Some Vegebul yearning because yes. If you know the pose reference I used for this, you get a sticky star :) Here's the final and sketch because I loved the sketch so much too
Thought about Miss Geets Mom at work today and decided I wanted to draw her when I got home.
Her name is Chube (Pronounced tchoo-bay, from 'Tuber' b... because... because she's the root... of the Veget- has anyone made this joke yet?)
Buncha headcanons under the cut!
Her genetics show up the most in Geets' transformations
She ended up Queen because during the civil war she had the highest body count of any breeding female -- which is just an objective observation on her planet, but is a sentence that lands very differently on Earth.
She's 5'0" and has a build closer to Vegeta's than Tarble's
The "softness" her boys have, including Vegeta's guardian instincts, can be blamed on her -- She was a highly successful militia leader who kept her squad alive throughout their missions by putting her team's wellbeing above her own
The softness extended to her extramarital "companion", Rabi, another woman in her squad
She and Vegeta rarely saw each other, both being active combatants
She took great offense to King V sending Tarble to die while she was out on a mission, and while she lacked the words for how it felt, she loudly considered it disrespect and theft.
She took consistent back-to-back missions afterward, so that she would always have an excuse not to go home.
She was not on-world when the planet was destroyed. Her companion was.
Chube assumed everyone she knew was dead and did not return to the Freeza Force.
When it became clear that Freeza's men were hunting down and killing the rest of the Saiyans, she removed her tail, cut her hair, and started planet-hopping with a much lower profile
She did not know Vegeta was alive until he'd gained a reputation and his title as a Lord, at which point it was well-known how he dealt with the disloyal and disappointing in his ranks, and she avoided him (as she did all of the Freeza Force) out of fear that he would kill her.
When reports that Freeza and all of the highest ranking members of the Freeza Force were killed on Namek, she assumed her son dead, and stopped scanning for news of FF activity.
She has a plethora of aliases and did not start using her real name again until she settled on the planet she now calls home
Like Vegeta, she spent the first half of her life embedded in war and the pride of her culture, and has spent the second half of it detangling those mindsets and learning how to be a person outside of her Saiyan identity.
She's spent the last several decades building a quiet life for herself on a small, peaceful planet that guards the secret of her origins.
She lives with her girlfriend and is a general smithy/handyman/lumberjack/mechanic/etc -- Anywhere she can use her strength and abilities to help her community, she does.
Having assumed Tarble died as a baby, and Vegeta both dead and having taken after his father, she does not know either of her sons are alive, and has not attempted to look for proof that they aren't.
Her biggest regret is not being able to protect either of her boys (or Rabi) from their father (or Freeza), and while she is very happy in the life she has now, she wonders often where they would all be now if she'd thought to run sooner.
When Vegeta and Bulma's heights are listed in feet he's 1 inch shorter than her (5'3 vs 5'4), and when they're listed in centimeters Vegeta is 1 cm shorter than Bulma (164 vs 165), but 1 cm isn't even half of an inch, it's ~0,4 of an inch. From my euro standpoint vegebuls are basically even, so when I see all the demands from ppl that Vegeta be like a half a head shorter than Bulma I'm like ....but there wouldn't be much of a difference 😅 Did we ever get anything from Toriyama on the topic?
Not that I’m aware of, aside from how he draws them, which varies panel to panel. The ‘Vegeta’s a whole head shorter’ is from the epilogue where he’s standing next to her and is indeed a whole head shorter, although I always interpreted that as exaggerating that Bulma is wearing heels (which she never(?) wears throughout the rest of the manga). Toyo seems to draw them roughly the same height with Vegeta being a hair shorter or taller than her depending on how they’re framed, so the 1cm is probably closest to The Truth (although he will always be 5’3” to me, haha) since Toriyama was actively revising his drawings at the time and never corrected them.
BUT Toriyama did say very loudly that he cares more about telling a good story than getting the details right, so it’s probably just one of those things he genuinely did not care about as long as the compositions were solid and the basic vibes were right. Iirc his note in the official guides are basically like, ‘I’m humbled by your efforts and grateful someone cares so much about this! Couldn’t be me.’ fnjddj Icon that he was.
The way that 5000 Trump supporters and Klan members got drowned out during a really bad storm when they were gonna march in DC... and they had to seek shelter in the- wait for it-
The African American Smithsonian.
The writing hasn't been this good and pro-Black since Charlie got Kirked 🤣 But seriously, like... Imagine! Imagine marching in your hatred and fearmongering, having to seek shelter bc even nature rebuked your presence, AND you had to seek aid in a place where the people you hate... STILL gave you shelter. It couldn't be more obvious.
someone's height is a neutral feature of their body. it is not a reflection of their age, cognitive ability, or right to respect (even though you need to respect the personhood of others regardless of age or cognitive ability anyway). being short shouldn't mean anything more than a factor you take into account to make an accessible world. short people aren't children, aren't automatically cute or funny or harmless - they're just people. it's honestly absurd the way people immediately lose any sense of maturity when it comes to discussion about height
Listen I don’t trust the published version of the character heights based on the Toei model sheets because Toei thinks Vegeta is taller than Bulma Toriyama’s final DB project featured Bulma yelling that Krillin was practically the same height as his child self and Goku firing shots at Vegeta for not getting much out of his growth spurt except 5’5” wouldn’t be that weird when 5’7” is the average height in Japan. But 5’3” would.
I’ve seen one post that said that Saiyan men would have treated their women a bit better than we do, and I really wanted to know what your thoughts are on that.
I’m very much of that opinion, yeah! For one thing Saiyans don’t operate under patriarchal religious pretense, but for the other they’re a Might Makes Right culture, so what’s between your legs does not guarantee your right to anything — especially when the entire population can go Kaiju mode to settle a dispute.
The fact that Saiyans canonically have an issue with keeping their population up while also maintaining the luxury of sorting their offspring into potential battle tiers suggests to me that Saiyan women were not assigned birthers at birth. I imagine (most) breeding pairs probably got together with more of Nappa’s mentality of hoping to create powerful offspring, rather than just carrying on a bloodline or being born for the sake of having more assets. Toriyama even noted once that bloodlines only matter to the elites, as well. Presumably for both the purposes of legacy and optimized breeding. Considering King V launched his baby boy, they seem like a quality over quantity society to me.
Saiyans, even low ranking warriors, are very prized fighters in that universe. Vegeta claims that it does not matter how many fighters are sent, one Saiyan elite is plenty to handle it — and considering he’d never retreated before and Cui tells us they have a reputation of being invincible, he’s probably being honest based on his personal experience. I genuinely imagine that whether or not a Saiyan is expected to have kids is probably more based on whether or not the potential parents believe the potential offspring is worth spending the resources and time pregnancy takes — especially if it’s going to remove someone from their job in a society with a low population — not because someone was born with a uterus.
So between that and Saiyans not really caring about romance, the foundations of misogyny are pretty much eliminated. But also, Saiyans are interstellar in their conquest and business practice, and are capable of hybridization, so they likely don’t base their value on a gender binary! Especially considering Freeza and King Cold, the strongest fighters the Saiyans have ever come across, are of a race that reproduces asexually.
apropos of absolutely nothing i was thinking about how vegeta hates magic but has a bunch of transformations and the little vegeta in my head went ‘that’s not magic that’s science, that’s biology, that can be measured and controlled’ and i was like lol man vegeta’s a nerd and the little vegeta in my head went ‘yeah that’s why i married Girl Nye the Science Bi’ and i thought you guys would enjoy that