Spoiler: MLQC Ch 16 Discussion
As I’ve mentioned in a previous post, I am completely caught up with the CN server chapters. So I’ve read Ch 16 in CN before and this discussion will be a combination of my reaction from when I first read the chapter in CN and reading it again now in EN.
First of all, can I just say how HOT Lucien is when he’s making that evil face???
PG! Please draw more HOT LUCIEN EVIL EXPRESSIONS!
Gee... if only he makes those evil faces all the time, he’d climb to be my #2 (ok, he’ll fall to #3 after a couple more chapters, but still, he’ll be higher ranked than Victor and Kiro in my books...)
Ok, back to proper chapter discussion. When I first read this chapter, I really thought it would be a redemption arc for Lucien. Him sacrificing himself, risking his own death just to get MC to safety. I was so moved when he told MC to run to the exit and leave the dream world when he stayed behind and got, seemingly, critically injured without a good chance of winning against Hades.
Considering I’m not a Lucien fan, I never read many of his dates. I did read some of them for the purpose of understanding his character better so that I can write his fanfic without going too out of character, but I certainly did not read the majority of them. Therefore, my knowledge of Lucien is mostly from what was shown in the main storyline.
Therefore, I had always had doubts about Lucien’s feelings towards MC. No doubt he liked her, but how real, how deep were his feelings? Did he really love her? What was he willing to sacrifice for her?
These weren’t very clear to me when I first read Ch 16. Unlike the other 3 boys, his true feelings were never clear in the main storyline. We know Gavin would die for MC. He’s been shown to do that many times in the main storyline. We know that Kiro was also willing to sacrifice himself to save MC, as shown in Ch 14. We know Victor’s feelings run deep for MC as he is willing to do many things against his better judgment for her, even though he is a man of logic and practicality.
However, Lucien never really did these things clearly, at least not in the main storyline. Even in the few dates I read, they weren’t clear. It’s not due to poor storytelling, of course, his character is meant to be ambiguous. Of course, Lucien stans would say that they see his feelings for MC clear as day. But as a non-fan, I wasn’t so sure. There were too many manipulations, too many calculations in Lucien’s relationship with MC.
I’m the type of person who starts off trusting everyone around me. However, once someone proves to have lied (I’m talking about material lies, not little white lies that have no consequences) to or manipulated me, it takes a lot for me to forgive them and I would probably never trust them ever again.
Therefore, it would take a lot for Lucien to get into my good books (not that I trusted him ever since his first appearance in the story). So maybe I’m just difficult to satisfy in this “redemption arc” if this chapter is meant to be that. Or maybe, I’m just begging to see the “real” Lucien. A Lucien that would treat MC properly, without manipulation or calculation.
So when I saw him trapping his enemies with him so that MC can escape, I was moved. I was so happy to see him finally openly showing how deep his feelings run and that he was willing to truly make sacrifices for MC. However, that was all destroyed when he revealed that he was risking nothing at all.
From the point that he took her out of the room in the dream Hades weaved, they were no longer in Hades’ dream, where if you die in the dream, you actually die (or you get stuck). They were actually in Lucien’s dream, where if you die in the dream, you escape from the dream. Therefore, when he told MC to run while he held back the enemies, he knew he was never at risk. If MC runs through the exit, she leaves the dream. If he dies in that dream, he also escapes the dream. He wasn’t really sacrificing himself to save MC.
He was protecting her from harm or the feeling of dying. But he wasn’t sacrificing much, if anything, for MC’s safety.
I was disappointed. If this was PG’s way of writing Lucien’s redemption arc, they’ve done him dirty!
Did this chapter convince me of his true feelings for MC? Yes, it did. Did this chapter make me want to forgive him for manipulating MC and all the other terrible things he did (for example, making the flu virus in the first place)? No, it did not.
Yes, this entire manipulation and calculation were very within his character, very Lucien. But it redeemed nothing. At least not for a non-fan of Lucien. It was just more lies, more manipulation.
I had this discussion on the Thots of MLQC discord server and some think that Lucien telling her that it was his plan all along was just bravado. But I disagree. I don’t think he planned to be trapped by Hades in his dream, but he certainly planned to “die” in the dream to escape. After all, when he exited the initial room with MC, he did somehow transported all of them into his own dream, where people escape when they die. He was quick to think on his feet (after all, Luci is a genius) and he was quick to make up the plan. So I don’t think there was any bravado there.
I feel like for Lucien to have a successful redemption arc (at least in my books), there will have to be a situation where he has no hopes of planning for all contingencies. Or a situation where he knows he has very little chance of winning, yet, he completely risks himself to ensure MC’s safety or to help achieve MC’s goals. And his goal would have nothing to do with trying to stay on top.
There is no doubt that Lucien has changed since he met MC. However, due to his characterization, his long term endgame will always be to come out on top. Therefore, it is important, imo, to see him throw all his instincts and calculations away, and just give.
Wow... that was a long rant... and I didn’t even comment on the first half of the chapter at all. Oh well...
Ok, I can see Lucien stans coming at me with a machete now. LOL Let me know what you guys think of this chapter, Lucien stan or not. Did you think this was PG’s attempt at a redemption arc for Lucien? Did Lucien redeem himself for you? Or do you think his actual redemption arc is still yet to come?