#dual protagonists

[scraftyisthebest]

Pokemon 2019/Journeys and 2023/Horizons OST covers, both featuring the dual protagonists of their respective series.

From Ash and Goh in Journeys to Liko and Roy in Horizons.

[wordshaveteeth]

The thing to keep in mind when you’re considering dual protagonists is that you’ll then need to unearth each protagonist’s third rail—their internal struggle—which will ultimately dovetail to make a single, potent point.

- Lisa Cron, Story Genius: How to Use Brain Science to Go Beyond Outlining and Write a Riveting Novel (Before You Waste Three Years Writing 327 Pages That Go Nowhere)

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[stuff-of-legends]

6 desires for Persona 6.

An animal sidekick out of mythology.

a more dynamic role for the Velvet room beyond eccentric strangers.

Two protagonists- fraternal twins.

A better usage of the older game elements/characters/plot than odd absence.

A better approach to the spinoffs than half-baked filler of the Q games and rereleases. Something more like the FF7 compilation and the Digimon adventure anime would be great.

A combo of Action rpg and turn based mechanics like metaphor refantiazo would be great.

[strangertheory]

Stranger Things thought of the day (and I already anticipate many disagreeing with me but I stand by this assertion of my opinion firmly for a number of reasons) :

Will and El are the dual protagonists of Stranger Things. Mike is the deuteragonist (in his case, he is at this point a "love interest" deuteragonist as well as a dear friend) of their story. And all other characters are still very important but still predominantly serving as supporting characters, NOT because they have any less importance as individuals but specifically because we are not following their point of view. We are most often following the journey of Will and El. This is their story.

Structurally, the writers have been alternating their focus between El's experiences and Will's from season to season.

Season 1: El was at the forefront

Season 2: Will was at the forefront

Season 3: El was at the forefront

Season 4: many official sources have been implying or outright stating that season 4 is "Will season." I expect season 4 to focus heavily on Will's journey while still expanding upon El's too.

And I suspect that the way in which Will and El are important in each other's lives will be explored further in season 4, especially now that they are living together.

I look forward to the next part of their journey together, and I hope they have safety and happiness and love in their future once they make it through the horrors they are facing. ♡

[sometimesrosy]

Can you people stan twitter is fighting over whether Octavia is a main protagonist (same level as C&B) or not ... I guess this hiatus is too quiet and people need something to argue about lol

Oh they are?  I was just over there looking at the sharpie scandal. I don’t get much stan stuff anymore.

No. Octavia is not a main protagonist. That’s why in all the seasons, the finale is never led by HER, but she’s a part of the team, whereas Clarke and Bellamy are the ones saving the day and leading people. Clarke is the main hero. Bellamy is the secondary hero. They are dual protagonists. 

She is a very important secondary character and was an antagonist in season 5, which made her more important to the storyline, but not as a main character... as an ANTAGONIST. 

She might very well turn into the hero at the end of the show, where The 100 is the story of the heroes Clarke and Bellamy and how they got Octavia to the point where she could lead humanity going forward. But that would still make The 100 ABOUT Clarke and Bellamy, as the protagonists, the ones who ACT upon the narrative and move the plot forward. Octavia tends to be reactor, as she responds to the story rather than leading it. If she ends up leading at the series finale, it would be because Clarke and Bellamy saved humanity, saved Octavia, and saved her soul. 

I’ve often said that Clarke, Bellamy and Octavia are a trinity, and I still believe that, The head, the heart and the soul... but the soul, in this story of the end of humanity and the question about whether humanity is worth saving... is stained and broken. Octavia often represents humanity to me. And yet. Clarke and Bellamy are STILL the heroes and it’s humanity that’s in need of saving. Not that humanity can’t kill, destroy, protect and defend. But that humanity is ill and blackened by evil. Humanity needs to be REDEEMED, and it’s Clarke and Bellamy who make the choice and guide that redemption. The goal is to redeem and save humanity. Which makes humanity, and the soul, and Octavia the object to be acted upon, not the subject of the story. 

Most of the important characters have a story arc that could carry their own narrative. Octavia is one of the most important and we can see her developing, we can see her OWN story, but her personal story actually moved away from the main story for a lot of the show.

IDK. I don’t like stanning as an intellectual or even emotional way to understand a story. It creates a bias in your interpretation where you have to make your fave WIN and others lose. It makes your faves into “the good guys” and everyone else into the bad guys and they can’t be wrong and you can’t be wrong.

This season, Octavia disappeared for big parts of the story to go off on a side journey, much like Murphy in season 2 and 3. I didn’t hear anyone saying that Murphy was the protagonist. Nah. That’s standom talking. Rather than trying to understand what the story is for the character, what the narrative is trying to say as a whole, standom minimizes the actual story and maximizes the importance of faves. Because that’s what they like and those are their faves and that is their stated bias.

