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I feel like the interview with the ROTT producer was just a trifecta of terrible things to hear from a producer of something you want to be good:
- Admiration for the MCU’s plot structure
- Fan of Attack on Titan
- Belief that a happy ending where traumatized kids get to heal and get on with their lives is boring
I miss Troll Jim and although him becoming human again was masterfully played out I miss my floofy boi 😭
RIGHT!!! I’m happy so long as Jim is safe and happy but he was happy as a half troll too, and it really felt like the end of Trollhunters was cheapened by this radical change. Maybe I would feel differently about it if Wizards were much longer, and we had time to see Jim being a half-troll and such before getting the shard stuck in him. And when he is human again, he looks soooo tired and done with it all. Like he just got used to this new life of his and was happy for it and then THAT was stolen too. IDK, it’s just so weird. So many elements to consider with his character development and journey.
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Hi guys🥴
From now on, Aaron is communicating in emojis, then leaving us to go insane. Anyway, here are my thoughts so far…
🌎 - Earth is in danger. Again. Oh boy. Or the majority of Titans will take place on Earth, as opposed to space. 💥 - … The fact that THIS is the emoji that follows the Earth one concerns me. But I don’t have any clear guesses for it. 🔥 - Bellroc is coming back. We did see them tracking down Douxie and Nari in the city. 🌿 - NARI!!! ❄️ - Skrael is returning as well. Makes sense. What remains of the Arcane Order is still after Nari. 🕚 - I find it interesting tho that the follow up picture is a bigger, different version of a clock telling the same time this emoji is. 5 minutes until the 12 o’clock hour. What could that mean? I’d guess something about a trailer or release date and a countdown, with December being the 12th month and we have 5 days until something drops, but so far every emoji is symbolizing something in-universe. Hm. 🛸 - The Tarron siblings! Aja is coming back! That’s gonna be splendid. ⚔️ - *squints* This one… I’m not sure. Aaron purposely chose to use the emoji with TWO swords… I’m guessing one symbolizes Excalibur. But what’s the other sword? 🎸 - Our favorite guitar wielding wizard, of course. Douxie! He’s still protecting Nari from the Order. 🏰 - Camelot is the only castle I can think of, but it’s been destroyed. Perhaps Aja and Krel’s home?? 👹 - Frankly, I never figured out what this emoji was, so I can’t even begin to guess what it’s supposed to be.
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I’ve got to say, seeing this post yesterday has me yearn in anticipation (especially Guillermo’s post from not too long ago as well.) It’s been a good week. :) Now, going off of these speculations on these emojis. I love the breakdown you did @belleyells.
These are very specific (and cryptic), and these ones have me curious:
Swords emoji: I thought it was just for Excalibur, but you’re right! Two swords could mean we could have two sword-wielders! Maybe this could even be Steve’s renewed Round Table that he promised to Lancelot?!
Castle emoji: This could mean anything! Camelot getting restored, since the ruins are in Arcadia. Flashback to Camelot, because Douxie will remember the memories he had there. Perhaps maybe the Guardians of will have new locations with a castle or castles?
Clock (facing 11 o’clock) emoji: This one is so odd!!! It could be time travel, but it’s so specific with the time. It looks to be a countdown clock, no doubt about it. However, is this for us or something that will be going on in the movie? What if it’s both? What I find interesting too, is it’s placement amongst the emojis. It’s somewhat in the middle, dividing up the Arcane Order characters (flame, leaf, snowflake) and our heroes (spaceship, swords, guitar). Also Poor Nari next to Skrael and Bellroc, that’s not good.
Well one thing’s for sure guys, WE ARE GETTING CLOSE to this trailer, tease, or poster of this spectacular! Are you ready?!! 😆
So, first off, I love your analysis, @belleyells and @thedreamwalkinwizard. Now, let me offer my two cents on that clock:
Do you see how the larger clock that Aaron posted only has the hours 9-12 marked? That is for a very specific reason, because this is a very special sort of clock. It has only ever shown the last three hours, or more specifically, the last 15 minutes. Also that is not five minutes to midnight. It is seven. And yes, that is midnight, not noon.
Often, only a quarter of this clock has shown, by cutting out the parts of the clock that would show the hours from 1-8. After all, in the past 73 years humanity has never shown any need for that much time.
