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“I will always find my way back to you my dear”
That’s the last thing Loki said to me before he disappeared from the earth all those years ago. Most of the time I can manage to not think about him, at least now, before it was almost too much to bear. Even with being for the most part over it all, the hope of him ever coming back so far from reality, I’ve found myself thinking back to him much more often as of recent. Things I once would simply glance over now caused a cascade of emotions to flow through me.
I thought I was starting to go absolutely mad by all of it, these things seemed to be popping up more and more as I attempted to go about my day. Everyone around me saw the things too, which helped, but they didn’t think of the god of mischief when they saw it. They didn’t even shed a simple emotion towards them, somehow I felt so completely alone yet surrounded by the lost asgardian.
Granted, I thought the last asgardian was a simple figure of speech I used in my head just to describe the situation to no one in particular. That was until I saw a flash of light outside of my apartment, one that looked exactly like when he left. In a moment of exhaustion and disbelief that I hadn’t felt in ages I ran to it, not even bothering to grab shoes, I just ran.
It took ages to get there, stumbling through and over rocks, nearly tripping over countless sticks, and I could have sworn that I saw at least twenty frogs on my way there. All of that, every day for the past four years, only for there to be no asgardian god where the light flashed minutes before. Only a flower with a small note attached to it, green of course, but one I had never seen before, or at least on this planet.
The note was obviously rushed, the edges ripped and they held an almost burned state to them. The letters almost combined together in the scrawl that was far from his normal writing. Yet, something within me knew it was his, so much so that I instantly sunk to the ground when I read it, the rocks scrapping my knees not even causing me to flinch with his words.
“I am so sorry I was the lost Asgardian to you my love, but it seems it must stay that way. Possibly in another life since I’m sadly not making it out of this one. Please just promis-”
OH MY FUCKING GOD. IT IS FINALLY HAPPENING AND I CAN'T WAIT!!!! ARGHHHH
Loki is back!!!!!!! Just thinking of all the chaos 2012 Loki can cause takes me to cloud nine. But I am also left wondering if marvel plans on doing right and good to his mistaken, hurt soul or if they are further going to ruin his character arc in the name of fun. Hopefully we will have amazing development of Loki and a lot of great, eye candy stuff from Tom Hiddleston 😍🤩❤️.
so tony, steve and scott go back to the first avengers movie to retrieve the tesseract. What happens is that when Tony got a hold of the cube, Hulk suddenly appears out of nowhere, making Tony fall and the Tesseract fell from the case. It landed on Loki’s feet, he takes it and escapes. Tony and Steve decides to go to the year 1970 and take the cube from Howard Stark. They were successful. They return the tesseract in the end. My theory is, the past has already been rewritten. Meaning things happened differently in that time. So, Loki escapes that timeline with the cube. Considering nothing changes since they returned it back. I’m not sure whether 2012 Loki is aware of what’s going to happen in the future. I think IW Loki is dead, and 2012 Loki is alive which makes up the plot of the tv series since the plot says that he will go to historical events, he has the space stone with him so he can go about anywhere he wants. Again, this is just a theory. But I strongly believe that 2012 Loki is out there.
My Very Spoilery Endgame Review - What I Liked, What Annoyed Me, and Two Questions I Am Left With
I was very satisfied and enjoyed it very much. The theater burst into applause in several instances and it was great to celebrate the end of an era with fellow fans.
Now for the spoilery critiques and praise.
My favorite moments were:
Thor reconciling his self-image and self-worth with his mother
“I’m still worthy.”
Loki escaping and (hopefully) living in at least one timeline - because if Steve went back to “trim the branches” then this means he returned the Tesseract to 1970. Which means the branch where Loki snagged the Tesseract and was not imprisoned on Asgard may have endured*.
Ken Jeong’s cameo.
Stan Lee’s cameo.
Banner coming to terms with who and what he is and living comfortably with the Hulk.
Basically everyone really leaning into the self-love and self-value by the end of the film.
“That is America’s Ass”.
“I could do this all day.” “Yeah, I know.”
“How can I? You’re taking all the stupid with you.”
“Ha! I knew it!”
“I am Iron Man.”
Scott finding Cassie alive.
Wong’s exasperated reply to Strange’s “Is that everyone?”
Nebula’s redemption. This is a princess (as Squidward calls Thanos “sire”) who saves her own damn self.
How the thing that gave the game away to Thanos was actually really clever and well executed; this wasn’t a “heroes are just stupid this one time” (like how Quill screwed the pooch in Infinity War when they had the damn glove). It was something that I genuinely hadn’t thought of, and I assume no one, not even Nebula, would have thought of. It worked. And it worked well.
