big deal about it in ChoI.

and then when tatiana crashes the party she could say that their marriage was a sham and cordelia could ask the people who believe tatiana if they want to see her marriage runes or are they done listening to the lady with a knife to a child’s throat. 

3) split the second part of the book between London, Edom and Idris. The fact that we didn’t get to see the parents’ reaction to their kids being dead, kidnapped by a prince of hell and trapped with vicious killing machines is beyond me. and the trial? charles finally stepping up and defending his family? bridgestock being fired? I think we deserve to see those moments, not just hear that they happened. 

4) that secrets scene with lucie and cordelia…why? I mean why this late in the book? It was so unnecessary. If she really wanted to test their friendship she could’ve sent them to Edon BEFORE they made up.

Imagine, they have this huge fight about keeping secrets, they don’t talk to each other for a while, but then they have to work together to save james and matthew and just when they think their friendship is going to be ok, the secret demon shows up. but this time cordelia’s secret is that she knew about the bracelet before james told everyone else (because her actual secret was stupid)

5) have one more chapter before the epilogue!!! where we see the character finally grief. sure they didn’t really have time to do that before because of Belial and the Watchers, but once the dust settles they have this moment of “oh, Christopher is dead” and give him a FUNERAL!!!

(the fact that he didn’t get one feels so wrong)

and end the chapter on a solemn note and THEN give us six months later when we see them finally moving on. And you know…give us Will and Tessa finding out about the bracelet!!! (that one is personal)

[saturnnm]

I just hate the intermission: grief part. Definitely not what I expected. Huge disappointment

[tys-kitty]

I‘m still scared of this! Like we don‘t even know if it‘s in TLH or TWP but gosh I‘m scared…

[obsessedwithbooksandmusic]

Ok ok so I have many feelings about this

I very much believe that if it’s in COT it’s definitely gonna be Kamala/Ariadne + Anna, with Anna the one dying, it makes complete sense. Would Anna die? Not completely sure, but I’m betting on no because Cassie is the type to have a lot of the ships (especially the gays we love the gays she loves the gays) get their happily ever after and I don’t think that Arianna is getting split for this exact reason. But it would be extremely angsty for this to happen and would make a good opportunity for these two to finally get together and have a scene where Ariadne/Kamala is the one asking for Anna to stay alive y’know cos references.

If it’s TWP, Kit and Ty. I am the last person who wants either to die so I think they won’t for the reason I stated earlier about happy endings. And in this Kit is dying in Ty’s arms and we get a scene where Ty is saying to him the same words he said to/about Livvy before and after he raised her from the dead ending it with “I love you Kit, I love you.” Ahaha making myself sad with this anyways- or or Dru and Ash, Ash dying in Dru’s arms. I know a lot of ppl might be iffy about Morgernthorn, in all honesty, same. But I have a huge feeling that they will turn out to be an enemies to lovers, with Ash repeatedly trying to make sure Dru stays his enemy, cos of his mother and a bunch of other things, so it would explain why Ash would be the one dying, but obviously he won’t acc die (happy endings reason).

very sorry for this random rant but I have many feelings about this and I will continue to have them and so I just spilled them all rn yw to those who were interested

[saturnnm]

OMG YOU GOTTA BE SH*TTİNG ME IT IS DEFINITELY GONNA HAPPEN IN TWP WE ARE F*CKED

[saturnnm]

CoT SPOILERS

okay so... I think the reason most people didn't like the book, cassie write so many dialogue ( and they were really good), she really focused on the relationships but she missed the parts in the battles or other important stuffs. SHE CHANGED HER FOCUS.

And I also think that she read most of the theories and she wanted to change so people would be shocked, but it did not work out for us.

I was really hopeful at the begging of the book because it started dramatically, but when I came into the middle, I realized this book was different from other books she wrote, yes ıt was more dramatic but also kinda not how I expected it...