She might have a bigger role in season 7 now that she’s given up her selfish immaturity of all 6 seasons. But we’re still seeing how what happens to Octavia is about BELLAMY not her. It’s moving Bellamy’s story forward and thus the rest of the narrative, which makes her a secondary character. Honestly I think the only time she counted as a main was when she was the main antagonist with wonkru, which still doesn’t make her a protagonist. ANTAGONIST. In season 6, she had a big part with the anomaly, but that was not the man story line, it was the subplot. A mystery that was not solved, and yes, a way for her to face her demons and win her brother’s love back... that’s how we knew she was reaching her redemption, not her actions, tbh, but BELLAMY’S response to her reactions. Nope. Sorry, even as an antagonist, her character development was ALL about Bellamy and Bellamy’s approval. Secondary. Maybe the goal. But still not the hero. Not a protagonist. Season 6 and 7 was about Bellamy getting his sister back, and she had to make changes in order to do so. 

She was the hero of the conclave, not the hero of the story. She is a heroic character, not the protagonist. She shares some similarities with the YA hero and the tragic hero and the fallen hero turned to the darkside like anakin. If you take her story out of The 100 narrative you can see it. However, she’s still not the protagonist of The 100, not even one of them. No more than the whole TEAM is necessary to the success of the show. They never beat their villains unless the whole team is working together, but it’s Clarke and Bellamy who bring the team together. 

If we use the longstanding metaphor of a chess game, Clarke and Bellamy are the queen and king, the most powerful character and the most important character. Octavia is a knight. Secondary. Important. Valuable. Game changing. Powerful. But not the center of the story.  In season 5 she was perhaps the other, opposing Queen/King. In a three sided chess game. But she can’t succeed unless she is back on Bellamy’s team. Hmm. 

I feel like the whole question of what and who a hero is is very complicated because there are many ways to look at the word “hero” and you can see Octavia as “heroic,” but that is not the same as the “hero of the story” aka “protagonist.” 

I also feel like I’m super tired of having the conversation where people keep trying to either erase or reduce the heroes of the show, the protagonists, Clarke and Bellamy, in order to make their faves more important. First with Lxa, who was CLEARLY not the protagonist for MULTIPLE reasons, despite the ENTIRE fandom getting behind the talking point that “they made her look pretty so therefore Lxa is the new hero.” Then we’ve had the factions who raise Clarke up and make Bellamy the villain. Or raise Bellamy up and are OFFENDED that Clarke is the hero. Or raise Bellamy up and make Clarke the villain. Or decide that because B/E is a canon ship, that means that ECHO is the new hero of the show because THAT IS NOT HOW PROTAGONISTS WORK YOU NIMRODS. 

I mean when this season started and people were MAD that the story was ABOUT Clarke, I just. Do you not understand Top Billing? Or the posters? WITH CLARKE’S FACE. Or who is telling the story? Or whose story is being told? Or how stories work?

i’m sorry i get frustrated. it’s like no one’s taken a language arts course before. 

it’s okay. Sure why not make Octavia the protagonist. That’s what you want to see. So let’s do it. Let’s just draw a sharpie on it and make whoever we want to be the protagonist.

we live in a time where all you need for a fact is a stubborn insistence that you are right, a disregard for external reality, and a sharpie. every opinion is equally valid, right? facts and canon don’t matter. 

[scraftyisthebest]

Whether it be battling with one another, side by side, or against one another, trying to win against the other, when you are of the same mind, same passion, both giving it all you've got, you will truly feel the sheer thrill and passion of a Pokémon battle.

[sometimesrosy]

Rewatching S3 and i think I had blocked out of mind the first half of the season. Bellamy's storyline is just so heartwrenching. And I think I blocked out the fandom reaction back then too lol, with people being angry about his character's turn after being a hero in S2. I do get him, many of his people died, Gina died, Clarke left him. But I am thinking that maybe they did that so that him and Clarke could be on an equal level going forward...? ... 1/2

In S1, he threw away the radio, she pulled the lever. In S2, they pulled the Mt Weather lever together, but she had TONDC … so then he had the massacre in S3. So then when they found each other again, they had both done a somewhat equal amount of terrible things for their people. I don’t know, might be reading too much into it. And I think in S3B, is when they realised the real true need they have for each other, for their soul, or maybe they still didn’t lol…? 2/2

I actually think that Bellamy and Clarke have not only always had parallel hero’s stories, but their hero’s trajectories have gone on divergent arcs. It’s not JUST that they wanted to keep the death count even, although I think that was an element. Or even the love interest count. Their individual hero’s journeys and character arcs are not only influenced by the other, but also hold a mirror up to the other. They are the “equal and opposite reaction.” 

