#gotham rant

[i-like-shooting-oswald]

Can we just talk about how the Gotham writers killed off Tabitha in the first episode of this season not only to follow the tradition of burying their gays but also just so that they could force Barbara and Jim back together which literally no one wanted anyway

[alightabovethearbys]

I’m just so glad I haven’t enjoyed all the 3x19 episode stuff here yet ‘cos I can do that now and feel better. I’m disappointed, to put it mildly. Not just with Nygmobblepot, with a lot of things.

[finnysbookshelf]

ALSO JUST WANNA THROW IT OUT THERE THAT CORY IS AMAZING AND DOES NOT DESERVE ALL THE HATE HE IS GETTING RIGHT NOW PLEASE REEVALUATE YOUR LIFE IF YOU ARE SENDING HATE TO A SWEET, OPEN-MINDED, KIND-HEARTED ANGEL BECAUSE PEOPLE MISINTERPRETED WHAT HE HAS SAID

[lookatthecolor-blog1]

⚠️GOTHAM RANT⚠️

Okay, I'm about to get really pissed, so you've been warned. I've noticed that the Gotham fandom is really hard on one character in specific: Lee Thompkins. Now, here's the thing... Lee is played by a veteran actress of the big and small screen, Morena Baccarin, and her performance on Gotham is excellent. I don't think anyone can deny this. Lee is one of the only female characters on the show to hold a college degree (along with Valerie Vale and most likely, Kristin Kringle), and not just any degree, but a doctorate. She's one of the best educated characters on the show, male or female. She's up there with Lucius Fox and Hugo Strange. She has a wide variety of skills, from administering treatment to lab work to counseling. She has meaningful and dynamic relationships with other characters on the show, like Kristen (while she was alive), Bruce and Alfred, Harvey, Ed (while he worked at the GCPD) and of course, Jim. She's a woman of color who kicks ass. She has shown tremendous courage, tenacity, and intelligence throughout the course of the show, all while looking pretty darn good doing it. Hell, she's a character from the comics, and her very presence on the show has allowed Gotham to make a number of easter egg moments. But people choose to ignore ALL of this because they don't like her romantic relationship with Jim. I'm not asking you to ship them, but I am asking everyone to GET OVER IT. I've heard "But Lee and Jim are so on-and-off/dysfunctional/hetero/whatever." Okay, that's your opinion. There may be some merit to that, even if I don't see it. You may find her subplot annoying-that's okay, there are other specific subplots that I don't like on Gotham. BUT TO DISMISS AN IMPRESSIVE FEMALE CHARACTER, ONE OF THE VARIETY THAT IS SORELY LACKING IN TELEVISION TODAY, SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE HER ROMANTIC PAIRING IS NARROW-MINDED. There are flaws and holes in Lee's story... But there are flaws and holes in every character's story. Gotham is not a perfect show. Hell, at least they didn't bring Lee BACK FROM THE DEAD. You're pissed because Lee is still in love with Jim? Well, I'm pissed that characters can suddenly come back from the beyond. If Gotham gets cancelled, it will be because of crazy moves like that, not because Leslie Thompkins isn't over Jim Gordon. The Batman mythos has a history of on-again, off-again romances. Bruce and Selina (which we've already seen on the show... If you hate pairings that are inconsistent, you'd better hate them, too), Joker and Harley, and now, Jim and Lee. It's not anything new that we're seeing here. To summarize, the dismissal of the highly-impressive Dr. Leslie Thompkins based purely on her relationship with Jim is both narrow-minded and offensive, and you're wasting your energy hating on a small subplot when you could be worried about the far more ridiculous direction that Gotham is heading. After all, in the real world, people fall in love with their exes again, but people sure as hell don't come back from the dead.

[killrqueen7]

I’m not upset about Nygmobblepot so much as I am about Oswald’s possible and incredibly unnecessary death. I cannot imagine Gotham without its Penguin. Oswald deserves better.

