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I just heard the phrase 'the end of the second Elizabethan era' and felt such euphoria.
iām a guy but a daughter
mormon kids under the age of 18 being told their church is a cult
mormons 18-24 after they go through their endowment ceremony and receive their new name and secret clothing and learn the secret handshakes and passwords and realize everyone around them has been secretly doing this the whole time and now theyre going to be sent away from their family for 2 years where they will literally not be allowed to be alone for 1 second of the day except to go to the bathroom and they have no idea how to get out of what they just got into
one of the only perks of being a mormon woman is that i didnāt get my endowment at age 19 and i had a little extra time to mature and be out on my own. thatās all i needed to make a clean break and i got out at 21 before i wouldve gotten my endowment.Ā
wait what? can anyone elaborate on this? because I had no idea this was a thing
basically when youre a mormon kid growing up you realize your church is a little strict but youāre like whatever. i have friends at church because i go to church 6 days a week and everyone around me is affirming that this is the right thing to do and we have special knowledge no one else has otherwise everyone would be like this. so youve gotta go teach them & itās the greatest thing in the world to be a missionary. also the temple is beautiful and amazing and spiritual and holy and everyone wants to go there. but itās a secret! :) because itās holy and sacred
then if youre a boy and u turn 18 theyāre like wow amazing!!! you get to go on a mission and be like all the great men around you!! and now you get to go through the temple! so #blessed!
and then you go through the temple and all the above mentioned SECRET CULTY SHIT happens (EXPLANATION HEREĀ http://mormoncurtain.infymus.com/topic_templeceremonies.html) and youre shipped off to a strange place where everything you eat, wear, go, listen to and do is controlled, and youāre not allowed to talk to your family or friends (except through a once-a-week email) and you literally are being watched by your companion at all. times.Ā
some might say āyou can leave at any timeā but consider that i never went on a mission and i never went through the temple and i still consider leaving the mormon church the hardest thing i ever did. you have no social network outside the church. you are lacking major knowledge and skills. you have to grapple with the fact that you may never see your family again.
Iām reblogging this again bc I have Thoughts.
Leaving is such an isolating experience. No one inside wants anything to do with you anymore and no one outside understands the scale of messed up that Mormonism is. Like itās easy to point and laugh at the ridiculousness, but itās literally a cult. Thereās so much trauma involved and thereās trauma in leaving.
People on the outside donāt understand how hard it is to leave. I grew up where all my friends were catholic and are no longer religious and theyāre like āwell everyone hates church, you just stop goingā but Mormonism isnāt like that at all. For starters I had to get a lawyer involved to leave and then the ostracization from the entire community that nurtured me growing up was just the cherry on top. Itās effectively being shunned. Everyone you were forced to call sister and brother growing up no longer wants anything to do with you. And you deserve it, because you shouldnāt have fallen for the anti-Mormon lies.
Leaving The Church was the hardest thing I ever did and my family accepts me so Iām a lucky one. But they still ardently adhere to the institution that hurt me and has resulted in the deaths of people I love. I will never understand.
āThereās so much trauma involved and thereās trauma in leaving.ā
Itās easy for people looking in from the outside to forget this. Thank you for the reminder. Can anyone recommend resources for young Mormons looking to explore their options?
Please note: this post will be directly addressed to those hypothetical young Mormons
If you know youāre ready to leave, use quitmormon.com. Itās run by the guy from reddit who is now famous in exmormon circles for offering absolutely free legal services to anybody who needs help leaving. You can give your church id number if you know it, but itās not required (I never memorized mine, and I sure wasnāt going to ask for it). He takes care of everything. This keeps TSCC (the so-called church) from getting all your latest info and keeps them from hassling you or harassing you. They have to talk to your lawyer instead. Pre 2015, it felt almost impossible to try to leave, but itās a lot easier now! The years of picketing General Conference to force an excommunication trial are over!