Clarke and Bellamy’s paths through the story, their traumas and their heroism, their strengths and weaknesses show the shadow side of each other, but they also spiral around each other, heading in the same direction, like a double helix. They are heroes.

Clarke started out the golden princess, always right, while Bellamy was the selfish ass, fundamentally wrong. Season 1 brought them together, tempering Bellamy’s wrongness with a new understanding of the situation and by playing on his protective big brother urges. While Clarke’s princess tendencies were tempered by the need for her to get her hands dirty and put her money where her mouth was. When they come together, they bring their people together, too, pulling on all their different skills and abilities to save them all.

Season 2 had them both being heroes, but in their own particular direction. It starts with Bellamy looking for his kidnapped people and Clarke looking to escape from her kidnap/people. When they come together, they have new plans, new solutions, and lead the story. Then Bellamy goes into the mountain, the epitome of his previous heroic chart, the savior of his kids, and Clarke becomes a leader among the enemies, defeating the evil. What they had to do here, due to double crosses and betrayals traumatized them.

So in season 3, they both refused their leadership, and Bellamy became a follower and Clarke refused her people completely, BUT, as their individual traumas were triggered, they were forced to step back into the fray and CHOOSE. Again, they returned to their previous tactics, Bellamy as spy and assassin, Clarke as distant princess. They both, in this seasons, were offered the chance to give up their power and their free will to another leader. To let someone ELSE make the decisions. And both of them chose to step up instead, because, well, the other leaders were doing the wrong thing and they needed to save their people. 

Season 4 we had even more development of their internal traumas and strengths and weaknesses, as Clarke was faced with JUST HOW CLOSE TO THE LINE OF EVIL SHE WOULD GO. And Bellamy had to face the pain of loss and horror, of responsibility, and learn how to let people go, learn how to stand up when someone he cared for did something wrong, trust his own wisdom and his own power to change the story. 

So in season 5. Both Clarke and Bellamy had spent the 6 years developing those trajectories and healing the traumas. And due to the influence of one another, even while separated, they took the best qualities from the other. BELLAMY learned how to forgive, learned how to slow down and consider his actions outside of his feelings, While Clarke, in her isolation, never was able to quite move past internalizing Bellamy’s leading with his heart, and incorporating it into her own leading with her head. She went too far in the other direction. BELLAMY incorporated her lessons, becoming a holistic leader AND hero who ended up saving the day and all of humanity, according to what Clarke, who Clarke REALLY is, would have done. So, what we have in season 5 is Bellamy realizing the full hero’s journey arc and coming back from his trials and tribulations a changed man, BREAKING the cycle of violence, and transforming the world around him.

This means that Bellamy’s hero’s journey has actually lasted FIVE WHOLE YEARS. When I first started doing meta it was s3, and I fully expected the hero’s journey to be complete after that one season, and I just kept being left hanging. It wasn’t done. Because it’s a long term story.

CLARKE still has to complete her hero’s journey. Remember that she is also on a similar, parallel hero’s journey. She mirrors his journey, but the flip side of it. Because they started out in opposite places, their journeys have shown the shadow side of the other’s struggles and lessons. 

In season 5, Clarke DIDN’T save anyone (except for Octavia, interestingly enough.) It was ALL Bellamy. Clarke was the POV character of the story, she was the main character, and her actions moved the plot forward, but as for who saved the day? It was Bellamy, all the way up until when Clarke sent Echo to go save Bellamy, and THEN we have Clarke becoming a hero again. It was only when she stopped resisting who she was, who she used to be, and BELLAMY that things started working again. Only when they worked together that they could succeed. So the day was one, Bellamy was the hero, they were reunited for real and fully.

In season 6, we’ll see Clarke finish her hero’s journey, as Bellamy helps her remember what it means to be the good guy, because that was HER in season 1, and she taught him how to be the good guy, and now he is going to lead her back home. I think this is one of the purposes of having a dual protagonist, or a leadership system where you have someone there to back you up, to call you on it when you go to far, and to remind you the purpose of it all and who you really are. In their spiraling double helix hero’s journey, Bellamy has become who she always believed he could be, BECAUSE of Clarke. Now Clarke has to follow Bellamy to embrace her full powers as hero, and become her own holistic leader, and as Bellamy has broken the cycle, Clarke will lead humanity into a BETTER WORLD. 

There is definitely a pattern in Clarke and Bellamy’s stories. It is about being a leader, about being the good guy, about balancing the light and the dark, about being together, about understanding the dark side, about staying true to yourself, about facing your fears and traumas. They are a paired, mythic set of heroes, and it is TOGETHER that they can change the world.