#asexual exclusion

[detective-bitch]

I saw someone say (shout out to you random comment on tiktok I haven’t been able to find again) that she’s only doing this because she feels left out of the asexual exclusionary to TERF pipeline. Which honestly, with how pathetic these people are, feels legitimately plausible.

Anyway I hope everyone had a good international asexuality day! A day I, an asexual, didn’t know existed until she started talking shit on Twitter. So I guess thanks for the awareness JK?

[thehomo-sapiensagenda]

hey y’all

so for this uni assignment i wanna get people’s opinions on asexuality, so if whoever sees this could share it and fill out the forms, that would be great!!!

For acespec people

https://forms.gle/bnE3x3DFRanFV5L47

For non-acespec people

https://forms.gle/r3caekPFWvnu5MN28

[transmeds]

So I've read a few of your posts and you seem to believe that the only point to the LGBT community is a sense of "belonging" or having "common goals" as if it's some sort of after-school hangout. The community, in most countries, has an actual specific purpose, which is to do actual work to help people in the community get treated better/more rights/etc. To that end, the more people there are in the community, the better it is for everyone. The more people on our side, the stronger we are.

no i think you really misunderstood my opinion. i think that the point of the lgbt community is for fighting for lgbt rights, for lgbt ppl to get treated better. a sense of belonging is only a side part thats a result of those rights.

i see what u mean by the "the more people in the community the better" but for someone to be inside a community fighting for their rights they also need to have a lack of rights to fight for. asexuals do not.

i think that asexuals should be allies, a sister group and that we should work together for lgbt rights. i think that cishet allies who fight for lgbt rights are just as important but they're still not lgbt. i think you just have a weird idea that someone has to be inside the community to fight for it and thats really not true. the more allies the better! but until asexuals lose rights they will not BE lgbt. just a sister community that should hopefully help us out.

its exactly that its not for a sense of belonging that just feeling like u want to be lgbt doesnt make you lgbt. the fact that the community is a struggle for rights is why you need to be lgbt to be inside of it.

the more allies we have, the stronger we are! if someones allyship comes at the cost of pretending they are lgbt then maybe its time they grow up or we focus on trying to find more cishet allies instead of pushing them away because "u have to to be lgbt to speak on lgbt issues"

[luminalunii97]

The prerequisite for discrimination is simply being different from the majority of the society! not being normal!

So what makes you think, in an over-sexualized over-romanticized world, where sexual and romantic relationships are THE normal, an asexual and/or aromantic person is not discriminated?!

I've been feeling wrong, diseased and broken, casted as an outsider, alienated, ridiculed, humiliated, hated, pitied, and treated like less than what a human supposed to be like all my life, before and after I found out my orientation. I call myself queer and believe I'm part of LGBT community because my experience has been very close to my gay/bi/pan friends and very different from my straight friends.

The confusion, the questioning, the fear, the Am-I-queer online tests, the loneliness, and therefore the need to find people who have similar experiences to me, the need for a mentor, the need for validation, the shame I went through because of my orientation, the oscar winning performance of acting straight because I wanted to fit in, the straight romance model in media I couldn't relate to, not completely at least, the pressure to pursue a romantic sexual "normal" relationship when it didn't feel right, these are all the things I've been dealing with growing up.

So if a friend comes out to me as gay I'm gonna respond with 'I know because I've been there, here's a safe space for you to be who you are. I got you'. Because I do. Because no matter what gatekeepers and aphobes think, I've actually been there and I know what it's like.

If the mental trauma a queer person goes through is not valid enough for you to be counted as discrimination, you need to recheck your beliefs.

[officialaspec]

Every time I see an exclusionist say "aros and aces are valid but they need to make their own community and stay out of the LGBT" I want to scream.

WE DID. Aspec people did make "our own" community. We had our own tags on Tumblr; we had our own terms and symbols and safe spaces and jokes. We had our own areas for us to express ourselves and come to terms with our feelings. We had a place to talk to others who were like us. We had a place to exist.

Want to know what happened to it?

EXCLUSIONISTS HAPPENED.

You exclusionists tore it apart. You shoved your way in and lied and manipulated and threatened and bullied a marginalized group back into the closet. You made fun of our terms, and the words we use to describe ourselves.

And now that aspec people are fighting back? All of you cowards are back to "oh well you're valid just not elgeebeetee!!!!! make your own community uwu"

Shut the fuck up. If you don't even know our fucking history, then you have no say in where we do or don't belong. Aspec people have shown you the historical accounts that mention ace people, we've told you about the things we face, we've told you about how we tried to make our own spaces, we've told you all of it and yet there are still exclusionists who will see all this and still not give a fuck.

Exclusionism is hatred and bigotry. That's it. If you're an exclusionist, you're a hateful bigoted aphobic asshole. You're part of a group that proudly bullies and threatens and straight up posts hateful shit about aro and ace people and states it proudly and if you can read those words and not think that something is wrong with that then fuck you.

[crowpocrypha]

I wonder how hard the realization hit when ace exclusionists realized that the reason they didn't consider asexuals members of the lgbt community is (probably) because they subconsciously viewed the lgbt community via the hypersexualized lense that society places on said community.

Therefore, because of the, well, absence of sexualization, asexual people couldn't be considered lgbt.

[riokillrcals08]

I was really deep into truscum tumblr in 2020 and I definitely still hold a lot of exclus beliefs but I just can't with any kind of discourse on tumblr anymore because at this point it's basically just teenage trans guys sending each other death threats and arguing over which side has more furries, homestucks or cringe dsmp fans instead of any kind of logical debate

[aceph0bia]

if you are ace and straight, you are not LGBT. It's as simple as that.