Find a support system. Lean on your friends that have never been mormon, any family members who left, anyone you know who left. Iām an exmormon happy to answer any questions, and Iām sure there are plenty others in the notes who would be super willing to be supportive too. Exmormon groups are many and varied now, and itās best to find the one that vibes for you. Thereās a subreddit thatās popular, but I personally used - and I know this sounds weird, since I donāt have kids - a forum called Mormonism & More on the site babycenter.com. It was started several years ago by some mormons who had questions they werenāt allowed to ask on the normal mormon board (because that board required uplifting, mormon-approved answers at all times). Itās since shifted to ex-mormons or people who want to leave but canāt right now because of family situations. Even though the threads were years old, I spent weeks on that forum, reading about what other people had gone through and how they got through it, and to me, that was super helpful.
Research the culty stuff at your own peril. I liked learning about that stuff for a really long time, because I felt learning about all those secrets (I especially liked learning about the truth of the Book of Abraham) ⦠it helped me feel valid in my choice. It helped me keep in mind that this was something that I had escaped, something that had wanted to hurt me. Missing your abuser doesnāt mean you should go back, it means you should keep moving forward. Missing your cult has the same solution. Lots of people fell for the āweāre totally not a cult!ā line by TSCC. Some of them will not offer sympathy. If you want to watch the hidden camera videos of endowments and other temple stuff, I would super super recommend you have a trusted friend watch them with you. And bring comfort food. Youāll probably need it.
TSCC put out a series of essays on controversial (read: faith-killing, eye-opening, omg how could I have ever supported the people who did this) issues in mormon history. They are the Orthodox LDS pre-approved responses to a lot of the more incriminating accusations that have been leveled at TSCC over the years. They should be hosted on TSCC website somewhere, and would have been posted around or after 2015. They may reaffirm your faith now that you know TSCCās defense, but they may push you right out the door. (Or break the shelf? Do Mormons still use the shelf analogy, or is that retired now?)
Lots of mormons become atheists after leaving. Many join mainstream xian churches. Some become witches, some study every religion they can get their hands on, some try to go back and realize all the magic (or holy spirit, if you prefer) is gone. Donāt think you have to know right away. Some people throw away or burn all their mormon stuff, some people keep it to show their kids, but again, you donāt have to make that decision right away. Some people call TSCC a cult after they leave, myself included, but you donāt have to if it makes you uncomfortable or it it doesnāt feel true to your experience.
Look up religious trauma syndrome. Itās real. The pain you will probably feel is real, the grief you will probably feel is real, and in many ways, you may have to mourn the death of what you were always told Life Will Be For You.
And learn that the world is not half as evil as TSCC told you. Your coworkers who drink a beer at the end of the day are not evil or abusive. Your friends who wear sleeveless shirts are not evil or promiscuous. Youāre allowed to wear short shorts! Youāre allowed to drink coffee! Youāre allowed to ask questions in a faith community without being silenced or condemned! Youāre allowed to not want kids! Thereās a lot of unlearning here.
TLDR? You have options. You have freedom. Find nonmormon friends who will support you. Be kind to yourself.
People joke about Mormons but this is the first time Iāve seen anything at all directed towards people who need to get out.
I had a high school friend turned college roommate who left, moved 4 hrs away, and I had to lie to people who showed up repeatedly that he wasnāt home. Thatās just the smallest outside perspective of this. They kept coming.
It is a cult. It operates by manipulating people. My aunt, who also left, converted from Catholicism when she was a single mother in her 20s who needed help. The church gave her a network of tangible support and got her through a vulnerable, scary time in her lifeāand used that
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TateCakes says, "customer asked for brown bread and i didn't hear them so i said you're having sourdough' but forgot to ask it like a question and she just said 'OK'."
BrooklynBradshaw21 says, "One time answered the phone at my job by saying "January, February, March...I'm so sorry I don't know why did that how can I help you" they hung up."
CailynVol6 comments, "One time the phone was ringing but for some reason I hit the intercom button and said, 'Hello?' across the entire store".