This is the Doomsday Clock. If you’ve ever heard the phrase “minutes to midnight”, then that phrase originally referred to this very clock. It isn’t some sort of device that’s got a countdown like a bomb. In fact, there could be multiple physical Doomsday Clocks. Rather, it “is a symbol that represents the likelihood of a man-made global catastrophe” and “a metaphor for threats to humanity from unchecked scientific and technical advances”. Midnight is when there is a manmade global catastrophe, whether due to nuclear war, climate change, bioterrorism, or any other potential threat as determined by The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Each January, these scientists meet to discuss whether to leave the clock as-is, move the time closer to midnight (indicating that the state of the world has become worse) or move the time further from midnight (indicating that the state of the world has become better).
The particular clock that Mr. Waltke posted is set to 7 minutes to midnight. I, personally, am not too concerned for our characters now.
As of January 23, 2020, we were stated to be 100 seconds to midnight. Given that Enrique was born in 2016, then the latter parts of Trollhunters, all non-flashback portions of 3Below, and the modern portion of Wizards, would thus all occur in 2017, when the IRL Doomsday Clock was 2.5 minutes away from midnight. The last time the world was 7 minutes from midnight was 2002-2007, and then before that 1980, 1968, 1960 -1963, and of course the initial setting in 1947 up through the second setting in 1949.
Who knows, maybe there’s more time travel 🙃😒 I’m not a time travel fan, this time to one of the years that the world was 7 minutes to midnight. Or maybe there’s a whole ‘nother Doomsday Clock run by the Bulletin of Atomic Wizards or something, and they’re more optimistic on the possibility of the world ending. Perhaps, even, while there are far more supernatural threats in the universe that our characters live in, the governments and corporations are kinder. Less likely to cause nuclear war, climate change, bioterrorism, or any other world-ending threats. Heck, maybe wizards go public in the world and this pushes the clock back to 7 minutes!
But I would be far more concerned if Mr. Waltke had posted a version of the Doomsday Clock never used before, and one I hope never gets used even though it would be very easy to create using an image from Wikipedia and MS Paint. Or, if he just wanted to keep the pretty 7 minutes to midnight clock image, then just change his 11 pm clock emoji to a different emoji:
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Midnight.
[Image description: the first image is a pair of tweets from Aaron Waltke. The first one reads “🌎💥🔥🌿❄️🕚🛸⚔️🎸🏰👹” The second one is an image of a clock that only has dots for the hours 9-12. The clock has been set to 11:53, and the face of the clock has been decorated to look like a beige globe showing the Americas as well as Western Europe and Africa.
The second image is the second tweet, but the person taking screencaps must’ve scrolled down to show the full clock.
The third image is just a repost of the clock that Aaron Waltke posted.
The fourth and fifth images are clocks that only show the hours 9-12, these are quarter clocks. The fourth image has the clock set to 2353:, and the fifth image has the clock set to approximately 23:58:20.]
concept: douxie and nari spend a lot of time together in nyc to the point the forest deity is now throwing the same devil horns hand signs and sticking out her tongue and it throws the arcane order for a loop
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i think the issue I have with the “Jim deserves to be human” argument is that it implies that being human is the inherently superior option to being a troll or half-troll or anything else and that just does not vibe with me
like, in the real world where we humans are the only sapient species, yeah sure
but in a fantasy world like ToA where there are several sapient species? nah bro
sure different species each have their own strengths and weaknesses but being a (half-)troll is not (or should not be) the inherently “lesser” experience or treated like a curse that needs to be lifted because they “deserve better”
just. yeah no. does not vibe sorry
You are right as always! If only Aaron Waltke and Guillermo del Toro heard us and understood us and accepted us not just “yeah, ok…” but did something for us…
Ok, so here’s the thing.
I would LOVE to see troll!Jim make a comeback. I’m very disappointed that they decided to change him back to human at the end of Wizards for numerous reasons. Troll!Jim is and has always been my favorite aspect of the ToA series on several levels and if it were up to me I would have absolutely kept him that way, no question.
HOWEVER.
It is not my story to tell.
