#illeism

[afterdarkafternight]

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[iconsumeheadcanons]

raphie's third person speech feature

i dont know enough psychology to speak on it past linguistics and lang development, but i think a lot about raph often using illeism(referencing himself in 3rd person-well raph didnt wanna hurt his brothers feelings) in his speech my theories are: yoshi may have started teaching him japanese (sometimes u refer to urself by name socially, typically kids do this) or used a lot of baby talk, and maybe raphs mutation age had him at a strange spot for language development that he kept saying his name in speech Ionger than typically developing english speakers "hello red, daddy wants u to do this"→"ok lil bro, raph wants u to do this"

AND bc he seems to hvae dissociative personalities (mind raph, the amnesic left alone raph(that i believe is a younger alter)) and has stress related to often being in charge of his bros, and probably trauma related to being left alone in the sewers (likely when they were alI Very Young), and he seems ro get into disagreements with his alters, so illeism might be both a subconscious personal separation (there is a bit of research on the benefits of this particular effect in moderation) from emotional events and a distinction bw alters

im tryna find any speech lang pathology research on this, but im curious what anyone else in the fandom may think!

[whatithinkaboutdarkshadows]

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[spongeykatana]

Illeism

Imagine you are given a device to speak to and completely control the actions of a complete stranger, the stranger is a real living person, and though they are unaware of you and cannot communicate back to you, you feel everything that they do.

What would you say to them? What choices would you make for them?

Now imagine that you are both the controller and the stranger

[veinflowers]

I just learned that some people use third person pronouns to address themselves and prefer it when others use those too to address them.

How do I go about trying that out? How to inform people around me that I want to do that in person too?

I think I want to try it out because it might help lessen my social anxiety and depression which usually revolves around social aspects of my life or things that happen to me that are confusing/make me think I'm going insane. So emotionally distancing myself from myself in language, I think, might help with that. And also, I heard it helps with decision making which I often have choice fatigue.

Does anyone on this site use third person pronouns to address themselves?

I heard it's called illeism.

Most people I know of who use this way of speaking are fellow Autistic people so I'm adding the neurodivergent and actually autistic tags to this post.

[sage-thee-herbmaster]

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[cyphorical]

Why speaking to yourself in the third person makes you wiser | Aeon Ideas

Wisdom and good decision making are within your power: just as soon as you start speaking of yourself in the third person

The benefits of the studied technique:

In a study by Igor Grossmann, participants who used "illeism" (referring to oneself in the third person) showed improvements in wise reasoning qualities like intellectual humility, perspective-taking, and finding compromise, compared to a control group.

Those using illeism were also more accurate in predicting their future emotional reactions, indicating better emotional regulation.

The benefits were seen after a 4-week daily diary intervention prompting illeism.

How one might use the technique themselves:

When facing a challenging situation, try silently referring to yourself in the third person, e.g. "David felt frustrated that..."

Keep a daily journal describing situations from a third-person perspective.

This can build wise reasoning skills over time. Use it particularly when making difficult decisions or during interpersonal conflicts to reduce bias and improve perspective-taking.

The more it is practiced, the more illeism can become a beneficial habit supporting wise reasoning and emotional regulation.

First person example: I'm absolutely fuming that my best friend since childhood cancelled our concert plans tonight with barely an explanation. We've had these tickets for months to see our favorite band that we've been obsessed with since middle school. She texted me an hour before we were supposed to leave saying she didn't feel like going anymore. I tried calling her to get a better reason but she wouldn't pick up her phone. Now I'm stuck having wasted money on an extra ticket and feeling like our decade-long friendship means nothing if she bails on me so easily.

Third person example: Ryan is absolutely fuming that his best friend since childhood cancelled their concert plans tonight with barely an explanation. They've had these tickets for months to see their favorite band that they've been obsessed with since middle school. She texted Ryan an hour before they were supposed to leave saying she didn't feel like going anymore. Ryan tried calling her to get a better reason but she wouldn't pick up her phone. Now Ryan is stuck having wasted money on an extra ticket and feeling like their decade-long friendship means nothing if she bails on him so easily.

[pentahobi]

illeism : (often linguistics) The practice of (excessively) referring to oneself in the third person.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/illeism