#byler doubt

[jason-todd-loverr]

[shizukuzukishima]

THE WORLD IS HEALING

[nobylerdoubt]

No one is "setting themselves up for disappointment"

No one is "queerbaiting themselves"

We didnt make this up.

It's in the show.

[ibrakeforrainbows]

if byler isn’t endgame all the shame and embarrassment is on the writers btw not us. we were just picking up what they were putting down.

[sticklystag]

jonathan helping will get what he wants. robin mentoring more than one person. mike’s emotional monologue. will being an unreliable narrator when it comes to mike. noah had the most scenes with finn. robin and mike being closer in ep7. the painting will “pay off”. mil*ven still dust. “friends don’t lie”. robin saying by coming out to steve she had the courage to open up to vickie. will coming out. byler field scene vs jopper field scene. finn carrying emotional weight. mike realizing that will was talking about him. there’s a plot twist in the finale. still no direct denying of byler. will still having hope in shock joke. avalanche metaphor. will convinced himself that mike is his tammy. vickie and mike parallels. mike being the one to interrupt joyce and will. still no confirmation that mil*ven is together. mike liking the butthole surfers—a band named after an offensive term for homosexual men. mike robin and jonathan funko pops being arranged near each other. the duffers saying the show was made to be analyzed. hap-satisfied. how obvious?. the writers favorite ship being korrasami who got together in the finale. mike’s pov is still hidden. will’s feelings for mike are still a secret. mike keeps bringing up the entire party. mike and will being considered a pair this season. mike is now aware of will’s sexuality. “how did you know that vickie wanted to date?” and “after this tammy and this whole tape epiphany, is that when you and vickie started to?”. jancy’s s4 issues being brought up again giving space for the painting to show up. the finale has the most character moments and the most emotion. IT’S NOT OVER TILL IT’S OVER!!

[fatfatgaybitch]

My personal favorite Byler Proofs that keep me believing that might help others with doubt as well:

EDIT: post V1 S5😝

- The difference of Mike calling El a superhero versus calling Will a sorcerer. Will won—El didn’t.

- Elmike rooftop scene discussing the happily ever after of the whole party, rather than secluding themselves like all the other couples have done when they make plans.

- Mike called El a superhero because of her powers. Will became a superhero because Mike said he had the potential to become one.

- “I knew right then and there that she was the one” —Robin regarding Tammy—“I knew right then and there that I loved you”—Mike to El.

- Mike returning to referring to El as Eleven…whilst Hop called her Jane.

- Will thought of meeting Mike first to restore his self-love and find powers because Mike made him feel loved. Like he wasn’t a mistake one might say…

- Mike in danger is the last thing Will sees before activating his powers—and the first thing he sees when he does activate them.

- Before we see Will being sexy and aura farming—the camera pans to Mike looking at the demogorgan—then back at the demogorgan as if we are seeing through Mike’s eyes, and then the camera pans towards Will. Showing how Mike sees Will.

- The look of absolute pride and love that Mike gives Will after Will snapped all of the demogorgan bones—versus Joyce being terrified of and for her son.

- Mike don’t gaf that El is in the Upside Down😭🙏and not that it is the same situation but it’s a vast comparison from his need to find and save Will in season 1–not to mention she went into the UD to find his sister.

- Lucas talks more about El and more highly of her than Mike does.

- The same flowers Mike gifts to El in 4x02 are the dead flowers that El holds up in the last moments of 4x09 and now at the beginning of 5x01 when Vickie is throwing away more dead yellow and purple flowers.

- “We’re hoping this emotional arc for Will is what ties this whole series together” -The Duffers

- “The show is to empower outcasts” -Shawn Levy, The Duffers, Millie Bobby Brown, Noah Schnapp, Gaten Ma- I could go on.

- “You could never really tell if it was something romantic or just a special friendship” -Noah Schnapp on Mike and Will’s friendship at a Comic Con

- “Mike goes on a journey this season…” -Cara Buono following Schnapp’s words from the bullet point above.

- Midleven kiss at the end of S3.

- “They [Mike and El] have such different paths in life” -Finn Wolfhard on Mike and El’s relationship

- “Does he still see her as just the superhero?” -Millie Bobby Brown (2022 or 2023) saying her favorite Midleven scene was their fight over “From, Mike” with Sarah D. (Forgot her last name, she’s the hair stylist for the show)

- Mike’s behavior in the airport scene.

- Mike and Will’s Rink o’ Mania fight, specifically Mike saying Will not having a good time or smiling was what sabotaged the day, and not El being severely bullied and humiliated.

- Will’s feelings were what made Mike confident, and they are the reason for Leader Mike’s return in season 5–only Will disguised those feelings as El’s.

- Mike being paralleled to Brenner and Hopper. Especially Brenner.

^would love to put every single parallel on this list but that’ll take too long LMAO

- No midleven scene post the ‘love’ monologue in season 4, and instead we get confirmation that El didn’t talk much to Mike for two days after it on their way to Hawkins.

- Mike’s arc has been failing to please El for two seasons straight whereas she is able to forget Mike for the majority of her seasons.

- Familial Parallels. Obviously. And ew.

- Will was the one to push Mike to say he loves El, and Mike still hesitated, as well as lied about experiencing love at first sight.

- ‘The Heart’ being constantly associated with Mike’s character, tying him directly to Will’s love for him. Every time they say it, it is tied to the ship.

- Mike and El, although unintentional, continue to hurt each other and make one another feel inferior and less than.

- “Maybe I was worrying too much about El” To Will, after El was severely bullied and then taken away to a top secret location to get her powers back. Like dude.

- Final shot of season 4, and jancy, jopper and byler being coupled together.

- “We ask Finn to carry a lot of weight, we ask Noah to carry a lot of critical emotional content” -Shawn Levy at the ST5 LA Premiere.

(Will add more later when I think of them)

[the-solar-system-stars]

my mom: stop crying its just a tv show

the show in question:

*the traumatized gay character is forced by his abuser to come out to like 20 people as they ignore him while he cries and he reduces the love of his life to just a silly hallway crush as said person just blankly stares at him and doesn't react*

[getlostboys]

"he was just my tammy"

are we being fucking serious???

robin didn't even KNOW tammy properly and got over her so fast. WILL HAS BEEN BEST FRIENDS WITH MIKE SINCE KINDERGARTEN AND HAS LOVED HIM HIS WHOLE LIFE.

sure duffers, let's compare a fleeting crush to a soul-crushing, deep, lifelong connection

i cannottttt deal with this straight bullshit no more