To an extent I’m using “your recruiter” as a rhetorical device - my specific recruiter never told me about how well these jobs would shift to post-military life or that I could be a photographer for Stars & Stripes.
Military recruitment ads have been making promises about the glamorous and profitable jobs you’ll be doing for years; pre-show recruitment bullshit is actually part of why i had to stop going to the movies. (I’m not going to link to any of the “look at all these cool jobs on flight decks or in control towers or in intelligence” ads but we’re all familiar with the genre, right?)
The lack of reciprocity between civilian and military certifications does suck, but that wasn’t specifically what I was talking about. Part of it is that your certifications won’t match up but a bigger part of that is that a lot of the people they’re feeding this dream to are infantry. They wouldn’t end up working on electronics anyway.
I know a guy who went in as a plumber with a DUI and hopes of coming out with a clean record and time with the Army Corps of Engineers so that he could maybe end up working in construction as a commercial plumber.
Ranger school sure as fuck didn’t help him with that and now he’s been in for ten years and could probably kill someone from an impressive distance but he’s basically never worked with PEX piping and is a decade behind where he would be if he’d stayed in the civilian population so he stays in because he doesn’t know what else he’d do.
Plumber to ranger to career.
High school student to Infantry to cop.
High school to infantry to self-employed, self-trained machinist.
High school to loadmaster to packing up boxes in a warehouse to loadmaster again because he got laid off and couldn’t find anything else.
Dog trainer to MP to dump truck driver.
High school to infantry to failing out of an English Lit program and working as a stocker at Target.
I don’t think anyone around my age who I know has been military has had job skills that have translated to the kind of work they want to do after the military.
I’m glad that they’re apparently not putting effort into using immigration as a recruitment tool, PLEASE give me more info on that if you can because I see “it’s a pathway to immigration” being used as a defense of the military all the time.
With the recruiter lying - look, I think this is actually a sunk cost thing. They can’t lie about your signing bonus once you’re standing there with the papers but they can lie about it to get you to go take the test, they can lie about what job options you have before you qualify.
When I tried to sign up it took something like eight visits back and forth to the recruitment office for “oh we forgot to give you this paper” or “oh, we actually need your social security card” and so on on top of a trip to MEPS and back to the recruiter’s office before I was told I didn’t qualify.
Every time I went back it was more talk about bonuses or benefits or some other thing that I (as a suicidally depressed teenager who didn’t know how else to get out of my parents house) thought sounded great. When I first walked in I was kind of resigned - “I guess this is what I’ve got to do if I want to get out” - but by the time I was told I wouldn’t make the cut I was devastated (and ready to defend the recruiter who DID specifically lie to me; I didn’t qualify because I have bad, uncontrolled asthma which my recruiter told me to leave off the forms and that it wouldn’t matter in the medical test. The only reason the process stopped there was because someone else in the office overheard him telling me to lie about it). If they had told me right then “well, we might have to strike the bonuses but we can probably get you in on a medical waiver” I might have done it. By then I wanted it. They structure it to make you want to join up.
When I finished my ASVAB and a dude with a shitload of ribbons on his uniform asked my score and looked impressed and said I could do anything I wanted. He asked what branch I was signing on with and when I said his branch he said “damn straight, glad to have you” and that feeling was like heroin. They liked me, they thought I’d do well, I was smart and they wanted me on their team. Everyone in the recruiter’s office was always glad to see me. They always listened. They made me feel like I really belonged there.
That’s lovebombing, my dudes, and it is a straight-up cult recruitment tactic.
I get *why* people join up. I tried to join up for some of the same reasons (I’m a clear part of group 2 on your list).
But the leverage that gets applied - well, you know. You’re saying it.