Neither Guillermo del Toro, Aaron Waltke, nor any other member of the ToA team have any obligation to cater to me and my wants, specifically.
They have a story they want to tell. I may not like or agree with every single direction it takes, but it’s their story. It has nothing to do with not “understanding” or “accepting” certain fans.
I’ll make my own headcanons and AUs to fit my personal preferences if and when I so desire, and I’ll make posts about why I personally think certain things should have gone a certain way, and you are welcome to do the same, and that is all perfectly fine–but at the end of the day it is not my place, nor yours, nor any other fan’s, to dictate to creators how to tell their story or demand that it goes the way I/you/they want.
If they were obligated to take every fan’s opinion into account and reflect it in canon, the show would be such an inconsistent contradictory mess, because every fan wants different things.
Yes, I was disappointed by this decision, and I still am. But said decision was not mine to make, I as a simple fan am not entitled to having all my preferences canonized, and I accept that.
All fans should. It makes things heaps easier.
My only problem with Troll Jim was that he seemingly couldn’t take his armor off. I couldn’t imagine that was comfortable!
But since Arcadia is accepting Trolls, I don’t see why they wouldn’t have accepted him! (This my fic Arcadia or Bust…)
I imagine he could take it off, they just unfortunately never had the reason/opportunity to show it.
Jimhunters– was too emotionally stressed; the amulet thought he was in danger (this was confirmed in a writer comment)
Eternal Knight and brief 3Below cameos– was actively fighting
Wizards– was impaled by Evil Doom Shard™ through the Amulet, which probably prevented him from taking it off
Plus the fact that he had extra armor on his right hand in Wizards that wasn’t there in Trollhunters implies to me that he’s removed and re-summoned the armor at least once.
As for why he’s still in the Eclipse armor specifically…idk, perhaps while fighting the Green Knight they decided that he was a formidable enough foe to require Eclipse over Daylight, or perhaps the art team just thought he looked better in Eclipse, or perhaps they wanted to distinguish him more from Deya during the Killahead scene, who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I totally agree with you about Arcadia and the trolls though!! People be like “but he can’t finish high school because he got turned into a half-troll!!1!” nah bro he can’t finish high school because he ran off to New Jersey lol. If Arrrggh can attend a day of summer school with no more fanfare than Coach asking why he came, halftroll!Jim could absolutely have finished school had he been able to stay in Arcadia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
some wizards memes ive cooked up over the past few days (mostly douxie tbh)
Listen, I could claim that I have a "sophisticated" sense of humour, but the truth is that the one joke in Trollhunters that had me literally gasping for breath with laughter was when on a double date, Toby whispers "Rule 3!" at Jim, meaning that he should stop Claire and Darci from leaving the table as they'd planned, and Jim automatically, WITHOUT HESITATION, kicks him in the nuts. He's drilled it into his head so hard that "Rule 3" means a crotch-kick that his knee jerks like a reflex test in a doctor's office. I'm a 26 year old woman and I had to pause the show because I couldn't stop laughing at the absolute lowest form of physical comedy, but damn it was funny.
I’m just saying I called four people to tell them about the scene where Claire is wheeling Toby around in the wagon during school hours and when they get stopped, Claire tells the cop that she’s taking her brother to the hospital because he has a condition. And when the cop asks what it is Toby just says, “I have no bones!” And I was crying for at least half an hour.
Absolutely underrated moment from season one that fucking kills me every time: Jim spitting in Strickler’s mouth after getting Angor Rot’s ring back. The spite. The audacity. The fact that he does this despite being on a time crunch
@ all the artists who draw Troll Jim in everyday clothing: you guys are my heroes.
*sips tea* I hope this hasn’t been done already
every single jlaire scene lives in my head rent free
i miss them already
Them: Hello sir, may I have your name?
Me: No, you may not have my name, but you may call me John
Them: Sir, this is a DMV and I am not a fae
Me: Oh? Then you wouldn’t mind holding this iron horseshoe then, right?
*DMV clerk begins to sweat nervously*
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*sips tea* I hope this hasn’t been done already
i love how Draal is this huge hulking troll yet when he sits on this rock his feet don’t even touch the ground because proportionally his legs are just That Dinky
like look at this dude, his fingers are nearly the same length as his calves lol