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Hab als einzige trans Person in einem gender studies Kurs kürzlich gesagt, dass ich das Akronym FLINTA nicht mag und FLINTA events vielfach genau aus dem Grund meide weil die organisator*innen könnten gleich so gut schreiben "nur menschen willkommen, die wir als non-threatening interpretieren und vage feminin aussehen" und sagen wirs mal so... Den cis 2. Semester studis hatts nicht so gefallen. :)
so that's life, huh? recovering from one fight - just to prepare for another.
well, that's rather disappointing.
@bruisedandbubbly
idk if this is a common thing but anyway-
im a part of this leftist community and once a month we have a FLINTA-Plenum. FLINTA is basically everyone except for cis men. trans men are allowed, non-binaries, intersex people, agender people are allowed. its supposed to be a safespace.
And most of all they're talking about feminism and stuff in there. Really cool. Until we talked about our experiences as a woman. And when i pointed out that i dont really feel like i have the right to say anything about that because I'm a man and I've been a man for the past 3-4 years, ive been a GIRL but never a woman, the person leading the event simply said "yes but sharing our experiences as women or in your case former woman is what this is for. you have to get comfortable enough to talk about it." which is just like- no. no i dont have to get "comfortable enough". Referring to me as a former woman makes me feel so dysphoric, talking about being treated like one makes me want to jump out of my body and rip my skin off. Excuse me for feeling like im invading a safe space because its supposed to be a space without men telling the nonmen about THEIR experiences. I am a man. and i hate it. when i told one of my friends at the organisation about me feeling very out of place there and asking if it would be okay if I'd go to the normal plenum or if that would be too awkward, he said "oh no you can go to FLINTA! You're a FLINTA person! it's not awkward for you to be there. Like thanks bro but I'm very uncomfortable there. and i tried it out, trust me, but i feel so much more comfortable being around men. and also it makes me feel so bad when people tell me im a FLINTA person because i know i am... rhe T stands for Trans after all, but to me its feeling like someone is saying "yes i KNOW youre a man.... but you're not like a real man yk you've not been a man forever so youre not a true man like the rest of us so ehh... you can go over there to the safespace that was made so nonmen are safe from men. i know youre a man but you dont count."
Very exciting, more pieces of my outfit for the Queer Woman Pride club party I've tickets to have arrived, I'm just waiting on a rainbow coloured mess top & it'll be complete
What do ye think?
trans and inter people: do you feel safe, included and welcome in FLINTA* spaces and under the FLINTA acronym?
yes, nonbinary/under the nonbinary umbrella (peri or intersex)
no, nonbinary/under the nonbinary umbrella (peri or intersex)
yes, trans man (peri or intersex)
no, trans man (peri or intersex)
yes, trans woman (peri or intersex)
no, trans woman (peri or intersex)
yes, intersex cis man
no, intersex cis man
yes, intersex cis woman
no, intersex cis woman
nuance/something else(tags?)
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*FLINTA is a German acronym that stands for Frauen, Lesben, Intergeschlechtlich, Nichtbinär, Trans, Ageschlechtlich - Translatable as: Women, Lesbians, Intersex, Nonbinary, Trans, Agender
English translations usually turn the woman part into female, which is a choice I personally dislike. Change the acronym if it doesn’t work in your language if you want to use it!
If you vote on this poll, it would be nice if you have experience with/had an understanding of the term prior to reading this post.
Side note beforehand:
I wish there were more than 12 answers possible. I would have added more combinations and options to best accommodate everyone. I would have also added an option for “complicated/nuanced answer” for every option. If you relate to multiple of the options, try choosing the one that you find most important to yourself and are comfortable with.
LGBT+ bar saying on the international women's day they celebrate everyone "FLINTA" while you're a trans man sitting in the audience
Dahomey. Directed by Mati Diop, 2024.
A short ramble on „feminist“ men:
You know the kind of men on socialmedia with the pearl necklaces who listen to Lana del Rey and stuff. I will never trust them, it’s just in my eyes performative. They know that flinta persons seek emotional support and validation in a partner (of course this is just my observation). They represent themself as emotional available and understanding while still for example having toxic speech patterns. This includes abruptly cutting the conversation when another man joins and so on. I’ve personally experienced a lot of different things while being in social circles with so called feminist men.
I don’t want you all to think I don’t believe they believe in feminism, but I’ve experienced that when they are confronted with something that they don’t agree with it they immediately mansplain it.
The whole „oh I listen to Lana del Rey and read only female authors“ is something that annoys me, they understand feminism but rather than to stand with us flinta persons they use the whole feminist picture as a way to look for a partner. While still not reflecting their behavior towards flinta persons.
I hope you all understand what I am saying, and I can understand that there are a lot of different opinions about this.
