[kashuan]

after a 6 year hiatus I return with more iliad (adjacent) art :`) also my tastes have not changed at all in 6 years

[elcctra]

IPHIGENIA: But your eyes look worried. Are you really happy to see me?

AGAMEMNON: Kings and generals have many worries.

IPHIGENIA: Oh forget them for now, forget them. I am here, put them aside and be with me.

AGAMEMNON: I’m all yours now. I’m nowhere else. (Iphigenia in Aulis by Euripides)

agamemnon and iphigenia in iphigenia (1977), helen of troy (2003) and troy: fall of a city (2018)

[punished-venom-solitair-e]

everyone post your biggest hear me outs my friend just showed me two conventionally attractive white men in a row i need to teach him what a real hear me out is

[gardenofeden5457]

.world's largest excavator- nay, world's largest vehicle- the bagger 288

.also, scale reference! just the wheel is 70 feet in diameter

[fandaniel]

having a multi year long character obsession becomes like a abstract thought experiment at some point

[capacity2]

Im not compatible with a single person on the entire planet

[decadentlorenzocollector-deacti]

not El rebloging, when she is compatible w me😩

[elsagism]

You know what, you're right *kisses you*

[decadentlorenzocollector-deacti]

come here my love *spins you around*

[capacity2]

[godisafujoshi]

Your capacity for evil is showing

[segamascott]

does it make me look cute

[inflamedautistic]

The Iliad is probably one of the funniest books I ever read

Like I'll be having a not-so-good day, then remember how Hector had given himself an entire pep talk to fight Achilles. He saw Achilles running full speed towards him and proceeds to just book it.

Or when Menelaus got shot by an arrow in like in an ultimately nonfatal spot, and Agamemnon begins prematurely mourning him while he's standing there like 🧍‍♂️” you're scaring the men.”

Or when Odysseus is walking around the camps with a royal scepter and is just beating people with it if he finds them packing or suggesting to leave.

Or when Hector is brainstorming on how to face Achilles and for a moment goes, “Maybe I could talk with him, we’re both princes, we can both be rational, I could reason with him… that's a horrible fucking idea.”

I have more, but these, in particular, really tickle me.

[andros-paidophonoio]

The last one of course but also the metaphor Hector comes up with to consider talking rationally with Achilles being like “we can’t talk reasonably together…not like how a girl and boy chat and flirt with each other…no that would never happen” he really used his last moments of his life to make this weirdly specific comparison

other Hector moments for me:

The running thing of Polydamas having a reasonable idea or observation and Hector getting mad at him for daring to have a sensible suggestion and being unreasonably angry

him DYING because he was like “i’d rather die than go back and Polydamas say “i told you so”

him talking to Andromache and basically saying “if we lose i will die and you will live and become enslaved and live a miserable life for the rest of your life and our beloved child will probably die horribly too. Anyways im out to do extremely risky things now”

and the funeral games of course people SPORTS BETTING at Patroclus’ funeral and Achilles having to tell them to knock it off

[guiltfactory-moved]

the "my favorite character did nothing wrong" mindset is completely unappealing to me because i love thinking about all the things my favorite characters did wrong

[homunculus-argument]

Betrayed and backstabbed by your scheming evil advisor? Psch. Skill issue. Absolute amateur problem. Just hire two of them and reward them for snitching on each other. Just make sure that neither of them is gay or they'll just end up hate-fucking each other and fucking you over all the same.

[miss-hexatrix]

"hire two evil advisors but make sure neither of them is gay" are you hearing yourself right now. be serious

[terradni]

[ex-riddlecats]

i'll be honest it gets kind of annoying when ppls immediate canned response to an m/f ship is "she deserves better" because over half the people who say that then proceed to hyperfocus on some yaoi with the man involved and never give the woman a second glance. forgive me but i think she deserves better than being girlbossed off screen and never mentioned again

[kiwimintlime]

*feministly*: women should never be centered in stories because Bad Stuff™ might happen to them

[catboybiologist]

Ice beam is low-key a sauceless "standard" move for its type

[catboybiologist]

Earthquake? That is THE ground move. The ground quakes beneath you.

Surf? A giant wave of water that your pokemon can ride. A thunderous tide. Invokes the ocean.

Thunderbolt? Arcing flashes of electricity zap you.

Flamethrower? Fire breath, fire throwing, an arc of propelled flame is classic.

Ice beam? It's a beam. Of ice. Could've been a gust of frigid wind, or a frost incursion, or being entombed in a glacial slab, but noooooo it's a beam. Of ice.

[kittycatwhore]

yes but it goes foowaaaa ting ting ting ting ting ting and i really like that part

[catboybiologist]

Fuck you're right post cancelled

[melongifts]

They dont even know im having a category 10 blorbo event

[goldensunset]

>‘this thing is too generic and tropey’

>look inside

>forefather of that genre

[firestorm09890]

[frankbelloriley]

[soundbuster]

Reading Euripides' Helen after finding out how Nolan did Menelaus and Helen dirty is a serious and urgent act of healing:

[narcissa-black-supermacy]

i thought the “this is the face that launched a thousand ships, although now it would maybe be five-hundred.” line was just an internet joke but apparently that's a line Menelaus actually says in Nolan's Odyssey??

Not only that the language itself sounds straight out of a marvel forcibly funny haha moment, but Menelaus? The Menelaus who all thoughout human history, from Homer, to Sappho, to Euripides, to Virgil, to Shakespeare, to Brooke, to Barth; from Classical vases to Medieval poetry to Reinessance art, has been known as the man whose sword fell from his hands at the sight of his wife after 10 years apart?

"What joy for me to hold my wife" Menelaus?

"He flung the sword away, and kissed her feet" Menelaus?

"I believe all. I understand nothing. I love you" Menelaus?

"I have no fault to find; my wife, he daughter of Zeus and Leda, is mine again, she whom her brothers on their snow-white steeds, whilst torches blazed, made my happy bride, but gods removed her from my home." Menelaus?

The Menelaus who was picked out of the suitors by Helen herself? The Menelaus who couldn't kill a begging Trojan so his brother had to do it for him? The Menelaus who rescued Odysseus and got out Patroclus' body? The Menelaus who volounteered to fight Paris one on one so everybody could go home? Who kept expressing his guilt about himself being the cause of war through every assembly he spoke at in the Iliad? Who after 10 years away at Troy, took his wife through a 7-year long journey at sea back home, where he reinstated her as the queen of Sparta? Who wept like a child in front of Telemachus recalling the war and his brother and all the friends he lost and the only consolation being his wife' gentle hand on his?

You want me to believe that man scarred Helen's face and called her only worth half the ships because of it?

I'm actually physically sick just thinking about it.

[nonlynear]

[suddenly disillusioned] my illusions..