And I’m upset thinking about Gabe. How is Gabe going to feel when he finds out his favorite person in the world is dead? He’s been Oswald’s rock since Season 1. There is no doubt in my mind that Gabe adores him and loves him. To hurt Gabe is a sin. Gabe deserves better.

[ivegotmytowel]

I know in the grand scheme of things it may seem minor, but another aspect I really, really didn’t appreciate about last night’s shitshow of a winter finale was how everyone kept dragging Oswald around. It was uncomfortable to see him stagger along on his bad leg as it was just another reminder of how his disability and the fact that he physically can’t fight back is used against him.

[just-an-enby-lemon]

I'm rewatching Gotham the TV show and it has potencial but becomes very shitty thanks to three major problems

1. It is a Batman prequel. They can't solve most of the problems nor really go all for it (letting some characthers stay dead, rediming some characters or doing anything of significative change) so to not impact the Batman lore.

- Possible solution: make it a otherword story. My sugestion: present it as a otherword story to the start, this is going to be very different. But them start normal, with small changes, maybe that criminal who would be a rogue just straigth up dies or Bruce meets Harley Quinzel on school and something it's just awalys of. Play with it. Go on with permanent changes to the point where the word really looks unique. Maybe the what if here it's that Thomas Wayne wasn't really a good person or that Jim Gordon will end up in a cape. Maybe Bruce having early connections with the criminal underground and being baby dective will twist something in him, maybe he will stat going for Jason "stop crime by controlling it" plan after all. The seeds are there. The audience doesn't know. But the uncanew valley of seeing charecthers you know well having a similar essence but learning and going into different paths is unsethling and the curiosity of what these are will catch the audience and if the changes create a logical path to a alternative Gotham where Bruce Wayne becames something different (and so did his rogues and allys, maybe even some changing positions) you won.

- Personal Opnion: DO NOT GIVE JOKER A BACKSTORY OR A SECRETY IDENTITY. Nothing against Jerome/Jeremiah fans butI truly think that having the Joker be just the Joker it's the best way to write him.

2. It's problematic. It's soo problematic.

Almost all woman in the show are plot devices, will suffer through the woman in refrigerator tropes and/or will be treated badly.

It fetishizes saphic relashionships and uses queerness as a proof of crazyness and/or evil (they literaly introduce the idea that Barbara hss a dark side by showing she had a previous relationship with a woman for god's sake). And while m|m relashionships are not fetishized they are always subtext and a proof of evil and/or crazyness or sometimes just a joke.

It's soo goddamed ableist. I swear the show it's unapologitically ableist. The jokes, the subtext, the main text. Everyone on the show was ableist at least once or was coded as neurodivergent as a way to prove they were a problem. The only exception being Baby Bruce Wayne, who did not make any offencive joke and was unitencionally coded as neurdivergent and treated well anyway.

I would add that more POC characthers in major roles would be great. They have a diverse cast but most of them are casted as evil and/or (even moro) on sidelines.

Solution: BE BETTER. It isn't even hard to rewrite the story in way where these problems aren't there anymore. Really it's embarassing.

3. Tries too hard to be a edgy version of The Animated Series. Sometimes it suceed in presenting a similar feeling: Bruce confronting Matches Malone and Firefly backstory episodes for example are unique storys but have that BTAS energy. But others like the Mr. Freeze arc sound way more close to the original text but also worse, you can see the references but not the feeling and it sucks cause Fries story it's one of the highlights of BTAS.

I don't even have sugestion to that. Because it's natural to be influencied by BTAS and honestly by the whole DCAU (except by Bruce and Barbara romance fuck that), I think take care while doing that?

[gothamsux]

i used to be super obsessed with gotham when i first made this blog and i used to rewatch the series all the time but i mean they really fucked us over on the finale now my ass has to wait a whole YEAR for the next one.. tbh i’ll probably forget about gotham until the new season then i will be BACK! on my bullshit.