#bi discourse

[a-polite-melody]

It would be so nice if every few years queer tumblr didn’t do a, “this queer identity is more privileged than the rest of us and shouldn’t talk about their issues/shouldn’t even be in the community,” about another identity.

Since I’ve been here it’s been: nonbinary people, bisexual people, asexual and aromantic people, polyamorous people, pansexual people, people who only use the word queer for their identity, trans men/mascs, and intersex people. At least. I might’ve missed something.

We’re stronger together. We all need space to discuss our experiences and all deserve not to be spoken over.

[the-dracologist]

I remember during ace discourse, how exclusionists would say “cishet feelings” when they meant “ace lives”

Now I see people saying “TME feelings” when they mean “trans lives”

It’s my turn to stand up for the latest discourse target, just like how bi people stood up for me when they saw me targeted by the same rhetoric that was once aimed at them

[biphobiaarchive]

biphobia AND trans(andro)phobia too!

[bisexuality-the-concept]

I understand lesbians who would prefer to date other lesbians rather than bi women as they have more experiences in common, I'm the same except the other way around. However, I would never rule out dating a lesbian entirely, that's stupid. And if you start going on about how you won't date bi girls because they cheat, you've lost me entirely.

[sourpatchgrapes]

I would like to address some stuff this

Akihiro has for such a long time been just a very harmful bisexual stereotype.

Promoting your favorite bisexual characters and basically saying "Force yourself to like this other queer character you have zero interest in instead of just fighting for the character you're passionate about getting better representation because I refuse to knowledge your Canon favourite character as queer "/ "Actually his bisexuality don't matter don't fight for better representation for them instead care for these ones instead" is in an insane take.

Love how this person glossed over the genderfluid thing because they know their arguments falls falt when we acknowledge that lok's gender fluidity has been has been shown on page alot therefore they are queer.

Why do you feel the need to tear down a queer character to promote your queer characters? Do you actually genuinely think people is gonna like them when you behave like this?

[in-my-bisexual-opinion]

Hot fucking take o’clock: if you do not understand biphobia and what bisexuals specifically experience, and especially if you think bisexuals hold any privilege for their sexuality. you are not culturally queer. If you don’t understand why bisexuals take issue with someone refusing to date us SPECIFICALLY for bigoted or ignorant reasons, you are not culturally queer. If you haven’t bothered to engage with the literature or theory about one of the largest contingents of the LGBTQ+ community, you are not culturally queer.

[liquidpaperfoundation1]

"rejecting tma/tme as a framework is like saying that gay is a useless label because straight men can face homophobia"

no it's more like if you categorized people as "homophobia affected" and "homophobia exempt" and called bisexuals, pansexuals, straight GNC people, asexuals, etc "homophobia exempt" for not being homosexuals, regardless of whether or not they experienced homophobia in their lives, and then concluded that they had "homophobia exempt privilege" for not being homosexuals and denied the idea that any sexuality other than homosexual could be oppressed on its own for reasons other than misdirected homophobia.

Oh wait. We did this. It was the ace discourse and the bi discourse and the pan discourse. Yesterday's "straight passing bisexuals" are today's "cissexual theyfabs". Yesterday's "same gender attraction" is today's "transmisogyny affected". Yesterday's "aphobia isn't real because etymologically it means the absence of a phobia" is today's "transandrophobia isn't real because it implies the existence of systemic androphobia".

[emeldiir]

I saw a post from someone who was talking about how lesbians and bisexual sapphics have differences in what they are, not what they do, for example both lesbians and bisexual sapphics dating women and other sapphics is something we do together, but they then went on to talk about how a bi woman in a relationship with a straight man is not as queer as sapphics who are living within ‘queer relationships’

and while it is true to a degree that society has differences in how they treat and react to different types of relationships, i have to wonder, do you guys think that cis bi woman in relationships with straight men cannot have meaningful and DISGUSTINGLY queer lives (/pos) simply bc of their proximity to a straight man???

do you think these bi women cannot go out and participate in queer culture because of their man?? do you think that bi woman are chained into the position of lesser queer bc they have a straight male for a partner??? do you think that they cannot contribute to the health and well-being of queer communities??

the person who posted the original post which got me thinking about this also stated that it’s ’less a bi woman makes a relationship queer, and more a straight man makes the relationship straight’ and i cannot tell you how fucking upsetting it is to see the resurgence of this rhetoric, bc this is what gets bi women abused and killed.

our oppression as the bisexual community is not hinged on or limited to who we fucking date or how we present to society and i’m so tired of people assuming our queerness is based on the gender and orientation of our partners.