All the ladies supporting Carol in the final battle - which was awesome but also felt a bit like the moment was added only so the Russos could check it off a “don’t piss off the feminists” list.
How the final battle set it up well for the next phase - I liked how the Glove Relay was from an OG Avenger (Hawkeye) to the new Avengers - Black Panther, Spider-man, and Captain Marvel.
“I love you 3000″.
Falcon!Cap - finally! Yay!
The sound of the armor that started it all being forged as the endcap of the credits.
However.
I wish Bucky and Steve had also had a meaningful moment at the end, like Steve and Sam, something that made it clear that even though Steve was older now, he was no less Bucky’s best pal.
I'm very, very annoyed that they Fridged Natasha. I mean, I get it. Someone had to die. And we all knew Hawkeye was going to go back to his family, so it wouldn’t be him. And I do love how they did the death, how Nat and Clint fought with one another to the be the one to make the sacrifice. And her death would have been especially cheap if Bruce had just Snapped her Back. I get it.
And if there wasn’t a long history of Fridging female character to ensure the male ones have enough Man-Pain to have a character arc and impetus to be a hero, then you know what? This would have been a really moving sacrifice. It would have really worked.
But there is. And in light of that, it’s left me... itchy. Uncomfortable. Because in the context of the film alone it was a great death. But in the context of the history of comic book narratives, it sucked.
Also, what does this mean for the Black Widow movie? Will it actually be a prequel? Will it be Budapest? And if it is Budapest, will they use the same actors, or cast new, younger ones?
I also don't understand the narrative reason why they had to make so many fat jokes around Thor.
I mean, yeah, it makes sense he was depressed and stopped taking care of his heath, and self-medicated with booze and food. This was a strong and meaningful narrative and I really liked that he was given the opportunity to mourn, to question his purpose, to become more than just muscles and a hammer in terms of character construction. That he could grieve and struggle, and be filled with crippling regret that kept him indoors and hiding, and filled self-loathing.
As a character choice it made sense. And I liked that he was still a powerful warrior while chubby, and that he didn’t magically become slim again when he suited up. It was wonderful to see him be no less powerful, dangerous, dedicated, and no less kick ass while sporting a keg instead of a sixpack.
But they leaned awfully hard on that “fat joke” button and by the time Rhodey said “Cheez Whiz?” I was over it. Its got tedious and frankly a bit insulting.
Teasing someone for suffering because he lost literally everyone he loved is not cool. The jokes fell flat, for good reason. They were cruel.
And when the Russos announced that they had included the MCU's first openly gay character I was hoping that it would be a main character, not some rando dude in a talk therapy meeting. I wanted Bucky and Sam to confess feelings, or Bucky to Steve even if Steve couldn’t return them, or Valkyrie to at least have a wife in New Asgard, or something.
But TBH it didn't surprise me that they made it some nameless dude in group support. Like J.K. Rowling, the Russos are happy to queerbait but too cowardly to commit, and they always have been. I’d be annoyed but it’s not worth the energy.
At least when the guy mentioned his boyfriend it was a “no big deal” mention, and nobody made a “are you cool with this, Cap?” thing to really point out that ooooo, this dude is queer.
But those are my only gripes. The rest of it was thoroughly enjoyable and satisfying.
Especially all the little call backs. The "I am Iron Man" and “I could do this all day” stuff - it felt like little gifts to the fandom.
However, I have two questions.
1) When people were Snapped Back, were they Snapped to their previous exact geographical location? Because if so, what about people who had been in transit? Did people who were Snapped Away while in a plane just... appear mid-sky and plummet to their deaths? Were people on spaceships Snapped Back into the void of cold space? We saw in Infinity War that helicopters crashed into city streets - the pilot, that means, was Snapped Away. When that pilot came back, where did he come back? Did Bruce think to Snap them all into safe places? (I mean, I assume the Stones accounted for Spacial Drift and the location of planets in orbit... maybe it accounted for people who would have Snapped Back into deadly situations?)
2) I do love that Steve and Peggy got their life together At that point Pegs would have been like... at least 10 years older than Steve? Maybe 15? What would her neighbors think of Sugar Momma Peggy Carter and her Very Much Younger (Looking) Husband?
Did she introduce him to anyone? Did they have neighborhood BBQs? At that point everyone would have known who Captain America/Steve Rogers was so did no one recognize him? What did they say? (Did we get Beardy Steve back???) They had kids, canonically, so was Steve able to attend their T-BAll games and school plays?