EatAssLOL0 comments, "One time greeted a customer by saying "Hey Google it was a bad day."
ShaynaHicks21 says, "One time a lady told me her last name was "Romaine" like the Lettuce, so typed in "Lettuce" as her last name... she came back in and laughed at me."
IceWatee_Stan says, "It's OK I charged someone $100 for a scoop of ice cream once and all he said was 'that's a bit expensive'."
A screenshot of the video itself, which shows a woman giving a grimace of a smile to the camera with the caption, "When I was working the cash register at my retail job and I had to put in the customers first name and she said her name was Lisa but for some reason I typed in Susan and she just goes, 'my name's not Susan...' and I said 'I'm sorry I have no idea why I did that.'"
More comments follow; one by HowdyAllYeehaw which says, "A customer was complimenting my earrings and I responded with 'Aww, love you too!' she never came back."
Stede_Bonnets says, "When I worked at Starbucks drive-through and said, 'Hi, welcome to McDonald's,' even though I'd never worked at McDonald's."
An unknown user comments, "Guy at the cafe I work at said his name was Sergio and I put banjo. Woke up in a cold sweat that night when I finally realized."
DomDaddy449 says, "One time accidentally asked a customer if they wanted to help fight kids with cancer instead of helping them fight cancer when asking for donations."
BolloxKS comments, "Had someone named Garret come in and he left with 'gart' written on his latte."
HijaDeDannyDeVito says, "I greeted my table saying my name was Linda.... My name is Alyssa, not even close."
PhilMitchelWalford says, "I once spelt blue as B L O O and had to go "sorry that's not how you spell blue"š."
TayaNotTayla comments, "One time a guy said to me 'Geoff with a g' and I wrote J G E F F"šš."
EmmaLilJebys replies, "I said, 'Hi, and welcome home' once when I worked the drive thru at Burger King."
BBrainRott comments, "I answered the phone at work one time and said, 'Are you finding everything okay?' instead of 'Hi, how can I help you?'"
VeriryGrace17 says, "I worked at a Pizza Hut and when I answered the phone one time instead of saying, 'Hello, Pizza Hut,' I said, 'Hello, BBQ Meat Lovers.'"
BaoBhan adds, "Doing a thing in class with a partner, I write down his name as James. He goes, 'Oh, no, it's Louis.' I go, 'Right, sorry' and then write James again."
NotMackenzieKeene says, "I handed a customer their food while the phone was ringing in my back pocket and looked them in the eyes and said, 'This is Mackenzie speaking.'"
TommyJoanCrow comments, "Drive-through barista asked me if I wanted a receipt, I stared at her blankly without answering, tried to drive away and drove straight into the wall."
Ayo.Its.Krissy says, "Me working at Subway, a customer tells me what cheese they want and I respond immediately with, 'And what kind of cheese?'"
MayorOfGoatville says, "Being told the name was Scott for the waitlist and writing down Shart. And he said, 'Oh, it's Scott.' I said, 'Oh, I'll change that.'"
UpsettySpaghetti says, "I answered the phone, took their name and address and then said, 'Is that all?' before they even ordered anything."
Brainless.James says, "i realized we forgot to put cold foam on this guy's drink and reached into his car and just went, 'Gimme it.'"
Bri.Liza adds, "A customer pulled up to the window and I said, 'Good morning!' it was quite literally 9:00pm."
Insectz comments, "One time a girl ordered a coffee with 2 sugars and I looked her in the eye and said, 'No sugars?'"
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i feel like people got so weird about age gaps in this very abstract sense that now there's this taboo about being friends with someone who's a few years older or younger than u....like, i have friends in their 70s and i have friends in their early 20s and im always friendly with teenagers & kids too because they all deserve to have adult friends in their lives who they can trust! other people projecting their gross shit onto those friendships is not my problem
guess what! its good for us to have intergenerational friendships actually! its good for all of us to have healthy, friendly, respectful relationships with people of different ages! it works in all directions!