Actually people should say “rubbish” more. And also “nonsense”, “gibberish”, and “balderdash” too.
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Actually people should say “rubbish” more. And also “nonsense”, “gibberish”, and “balderdash” too.
In reblogging this post about propaganda, this person writes:
This also applies to terms like "mythology" or "religion". I study myths for a living and. It impresses me how much people use words like "this is just a myth", to disqualify an opponent's argument, as if it belonged to an inferior mode of thinking, when they themselves use the same thing, use hypothesis that are beyond assessment or criticism, self-evident truths beyond repproach, you know, like a myth.
The point they're making here seems to be:
You think your worldview is based on truth.
Other worldviews seem like myths to you.
Your own beliefs are myths too.
This kind of relativism is built on a foundation of muddy semantics and half-digested postmodernism. It claims that everyone lives by unexamined assumptions and therefore nobody can claim the truth about anything.
This isn't just false, it's a profoundly terrible argument on multiple levels.
As I am fond of repeating:
Words Mean Things. Specific Things.
Myth can refer to:
A symbolic story (e.g., creation myths)
A false belief (e.g., the myth of multitasking)
An unexamined cultural assumption (Barthes)
These are not the same. Treating them as interchangeable is at best clueless, at worst dishonest.
The fact that randomnumbers751650 conflates these makes me doubt their claim to "study myths for a living."
They've also clearly never studied the philosophy or history of science, or they'd know that Scientific hypotheses ≠ myths
A scientific hypothesis is:
Falsifiable
Testable
Provisional and subject to revision from the moment it is proposed
Calling a hypothesis a myth requires ignorance of how both words are defined.
Propaganda ≠ myth ≠ science ≠ religion
Propaganda is deliberate mass persuasion.
Religion (in most cases) is faith-based belief or communal practice.
Science is a falsifiable method.
Myth is symbolic or cultural narrative.
These have different goals, standards, and truth claims. Treating them as the same turns any meaningful discussion into nonsensical gibberish.
What's happening in this argument's rhetoric?
It switches definitions of "myth" mid-sentence
It falsely flattens all truth claims into the same category
It avoids asking whether a belief is true
This perspective, if embraced, removes the tools needed to evaluate any belief at all.
Words mean things. Specific things.
Other important terms people should know.
Post-truth Relativism
Epistemology
Semantics
The great big uninformative book of ignorance, anecdotes, superstition and accounts of dubious veracity and questionable authenticity.
favorite word?
Petrichor. However, tomfoolery is a close second.
His title is HOGWASH. They are one of the few survivors of a TYPE I Ogre event after binding the sin, PIGSTY. Still a newbie though!
Pele and Kamapuaʻa
by Hawaiʻi Artist Dietrich Varez
Kamapua’a and Pele
In Hawaiian mythology, many gods and goddesses stood supreme over the exotic landscapes of the Hawaiian Island Chain. Kamapua'a was known as the Pig God. In the Hawaiian language, Kamapua'a translates roughly to "Pig Child". Born on the island of Oahu to human parents, Kamapua'a was an adventurous and often mischeivious character. Of his many powers, he possessed the ability to change his form from human to hog. Kamapua'a was worshipped only by commoners.
"The pig god was associated with Lono, the god of agriculture, and with farming and fertility. This was based on the perception that pigs root in the earth, like a farmer. The pig-god has the attributes of pigs: big, strong, gluttonous, bristly, noisy, agile, sharp-eyed; also a loner, a wanderer, a trespasser who could be aggressive and destructive; and sexually potent. Various episodes in his tradition depict him as struggling to become more human."
Hawaiian legends states that in his human form, Kamapua'a was very strong, attractive and charismatic. He could easily persuade the women of the local villages. The legends say that Kamapua'a traveled to Maui and Tahiti, exploring and causing mischief along the way. Finally, he returns to the Big Island, Hawaii. While on Hawaii island, Kamapua'a falls in love with Pele, the Hawaiian Goddess of Fire. Pele initially turns him away calling him the "child of a pig". With time, Kamapua'a finds his way into Pele's heart and they fall deeply in love.
It is said that their romance was short lived. Soon, their battles far outweighed their love for each other. Leading to a massive battle in which Kamapua'a tried to extinguish Pele’s flame. Eventually the two gods agree to split this island between them, Pele taking the regions of Puna, Ka'u and Kona (current location of Hawaii's lava fields), and Kamapua'a taking the districts of Kohala, Hamakua and Hilo where the moisture prevails. Even today, there are many formations around the islands that the Hawaiian people see as evidence of past battles between Kamapua'a and Pele.
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The Hawaiian Pig God, Kamapua'a In Hawaiian mythology, many gods and goddesses stood supreme over the exotic landscapes of the Hawaiian Isl