One assumes that Sugar Baby Steve would have been the House Husband, because Pegs was running Shield and Steve was out of the game. He’d never be able to show his face at SHIELD because Howard would recognize him, and so would Arnim Zola, so HYDRA would have known that Captain America survived and I imagine they would have given anything to get him into the Chair.
It makes me think that Sugar Baby House Husband Steve would have been very isolated and possibly lonely. Maybe he had a few neighbor friends, but can you image how torturous it must have been to live so privately? To know that Bucky was out there suffering and being tortured and brainwashed and that he couldn’t do anything about it? He couldn’t go save his best pal?
That Peggy could never bring him to the SHIELD Christmas party, to visit her new baby godson Anthony, never attend anything with him.
And it makes me think Steve had to vanish from her life right when his earlier self entered it so like... as soon as she started getting sick enough with Alzheimer's he had to leave.
Because that’s when younger Steve came into her life, and started visiting her in the nursing home.
But he had to abandon her when she needed him most, and that is very tragic. How did Steve reconcile that with himself? Especially with returning to a future where she was dead and his friends were alive and he didn’t need to be the Secret Sugar Baby House Husband any more?
All in all, it was very enjoyable and I will watch it again.
And I look forward to the FanFic.
* This means that Loki in that branch also likely did not participate in the battle against the Dark Elves. His character growth in that moment was likely delayed, but I believe he ultimately would have processed his extreme confusion, self-loathing, and hatred of his betrayal by his “family” Thor enough to join forces with him against the destruction of the universe when it mattered. Perhaps having the extra time to do so might have even served him better.
I don’t know if this means Odin chose to die and Hela was released, thus triggering the destruction of Asgard. I don’t know what this would have meant for Ragnarock - possibly with Odin as the King when he died the defenses would have been better (though I argue the culture and peace of Asgard thrived under Loki, especially with his dismantling of the Empire and the valuing of the Arts) and they would have saved Asgard or at least not lost so many.
And if Asgard had not survived, perhaps in this version something different may have happened, and Loki wouldn’t on the survivor ship. Perhaps he was on a different ship. Perhaps he wasn’t present for the battle at all and in a completely different part of the universe.
If he was elsewhere this means
a) The Asgardian survivors would have lived because Thanos wouldn’t have targeted the ship, and Thor would have been less self-loathing.
b) When Thanos found Loki with the Tesseract in this branch, it’s likely Loki was able to ingratiate himself to Thanos and gave the Stone to him without Thor there to tip his hand toward an immediate betrayal murder attempt. I subscribe to the theory that Loki was just as mind-controlled during The Avengers and the Battle of New York as Barton (though I wouldn’t call Loki totally innocent in everything) and that he had been suffering from extreme mental health issues following his unsuccessful attempted suicide. In this case, he would be willing to play the long game to get his revenge on his abuser Thanos.
Then, later, hopefully, he joins Thor’s side to save the universe against Thanos (as he did against the Dark Elves)- betraying Thanos and perhaps stopping the Snap before it happened in that timeline. Or if not stopping the Snap, perhaps being a part of the new Avengers if he survived it, or joining in the final battle if he was Snapped Away.
Anyway - I have lots of Loki Thoughts. Feel free to adopt any Plot Bunnies this may have generated in reading this.
Btw,this post is going to be about l o k i (obviously)
Before we start,I am not blaming nor mad at the Russo brothers. I am not saying that endgame is a bad movie, They did a good job making it and I'm happy for them. This is also my first time doing something like this so sorry about that. So after reading some theories about loki might be alive or his whereabouts which I will share my thoughts about. Firstly, There's the ending of loki permanently dead(along with my soul),but still died as a hero. Secondly, Where Loki is alive and making mischief with the tesseract. For my opinion honestly, I think we don't have a positive ending in both ways. Of course it's obvious why the first ending is negative. The second one is (again in my OPINION) also negative since yet he is alive, but his journey of trusting his brother is not there because of course, if he escaped ith the tesseract then he wouldn't go through all the things old loki experienced (no more thor 2 and ragnarok). His character development is gone. Now, I am not saying he's not capable of loving his brother or anyone for that matter. This talk is about Loki's journey, not his his capability of loving anyone ever again. I also hope you won't feel sad as I am writing this post right now. Positive things might happen, Who knows? Maybe in Loki's tv show? Thor 4? (seriously please let there be a loki in thor 4,i need thor 4). I don't know what's gonna happen next but I'll leave it to that. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Lots of Loki Love from me and I love you 3000.