Can we talk about it guys I wanna know your ideas

[kotwkawie]

i was worried from the moment she mentioned she changed the ending...

you can't just do that, especially when you've spend the last 6 years setting up the original ending.

you can't write a mystery where the butler did it, but then change it last second to the maid. because it wouldn't make sense.

but...in the newsletter cassie said that she's aware that many plot points are still unfinished. so i'm hoping the next short story collection will essentially be the last hours book 4, where she fixes the problems that appeared once she changed the ending.

[saturnnm]

well at least she is aware of her mistakes and ı hope she will fill the blanks with good stuffs

[saturnnm]

CoT SPOILERS

okay so... I think the reason most people didn't like the book, cassie write so many dialogue ( and they were really good), she really focused on the relationships but she missed the parts in the battles or other important stuffs. SHE CHANGED HER FOCUS.

And I also think that she read most of the theories and she wanted to change so people would be shocked, but it did not work out for us.

I was really hopeful at the begging of the book because it started dramatically, but when I came into the middle, I realized this book was different from other books she wrote, yes ıt was more dramatic but also kinda not how I expected it...

Can we talk about it guys I wanna know your ideas

[katy-krazy-xoxo]

The problem is I hate it when plot continuity is broken and the pre-covid version probably had a lot more of the plot points she mentioned and laid out previously actually addressed.

The book is still dramatic and I still like it but it left me with a “wait what just actually happened plotwise?” at the end and it just doesn’t cut it

I think by introducing so many characters in a book who cc probably wants to have everyone developed as much as she can and trying to introduce so many subtle plot points that could be developed into so much more she kinda written herself into a corner and she can’t really focus on *anything*

[saturnnm]

exactly, I think the first version she wrote would be ( maybe) the perfect ending but I HATE that she decided to change.

there was no continuity like you said, even the transition from one person to another, I reread to understand what I am reading ( also English is not my native language ), and her focus was definitely missing

[saturnnm]

CoT SPOILERS

okay so... I think the reason most people didn't like the book, cassie write so many dialogue ( and they were really good), she really focused on the relationships but she missed the parts in the battles or other important stuffs. SHE CHANGED HER FOCUS.

And I also think that she read most of the theories and she wanted to change so people would be shocked, but it did not work out for us.

I was really hopeful at the begging of the book because it started dramatically, but when I came into the middle, I realized this book was different from other books she wrote, yes ıt was more dramatic but also kinda not how I expected it...

Can we talk about it guys I wanna know your ideas

[saturnnm]

CoT

Every time I check the things in the book, I see so many missing things. Where are the adults? why we didn't see their povs.

[saturnnm]

so now we have to wait for wicked powers..? not ready

[saturnnm]

CoT

Am I the only one who thinks some things are missing in the book? Like why the hell we couldn't see the reactions of Cecily and Gabriel the moment when they learned their son is dead, or the family tree nonsense. There are many things missed and I am really unhappy.

[saturnnm]

why is cassie killing the lightwoods from each series? should I be scared of the wicked powers? god please no

[saturnnm]

I also didn't like the way of the family tree explanation. Like, what the hell was that. do you really think that is the best explanation for it

[helenofblackthorns]

starting to feel like a broken record bc I did enjoy cot & I do have thoughts on other aspects of the book but I can't get over how Kit's death was treated in the narrative. he was paid fucking dust and for a series so heavily about friendship, none of his friends actually seemed to grieve him that much. and this isn't something I hold against the characters, it is very much cc who didn't fucking include scenes (like his funeral!! where the fuck is that!!). like I can't get over how mad I am about it, that once his usefulness of being "the inventor" wore off he simply disappeared from the story all together. like there wasn't even a scene with just the Merry Thieves, now without him, dealing with his loss. like they didn't go back to the devil tavern or anything like that. there was no fucking closure, none at all.

[saturnnm]

EXACTLY

[saturnnm]

chain of thorns

I really started to think that cassie f*cking killed Matthew. And I'm f*cking scared to read more.

[follow-the-pages]

All I’ll say is, keep reading!

[saturnnm]

I did... WELL I AM SHOCKED AND HAPPY